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Posted: **Thu May 03, 2012 8:39 pm**

Doh! I got so excited seeing you do something with Allied carriers in Dec 41 that I missed that part. [:D]

Posted: **Thu May 03, 2012 8:45 pm**

I forgot to mention that 2 Marine fighter, a Marine SBD, and a Bolo loaded fast xAKs at San Fran. Tomorrow, they will leave with the faster TK/AOs for Australia with good escorts. Need both over there for prolonged operations. Both Lex and Big "E" need a full Marine fighter group placed on board.

Posted: **Thu May 03, 2012 11:50 pm**

What will the Marine fighters replace on the carriers?

Posted: **Fri May 04, 2012 12:36 am**

Nothing Mike. The 18 plane Marine fighters will bring the CVs fighter strength up to 45 in January. The organic American CV Navy fighter strength starts off at 21 in Reluctant Admiral, but increases to 27 with a re-sizing in 1/42. Add in 36 DB (Dauntless) and 15 TB (Devastators) to fill out my 90 capacity CVs.

27 Navy fighters (upgrade to F4F-4s)
36 SBD Dauntless DBs
15 Devastators TBs (upgrade to Avengers)
18 Marine fighters (usually fill out with F4F-3s)
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96 planes total

If you figure the 5 American CVs have this, then KB can be attacked with some degree of success in May/June 42 IF opportunity presents itself. Before the July 1st re-sizing for Japanese CVs air groups AND if the Japanese players does not re-organize his CV air groups beforehand. Like add more Zeros and take off some Vals to get close to or slightly over max capacity. Most should be upgraded to the F4F-4 and the Avenger should be out. Add in a few British CVs and facing KB is not as daunting as it would seem. It would have to be away from Japan's Nell/Betty menace for me to engage, but it can be done. 225 fighters from the Americans is a good number to fight with vs 135 without the Marines on board.

In your Scenario 1 game as Japan, KB has 18 Zeros per CV until July 1st. That's only 108 Zeros vs my 225. I'll take those odds!![:D] I would take off at least one Val group for another Zero group of 27 or 36 Zeros. I usually add in CVL Ryujo with her 36 Zeros to increase all around survivability.

IMO, it should be SOP for the Allies to place the Marine fighters on each CV ASAP.

Posted: **Fri May 04, 2012 7:45 am**

Interesting Michael. I never realized the US CVs had a capacity of 90. Add 15% and you can put 103 on each on if needed. Wow!

Posted: **Fri May 04, 2012 8:37 am**

Can you do that on all of the US CVs? I thought only the Sara and Lex had that kind of capacity.

Another question on this issue is about over-filling CVs. If they go into the red is there any drop-off in performance or getting planes into the air quickly for CAP and strikes?

Posted: **Fri May 04, 2012 8:45 am**

ORIGINAL: obvert

Can you do that on all of the US CVs? I thought only the Sara and Lex had that kind of capacity.

Another question on this issue is about over-filling CVs. If they go into the red is there any drop-off in performance or getting planes into the air quickly for CAP and strikes?

The Yorktown class have 90 capacity as well. They all just start with undersized fighter squadrons. It's a pretty standard tactic amongst experienced players to supplement with Marine fighters until the carrier fighter squadrons resize to 36.

It takes about 3 months for the Marine squadrons to become carreir trained, but even as carrier capable the ops losses are not significant.

The plan is to only let their capacity go into the "orange" not red. And I have seen no discernable drop off in performance in the orange.

Posted: **Fri May 04, 2012 9:32 am**

If a heavy CV, regardless of which side, can have up to 5 air groups on board and stay below 115% capacity, they will still conduct air ops (IF this is wrong somebody correct me!). All the American CVs except Wasp and the Midway Class have a capacity of 90. Each carrier capable/trained air group has one re-size available after a mandatory re-sizing that happens to both sides with most scenarios/mods July '42.

In Scenario 1 and 2 as Japan, you have lots of extra capacity available. You can take off your Vals, but is that the best option??

