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ORIGINAL: barker
Scenatios cannot be created in Rising sun so a third of the software is non working

I'll double check the error this evening, anyone else have a moment to open the Rising Sun ORG editor?

The unit being flagged in your report should work, so puzzled why it isn't.

Jason Petho

DCG are another function that is not working correctly, OOB's need a bunch of work, mortar's and below need fixing for blowouts on armor, again the assault issues, incorrect bump files loading for graphic representation Help file is non helpful in that respect does not include a how to section for the main updates. OB planes non esistant in DCG's Fuel and Supply dumps non existant in DCG, all the wiz bangs are scenario specific not global Dynamic Campaigns.

I forward, nitpicking and hairsplitting to be an Olympic sport in 2012 in London, where I will be a spectator [;)]

ORIGINAL: barker
all the wiz bangs are scenario specific not global Dynamic Campaigns.

The "wiz bangs" were never intended for Dynamic Campaigns.

Jason Petho

Nice to know that now after the purchase...does not state that in the product description

ORIGINAL: barker

Nice to know that now after the purchase...does not state that in the product description

Does it need to?

If you want them in the Dynamic Campaigns, you can edit the Dynamic Campaign OOB's to include them.

Jason Petho

Product Data Sheet
 
 
[*]Complexity: Intermediate
[*]Field of Play: Tactical / Operational
[*]Historical Period: 20th Century Modern
[*]Theater: World War Two
[*]Unit Scale: Platoons to Companies
[*]Turn Play: Turn-Based IGOUGO
[*]Players: 1 - 8
[*]AI: Yes, either side
[*]TCP/IP: Yes
[*]PBEM: Yes
[*]Game Editor: Full editors for Scenario, Game Map, and Order of Battle creation and editing.
[*]Resolution: Supports Multiple Resolutions Min: 800x600
Manual: PDF(Download) & B&W Printed(Physical), 140 pages

Why should I have to edit it to include, it should be part of the product itself when playing.

ORIGINAL: barker
[*]Order of Battle creation and editing[/u][/i][/b].

Using the Org Editor.

Well done!

Jason Petho

ORIGINAL: barker

Why should I have to edit it to include, it should be part of the product itself when playing.

They are included in scenarios, as was their intention.

Jason Petho

Since you don't want the editing done on the weapons and platoons , I want the product to work, no tweaking on part. You are Tech Support so I want a Product Error Ticket Number for these problems. So I can track the progress. As a product it should have been golden as soon as I purchased it. Battleground was. The Civil Brand of this. Forge of Freedom was no problems. Korsun Pocket and Highy to the Reich no problems.

it says scale of units Platoons, and editing the OOB's I was to take it Platoons can be edited. They were, but then you took that out so I guess this is a bit of a nudge of truth...you can edit but not platoons even though the scale is Platoon, you can't touch them

ORIGINAL: barker

it says scale of units Platoons, and editing the OOB's I was to take it Platoons can be edited. They were, but then you took that out so I guess this is a bit of a nudge of truth...you can edit but not platoons even though the scale is Platoon, you can't touch them

Wrong

They were never able to edit in the Talonsoft editors.

You had to use a third party encryptor to do so.

Jason Petho

Furthermore, you can edit some elements of the platoon in the Editors.

Strength
Morale
Disruption
Fatigue

That has always been the case.

Jason Petho

ORIGINAL: barker

Product Data Sheet


[*]Complexity: Intermediate
[*]Field of Play: Tactical / Operational
[*]Historical Period: 20th Century Modern
[*]Theater: World War Two
[*]Unit Scale: Platoons to Companies
[*]Turn Play: Turn-Based IGOUGO
[*]Players: 1 - 8
[*]AI: Yes, either side
[*]TCP/IP: Yes
[*]PBEM: Yes
[*]Game Editor: Full editors for Scenario, Game Map, and Order of Battle creation and editing.
[*]Resolution: Supports Multiple Resolutions Min: 800x600
Manual: PDF(Download) & B&W Printed(Physical), 140 pages

As I read this, the unit scale is platoon. This has nothing to do with the editors.

The editors are for (1) scenario, (2) map, and (3) order of battle. As I read this, the order of battle editor allows you to put together an order of battle, which is precisely what the OOB editor does. This doesn't say the game provides a unit editor.

The "and editing" seems like surplusage. In any event, it doesn't say, "and unit editing." The way I read "and editing," it means that once you've created a scenario, a map, and an order of battle, you can go back and edit the scenario, map, and OOB files you created.

I am an idiot so I take things for how they read and not what the intention is. It say full editor, Platoons, so I am reading as Platoon editing....so there is no problem I need to fully edit the platoon editing true? As the product reads not what your opinion is. If there is opposite written instructions in a sealed box or download then what the product data sheet says isn't that a problem?

ORIGINAL: barker

I am an idiot so I take things for how they read and not what the intention is. It say full editor, Platoons, so I am reading as Platoon editing

Where does it say platoon editing in this line?

[*]Game Editor: Full editors for Scenario, Game Map, and Order of Battle creation and editing.

Jason Petho

Full editors for Scenario, Game Map, and Order of Battle creation and editing

ORIGINAL: barker

Full editors for Scenario, Game Map, and Order of Battle creation and editing

Order of Battle creation and editing.

Nothing about unit creation or platoon editing.

Apples and oranges.

Jason Petho

What is it you are wanting exactly? The thread started with a complaint that the support for JTSC will continue in 2010 after patch 1.04 (is that bad? ... no the game gets continued support, plus new titles), now we are at platoon level editing questions?

Please keep in mind that Jason and the Beta Brigade provide their time and support FREE. This kind of mindless whingeing could end up with them saying 'OK you go fix it' which I don't think is what we want.

Constructive criticism is fine but this level of complaint is silly and childish.