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RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:59 pm
by String
Apparently the strategic AI is even more retarded than the one on MTW2 ..[:o]
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:28 pm
by Phatguy
I have succumbed to the dark side...the box sits 2 feet from me, its evil emanating into my pores calling me with it's siren song
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:49 am
by sol_invictus
ORIGINAL: apathetic lurker
Another bad thing I noticed with steam and E:TW.....No manual, not even in pdf form..Or so many are complaining about..Granted, the manuals that
the Total War series put out werent great, but not including one with a DL? Boggles the mind.....Oh yeah, some complaints about servers being busy and therefore not being able to play....Maybe time for me to get and play a non-steam driven game.
I like the concept of Steam, but somehow the execution is lacking, especially with the "big" releases.. It seems to handle small games fine. Maybe i'll try it out on one of those bargain games first before spending 50 at gamestop and letting Steam control my fun.
EDIT: The no manual part is only for the direct download from Steam, not the boxed version.
Well the actual manual is rather weak anyway. This is without a doubt the thinest TW manual ever.
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:26 am
by Phatguy
ORIGINAL: Arinvald
ORIGINAL: apathetic lurker
Another bad thing I noticed with steam and E:TW.....No manual, not even in pdf form..Or so many are complaining about..Granted, the manuals that
the Total War series put out werent great, but not including one with a DL? Boggles the mind.....Oh yeah, some complaints about servers being busy and therefore not being able to play....Maybe time for me to get and play a non-steam driven game.
I like the concept of Steam, but somehow the execution is lacking, especially with the "big" releases.. It seems to handle small games fine. Maybe i'll try it out on one of those bargain games first before spending 50 at gamestop and letting Steam control my fun.
EDIT: The no manual part is only for the direct download from Steam, not the boxed version.
Well the actual manual is rather weak anyway. This is without a doubt the thinest TW manual ever.
True, but thats not an excuse....There are probably quite a few new players getting lost and the manual gives you some minor help... The manual showed up on steams' site but too litle too late.
Steam also installed the game in one location.Would not give me an option to install on my "game" drive but only on the c drive..Maybe I am missing something.... Saved game is there, but I found it by searching ALL folders and for some reason found it in a hidden folder..Now I am sure thats a bug or I inenvertantly hit something..I just cant picture CA doing something so idiotic as hide the save game files deep in your system..
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:49 am
by sol_invictus
Yeah, I haven't even attempted to install yet. I am bracing for the inevitable stress in about an hour. From the sounds of things, SEGA/CA really screwed the pooch with this rediculous Steam activation and the messed up file locations that resulted. People can't even find save files or files needed to mod. I gues this is the brave new gaming world that we must face.[:@]
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:54 pm
by Phatguy
Next time i'm contemplating buying a game with steam activation required is the day I walk in front of a bus....less painfull
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:55 pm
by Zakhal
Huh? I have used steam for over 4 years and never had problems..well except the new euro prices.
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:33 pm
by Terminus
I just installed it this afternoon. Took all of 15 minutes, including activation, and it performed flawlessly. No worries here.
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:37 pm
by Phatguy
Well, I am happy that some have had no serious problems..Mine installed fine but for some connection issues originally but I really dont like the fact that I cant install wherever I like, the original steam DL had no manual whatsoever. Reading the forums over there I notice a lot of people having no issues and a lot having issues with Steam. Seems the huge game releases get nerfed over on Steam. And really, how do you justify having Steam tell me that a bunch of different anti-virus software is not really compatible with it. Yes I can run ETW fine but I do need to close Ad-aware,Avast and Webroot and Xfire...otherwise its a 50-50 shot of running the game..Not good these days..I know a friend has one of the other ones that are on Steam's list but his game works fine...So maybe its my system but doubtful..
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:45 pm
by Zakhal
I have used multiple anti-virus with steam including avast without any problems. I havent used ad-aware, webroot or xfire though.
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:52 pm
by Phatguy
Well, I havent tested each one seperatley but I know if I close all of them, ETW runs, if I dont close em its a roll of the dice
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:55 pm
by Terminus
Well, I'd have to say that I'd never buy games on Steam itself. I bought both DoW 2 and ETW in box copies, so I only had to do the activation thing. So that's the caveat for my positive experience.
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:35 pm
by LarryP
ORIGINAL: apathetic lurker
Well, I am happy that some have had no serious problems..Mine installed fine but for some connection issues originally but I really dont like the fact that I cant install wherever I like, the original steam DL had no manual whatsoever. Reading the forums over there I notice a lot of people having no issues and a lot having issues with Steam. Seems the huge game releases get nerfed over on Steam. And really, how do you justify having Steam tell me that a bunch of different anti-virus software is not really compatible with it. Yes I can run ETW fine but I do need to close Ad-aware,Avast and Webroot and Xfire...otherwise its a 50-50 shot of running the game..Not good these days..I know a friend has one of the other ones that are on Steam's list but his game works fine...So maybe its my system but doubtful..
Well, I wasn't going to post this but after reading so much about Steam here, I had to. Check this out:
Downloading Games
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:20 pm
by Speedysteve
RIDICULOUS,
It says Steam is going to take an ETA of 13 hours to finish updating before I can play ETW....WTF?!? So far been sitting here for an hour[:@]
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:47 pm
by Speedysteve
Brilliant. Restarted and now just the grand total of 5 hours + to update[8|][:@]

RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:57 pm
by Arctic Blast
ORIGINAL: Speedy
RIDICULOUS,
It says Steam is going to take an ETA of 13 hours to finish updating before I can play ETW....WTF?!? So far been sitting here for an hour[:@]
I read a number of issues people with physical game copies were having that sounded a lot like this...even though you have a disc in the drive, it still tries to install the downloaded version. If you stop it, and then open and close your optical drive again, it apparently wakes it up to the fact there's an actual DISC in the drive.
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:05 pm
by Terminus
I hate to harp on about it, but mine worked first time, and took about 8 minutes to do the update. Weird...[&:]
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:26 pm
by Speedysteve
I am seriously very miffed at this. Down to 4 hours + now....Sorry Arctic Blast your suggestion had little effect. POS that this is

RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:46 am
by Grell
Has anybody in Canada got this game yet?
Regards,
Grell
RE: Empire Total War
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:49 am
by Lützow
I got both titles and while Empire offers easy accessability and a tidy interface, CoG:EE provides more depth for 'thinking gamers'. However, Steam is a PITA. Couldn't start Empire in the morning as my inet access was out of order.