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RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:30 pm
by Titanwarrior89
I want one.....Wodin you would love it here today.....Wet and rainy......[:)] Good gaming and sleeping weather.
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:34 pm
by wodin
All the offers sound amazing...and I ain't messing either...shame none of you are some big shot company director who can give me a job...well I'm guessing your not one anyway..
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:40 pm
by parusski
ORIGINAL: wodin
All the offers sound amazing...and I ain't messing either...shame none of you are some big shot company director who can give me a job...well I'm guessing your not one anyway..
I am a big shot. Only problem is no one at my company realizes it.
AND I AM UNANIMOUS IN THAT!
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:46 pm
by SLAAKMAN
Brother Wodin keep us informed. My daughter is 15 now and would love another sister to "hang out". I would also like another vict..ahem...er opponent to game with. You might be in luck about a job. And I dont mean just a hand job. My company might just be the recipient of a multi-million Euro contract in May. Fingers crossed.[:D]
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:38 pm
by wodin
Slaakman keep me informed...sounds interesting...
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:31 pm
by Rosseau
I know you know what you're doing, but be careful brother. My uncle-in-law (not a good guy) was cleaning his weapon and his 3-year-old daughter somehow pulled the trigger and blew his brains out.
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:32 pm
by freeboy
I was not shocked, and actually quite pleased that my brothers here are all about the defense of home and family...
My new wife and I while away came back to your tiny appt in Suburban Massachussets years ago to find the easy to hock.. tv, steroe etc gone.. not the heavy custom speakers.. really??? my company made, nore our expensive china... but something they could get high quick with...
I was both relieved, and pissed... odd.
After a nearby drug shooting, and this break in we decided our quite inner city home was, well not quite enough. We moved to the burbs, then to Colorado.
I started typing totally committed to saying that even better than leathel weopons is a good and loud dog... especially when you are not around!!! My parents old Pyrennes could bark so loudly it could be heard when outside almost a mile away! He would startle at night an bark.. even from inside he would awaken our next door friends. cough, who bitterly complained ...
Aside from a dog who barks... a well lit area also adds "discomfort " to would be thieves. And of course there
COo-Bambi... the ;loud and unmistacable sound of smith or westein or berretta or.. well you get my point...
We live in evil times where children are brutally killed, and women are not too safe in our cities. I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked.. but have no tollerence for the weakness that allows evil men or women to remain free or housed in luxery awaiting punishment..
Hanging .. cheap safe and soon to be legal if I become dictator of the west...
now that is a joke for those who do not know me...
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:02 am
by Perturabo
But can you trust the government to decide about killing people who aren't an immediate danger? I had a lot to do with courts and I wouldn't. Life time sentence without ability to get out for good behaviour is enough to stop them and you can actually let out a person if it turns out that he/she was wrongly sentenced.
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:16 am
by Jeffrey H.
ORIGINAL: HintJ
I usually go to bed pretty early, and I often sleep for five hours and wake up, then I try to fall back asleep for a couple of more hours before I get out of bed. Last night was typical, except that after I awoke after my first five hours of sleep or so, I was laying in bed having difficulty falling back asleep, and then I heard a very load noise coming from my basement, as if a pile of stuff had been knocked over. I was not half-awake, the noise I heard was very distinct and quite loud.
Someone had knocked something over by accident in my basement! I was convinced it must be a thief!
I needed to investigate, but I wasn't about to go down to my basement and face a thief bare-handed, so I needed a weapon. I used to keep a rifle in my house, and I wished I still had it, but a cumbersome 30-30 lever-action rifle isn't exactly a good home defense weapon. Still, I wished that I had it.
I went and grabbed a kitchen knife. I opened to door to the stairway down to the basement and clicked the light on.
Looking down the stairway, I got this strange sensation. Long ago I used to feel this way whenever I drove delivery trucks into ghetto Philadelphia or Hunts Point in Bronx. Yeah, like I was entering a very bad situation. Also, since I turned the stairway light on, the thief will be surely hiding, see me first, and do everything he can to stop me. Alternatively, I could just yell down the stairs that "I'm calling the Cops!" and then set up my own ambush at the top of the stairs and hope he runs away empty-handed.
Here's where it gets amusing:
I thought, "What the hell is wrong with me? I play crazy games where I tell my pixel troops to do things ten times scarier and I get upset when they show reluctance!" Wow, what a hypocrite I am! No, I'm not calling the Cops first, I'm going into that basement and stab a man to death if necessary! Seriously.