Scenario 1 & 2
Akagi - 81 - 18Z, 18V, 27K = 63 (18 extra) transfer in a 24 or 27 plane Zero or 18 Vals from Hiryu
Kaga - 71 - 18Z, 18V, 27K = 72
Hiryu - 71 - 18Z, 18V, 18K = 54 (17 extra) 18 Vals to Akagi and add another 36 Zeros
Soryu - 63 - 18Z, 18V, 18K = 54 (9 extra) not much room here
Shokaku - 72 - 18Z, 27V, 27K = 72
Zuikaku - 72 - 18Z, 27V, 27K = 72
Ryujo - 48 - 12Z, 12K = 24 (24 extra) re-size Zero to 36

For me, the Vals from Hiryu go to Akagi and a 36 plane Zero group goes to Hiryu. Maybe a small 9 plane Zero to Soryu. I now have over 180 Zeros with KB vs 108 (no changes and no Ryujo).
Note - I have a game as Japan ongoing. [;)]

Reluctant Admiral
Akagi - 75 - 21Z, 27V, 27K = 75
Kaga - 81 - 27Z, 27V, 28K = 81
Hiryu - 69 - 21Z, 24V, 24K = 69
Soryu - 63 - 21Z, 21V, 21K = 63
Shokaku - 72 - 24Z, 24V, 24K = 72
Zuikaku - 72 - 24Z, 24V, 24K = 72
Ryujo - 48 - 30Z, 18K = 48

In my game, you have 168 Zeros with Ryujo and 138 without.

I've been playing WITP/AE for 7 years. Initially, I was of the mindset to keep the American CVs away from KB until '43 or later. It has evolved somewhat to where I will be a little more aggressive once I get those extra Marine fighters on board and some training done.

Posted: **Fri May 04, 2012 1:57 pm**

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: obvert

Can you do that on all of the US CVs? I thought only the Sara and Lex had that kind of capacity.

Another question on this issue is about over-filling CVs. If they go into the red is there any drop-off in performance or getting planes into the air quickly for CAP and strikes?

The Yorktown class have 90 capacity as well. They all just start with undersized fighter squadrons. It's a pretty standard tactic amongst experienced players to supplement with Marine fighters until the carrier fighter squadrons resize to 36.

It takes about 3 months for the Marine squadrons to become carreir trained, but even as carrier capable the ops losses are not significant.

The plan is to only let their capacity go into the "orange" not red. And I have seen no discernable drop off in performance in the orange.

Good to know. I need to play the Allies again to remember what they can do.

Also, great to hear that the orange level won't hurt ops. I'll feel comfortable stacking extra planes in groups now. All groups I have are sized to the max, so at least I got that far.

Posted: **Fri May 04, 2012 10:33 pm**

Agree with ny59giants!

cheers

Rob

Posted: **Sat May 05, 2012 1:27 pm**

Dec 16th (Part 1): Des reported being surprised at Rabaul. I think he was expecting to see Lexington only there, not Enterprise joining her. Force Z ran over RO-64 at Deboyne Island and is now 6 hexes from Rabaul (Des reported knowing she is there now [:(]). My 2 CVs hit a lot of shipping.

Now what?!?
1) Force Z to go in to hit any shipping left there to unload. I have ordered her to "Remain on Station."
2) Break off a SC TF from my 2 CV TF as I have 8 CAs and 18 DDs. Would it be better to form 1 or 2 SC TF?? If so, what are the number of CAs and DDs in each TF?? Where to place them??
3) Both CVs will move 1 or 2 hexes west to cover the SC TF and hit shipping. CAP will be 60 or 70% as I expect some attempts with Nell/Betty out of Truk with extended range Zeros escorts.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Rabaul at 106,125

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
F2A-3 Buffalo x 11
F4F-3A Wildcat x 11
F4F-3 Wildcat x 4
SBD-2 Dauntless x 52
SBD-3 Dauntless x 17
TBD-1 Devastator x 27

