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RE: PBEM
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:27 pm
by coregames
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
There is code to convert territories to minor countries. I have looked at it in passing though I have not validated it. I am not sure how you conquer one if these things, since they do not have a capital or factory. Perhaps that is in the code too.
That sounds right... they become like countries... and then you have to capture every port to conquer them. Or, if they have no ports, control every hex is the rule I believe
RE: PBEM
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:15 am
by Shannon V. OKeets
Page 1 of 2.
Here is what SO4 looks like. I still need to enable placing the units on the insert map - and then recording those placements as Standing Orders.
The left side shows Germany entering where they want their reserve units placed in the second impulse of the first turn.
The right side shows where the Axis wants the Finnish units placed if the Allies decalre war on that minor country.
RE: PBEM
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:17 am
by Shannon V. OKeets
2nd and last in series.
Note that the Axis and Allies will have separate standing orders for Turkey. [The unit data panel is a lingering effect of having looked at the Finns previously.]
RE: PBEM
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:54 am
by Froonp
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
The right side shows where the Axis wants the Finnish units placed if the Allies decalre war on that minor country.
For Finland, these are the units available for a given year.
Is it possible to see units from year +1 or +2, so that they are set up too, so that if the standing order is used in year+1 or year +2 then the new units are ready too.
Or will the player have to revise their standing orders when they know that there are new units ? Which is acceptable too.
RE: PBEM
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:18 pm
by BallyJ
As a WIF adict for soooo long I can't wait. roll on christmas release.
Good work Steve
RE: PBEM
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:46 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: Froonp
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
The right side shows where the Axis wants the Finnish units placed if the Allies decalre war on that minor country.
For Finland, these are the units available for a given year.
Is it possible to see units from year +1 or +2, so that they are set up too, so that if the standing order is used in year+1 or year +2 then the new units are ready too.
Or will the player have to revise their standing orders when they know that there are new units ? Which is acceptable too.
I thought about it. I decided that players could/should update their SOs at the beginning of a new year (at least). I'll add a prompt listing the minor countries that have additional units available at that time.
RE: PBEM
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:53 pm
by peskpesk
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
2nd and last in series.
Note that the Axis and Allies will have separate standing orders for Turkey. [The unit data panel is a lingering effect of having looked at the Finns previously.]
Will it be possible to have a choice to use the AIO script setup as an option? Ex I let the AIO handle Norway for me when it’s declared war on but I like Netherlands to use my special predefined defence?
RE: PBEM
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:00 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: peskpesk
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
2nd and last in series.
Note that the Axis and Allies will have separate standing orders for Turkey. [The unit data panel is a lingering effect of having looked at the Finns previously.]
Will it be possible to have a choice to use the AIO script setup as an option? Ex I let the AIO handle Norway for me when it’s declared war on but I like Netherlands to use my special predefined defence?
No.
I remain resolute that the players should play the game and not have the AI makes decisions for them. In that case it would be an AI Assistant. The most I am willing to do is let the players set up their Standing Orders and then have the AIA execute them.
When we get to the later Standing Orders (SO 5+) the players will be able to work with a stripped down version of LAIO (Language for AI Opponent) to control the decision making process. But I do not intend for players to be able to simply say "let the AI decide for me".
RE: PBEM
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:52 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: peskpesk
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
2nd and last in series.
Note that the Axis and Allies will have separate standing orders for Turkey. [The unit data panel is a lingering effect of having looked at the Finns previously.]
Will it be possible to have a choice to use the AIO script setup as an option? Ex I let the AIO handle Norway for me when it’s declared war on but I like Netherlands to use my special predefined defence?
No.
I remain resolute that the players should play the game and not have the AI makes decisions for them. In that case it would be an AI Assistant. The most I am willing to do is let the players set up their Standing Orders and then have the AIA execute them.
When we get to the later Standing Orders (SO 5+) the players will be able to work with a stripped down version of LAIO (Language for AI Opponent) to control the decision making process.
But I do not intend for players to be able to simply say "let the AI decide for me".
Warspite1
Good!
RE: PBEM
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:29 am
by sajbalk
Regarding the German reserves, is there not 5-3 Slovak Militia in the froce pool? It is part of the Politics in Flames counter set, I think.
RE: PBEM
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:57 pm
by Froonp
ORIGINAL: sajbalk
Regarding the German reserves, is there not 5-3 Slovak Militia in the froce pool? It is part of the Politics in Flames counter set, I think.
This is because the I Slovak is now considered a city based volunteer linked to Bratislava.