Well, I went down there and apparently the thief was long gone. I searched the basement in great detail, being sure to not turn on any more lights! I thought of the game "Oblivion" when I was looking for him and fearing a surprise zombie attack--I was genuinely afraid.
Apparently, quickly after he made his loud noise he ran away, but I didn't know that at the time. My side basement door was not completely closed, and the lock was half-turned. I know a similar trick to break in though that door when I lock myself out/
I don't know what my point is here, but I would never ask an employee or subordinant to do anything I'm not willing to do. I guess I feel a little guilt playing some of these crazy wargames...
Funny story and I'm glad to hear you are not harmed or in any other sort of trouble. I've had similar times in my life when I thought I had to do something about an intruder, luckily for me it's always been something other than that. But I've never related anything to games while going through them, that's a new twist.
For me it was waking up to the sound if smashing glass and getting out of bed, grabbing the shot gun, grabbing a flashlight and slowly going along, room by room, trying to figure out what happened. This scene has repeated itself many times over the years but nothing has ever really happened. It's terrifying though and it really does take some courage to deal with it and be ready for anything, at least that's the way I feel about it.
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:28 pm
by Vincenzo_Beretta
Why not a taser as home defense weapon, instead of risking lives and limbs with tactical nuclear weapons? Just asking.
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:34 pm
by parusski
ORIGINAL: Vincenzo Beretta
Why not a taser as home defense weapon, instead of risking lives and limbs with tactical nuclear weapons? Just asking.
'Cause nukes settle the matter in a definite way, the girlie taser just might not stop someone who gives up their 'right' to life when they enter one's home.
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:07 pm
by parusski
OOOOHH. Another story today about why citizens should be armed. Young punks attack a 65 year old man...
Man, 65, kills teen who knocks him off bicycle
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:49 pm
by vonRocko
ORIGINAL: Vincenzo Beretta
Why not a taser as home defense weapon, instead of risking lives and limbs with tactical nuclear weapons? Just asking.
Heck, even on the TV show "Cops" I've seen tasers not stop people.
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:05 pm
by vonRocko
How much do you want to bet that we hear how it is not poor little johnie the thugs fault, his mom and dad let him down, and that mean old man never should have been riding the bike!
I'm not far from Reading Pa. I've watched that town go down the toilet for years.
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:20 pm
by parusski
ORIGINAL: vonRocko
How much do you want to bet that we hear how it is not poor little johnie the thugs fault, his mom and dad let him down, and that mean old man never should have been riding the bike!
I'm not far from Reading Pa. I've watched that town go down the toilet for years.
Yeah, I am waiting to hear how "great" little Johnnie is. I have a feeling he was actually trying to prop up the poor old man, who was unbalanced, drunk and screaming at the young angels.[8|]
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:07 pm
by Jeffrey H.
ORIGINAL: Vincenzo Beretta
Why not a taser as home defense weapon, instead of risking lives and limbs with tactical nuclear weapons? Just asking.
Both maybe but not a tazer by itself, not for the home. Tazer could make sense in some ways, but for when it really needs to stop someone, no thanks.
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:09 pm
by Jeffrey H.
I read about a dozen of these stories every month in the NRA publication, "The American Rifleman". You can read them here online:
http://www.nraila.org/armedcitizen/
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:49 pm
by 2ndACR
Taser for home defense? I would never recommend that. When a criminal makes the choice to break into a house that is probably occupied, the only thing to trust then is a gun for defense. Like I stated earlier, if a criminal is willing to risk his life robbing me, I am willing to oblige him by taking said life.
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:05 pm
by freeboy
seriously... tazer? lol
I do not think so myself
RE: Fear, hypocracy, and wargames.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:52 pm
by Gunhawk
I wouldn't use a Tazer or any other weapon that can't be used from a distance when I can more easily reach out and touch someone with a Govt. model 1911 .45. However, people that are going to use a firearm ought to spend a *lot* of time practicing with it. Some friendly competiton in the International Defensive Pistol Association would help a lot to build up confidence as well. I've been a member for several years and i've found that what I *thought* that I could do under pressure wasn't really up to par, so I kept on practicing and now i'm satisfied that I can handle myself in any home defense situation.
And if you own a gun. Join the NRA.