RAW 22.4.8 :
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The Slovak MIL is a city based volunteer based in Bratislava.
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RE: PBEM
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:37 pm
by micheljq
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
Page 1 of 2.
The right side shows where the Axis wants the Finnish units placed if the Allies decalre war on that minor country.
Hi Shannon,
Can you be more specific on this, do you mean that in each game we have to prepare the setup of each minor country for when or in case they will be attacked by the opposing faction?
Thanks,
RE: PBEM
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:26 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: micheljq
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
Page 1 of 2.
The right side shows where the Axis wants the Finnish units placed if the Allies decalre war on that minor country.
Hi Shannon,
Can you be more specific on this, do you mean that in each game we have to prepare the setup of each minor country for when or in case they will be attacked by the opposing faction?
Thanks,
Yes.
I expect there to be default placements available, so the task is to edit them to suit your preferences.
Once I make some more progress on this form, I'll post what it should look like (i.e., with all the units on the map).
EDIT: I have added two more buttons to the form: Save and Restore SO 4. Those will let you effortless restore any deployments you have saved from previous games.
RE: PBEM
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:18 pm
by Mike Parker
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
EDIT: I have added two more buttons to the form: Save and Restore SO 4. Those will let you effortless restore any deployments you have saved from previous games.
YAY!
RE: PBEM
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:59 pm
by Taxman66
My only problem with this is that the set up for some minors (say Iraq) might be drastically different based on which country on the opposing side actually decalred war.
RE: PBEM
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:09 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: Taxman66
My only problem with this is that the set up for some minors (say Iraq) might be drastically different based on which country on the opposing side actually decalred war.
Interesting point.
I am not sure building a system for conditional setups for minor countries is warranted by this though.
RE: PBEM
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:22 pm
by Taxman66
I hate to say it, but I would prefer a seperate email for setting up minors.
Iraq is certainly not the only country this would apply to. The only other option is players changing set ups for minors on a nearly turn by turn basis. Frex: Do the allies prep. Greece and Yugo based on a possible Italian attack or a German one (or both)? What about the Spain? Is it preped for a GE Vichy France collapse/attack or is it prepared for an Italian invasion? You could loose an awful lot of ground if it is set up wrong. There are lots of others... Netherlands vs. Germany or Japan?
I really think this is too important to leave to standing orders. I believe you could get away with just one extra email for all minors being set up (per impulse)...
RE: PBEM
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:28 pm
by coregames
ORIGINAL: Taxman66
I hate to say it, but I would prefer a seperate email for setting up minors.
Iraq is certainly not the only country this would apply to. The only other option is players changing set ups for minors on a nearly turn by turn basis. Frex: Do the allies prep. Greece and Yugo based on a possible Italian attack or a German one (or both)? What about the Spain? Is it preped for a GE Vichy France collapse/attack or is it prepared for an Italian invasion? You could loose an awful lot of ground if it is set up wrong. There are lots of others... Netherlands vs. Germany or Japan?
I really think this is too important to leave to standing orders. I believe you could get away with just one extra email for all minors being set up (per impulse)...
I agree with this. It's rare that the maneuvers made in preparation for a DoW on a minor won't have some impact on the setup, so might as well have an email specifically dedicated to it, since more often than not the standing orders for setup will need to be mofified if they are to defend properly.
RE: PBEM
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:06 pm
by BallyJ
ORIGINAL: Taxman66
I hate to say it, but I would prefer a seperate email for setting up minors.
Iraq is certainly not the only country this would apply to. The only other option is players changing set ups for minors on a nearly turn by turn basis. Frex: Do the allies prep. Greece and Yugo based on a possible Italian attack or a German one (or both)? What about the Spain? Is it preped for a GE Vichy France collapse/attack or is it prepared for an Italian invasion? You could loose an awful lot of ground if it is set up wrong. There are lots of others... Netherlands vs. Germany or Japan?
I really think this is too important to leave to standing orders. I believe you could get away with just one extra email for all minors being set up (per impulse)...
Me to. Minor set up could make or break some countries. Particularly Spain. But also many others.
For the rest of the project keep up the good work.Can't come soon enough. Love the AAR's
RE: PBEM
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:43 pm
by Gurggulk
If i use the Standing Orders for minor setups in the 1st turn of the game. Do every single nation in the world. Its seems to me i can change my Standing Orders for say any nation at any time before war is declared. there is no Fog of War, the player knows where everything is.
Its up to the player to decide if his SO's are up to date depending on the global situation. This is PBEM we are talking about, time is not an issue.
I don't see a problem. The SO's are not written in virtual stone, are they?