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa, Bomb hits 1, on fire Shows up on sunk list??
xAKL Konsan Maru, on fire
xAK Yae Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Katsuragisan Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
xAKL Daitei Maru, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
PB Takuna Maru #6, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
CL Abukuma, Bomb hits 1
xAP Tango Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Kazan Maru
DD Kikuzuki
xAKL Genmei Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Hokuzyu Maru
PB Takunan Maru #2, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
CA Kako, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Daijukyo Maru
xAK Hokkai Maru
xAKL Amakasu Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Hakata Maru #2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CA Furutaka, Bomb hits 3

Japanese ground losses:
1206 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 24 destroyed, 45 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
12 x TBD-1 Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
5 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
15 x TBD-1 Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
10 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
5 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
1 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Katsuragisan Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Daitei Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAP Tango Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Genmei Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Amakasu Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Yae Maru

Posted: **Sat May 05, 2012 1:34 pm**

Each carrier capable/trained air group has one re-size available after a mandatory re-sizing that happens to both sides with most scenarios/mods July '42.

Are you sure it is only one resize?
I have gourps resized and once back on a carrier, I can resize them again!

Posted: **Sat May 05, 2012 1:56 pm**

I'm positive on the one re-sizing as I have done them before. There may be more available, but have not done so to know if there is either a finite or infinite number of times you can re-size.

Does anyone have the answer to this??

Posted: **Sat May 05, 2012 10:15 pm**

Dec 16th (part 2): Malaya and China are quiet on the ground still....

Key: c = casualties; b = airbase hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits, ()= number planes destroyed

Subs:
RO-64 is run over by Force Z at Deboyne Island off the southern tip of New guinea. I guess Des knows where this powerful force is now. Rats!
I-172 takes a shot at Saratoga's escorts as they leave Pearl.

Malaya: [>:]

Burma:
Rangoon - 12 Oscars escort in 29 Sally [11b, 2s, 23r] The Buffalo are over LRCAP the transports with a brigade off Port Blair.

China:
Changsha - More attacks on the AF by 19 Lily, 30 Sally, 20 Sally, and then 21 Lily. Damage is now 0-36-46

Philippines:
Lingayen -86th PS Coastal Artillery Battalion is targeted by 13 Sonia
Manila - 40 Zero escort in 40(1) Betty to find 9(2) P-40 Warhawk on CAP. They score well as 9b, 17s, 59r!! The number of supply hits is a concern. [:(]

Rabaul:
My 6" CD guns continue to get hits on the small xAKLs trying to unload troops from 2 different TFs. [:)]

Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4491 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 144

Defending force 1931 troops, 30 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 40

Japanese adjusted assault: 31

Allied adjusted defense: 21

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0) [:)]

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
99 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
121 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
144th Infantry Regiment
III/66th Naval Guard Unit
II/66th Naval Guard Unit
1st JNAF Coy

Defending units:
Lark Battalion
Rabaul Coastal Gun Battalion
Rabaul Det. Base Force

CVs:
KB @ 154,119 (13 NW Johnson Island) - she moved the normal 9 hexes this turn. Des tells me they are done refueling.
Mini-KB @ 74,103 (6 NE Kendari) - Looks like a raid and possible support of landing at Kendari as transport are above Ternate.

Saratoga (12 South Pearl)
Lexington and Enterprise - see above posting

Notes:
TF 139 leaves San Fran with 2 Marine fighters, 1 Marine SBD, 1 Bolo, 22k supply, and 200k fuel bound for Australia. 6x T2-SE-A Class TKs, 2x Esso Type -T Class TKs, 9x Federal Type E Class TKs, 3 DDs, PG, 2 AMC, AVD, AVP.
2 SC TFs were formed (2 CAs, 3 DDs each) to try to get a shot at any fleeing ships from Rabaul for Truk. In his shoes, I would set them for Full Speed and try to get as close to Truk as I could. Lex and E move three hexes closer. Force Z will run into Rabaul and stay there.
Pearl - one more day and the base will be fully repaired. DD Monaghan [79-94(72)-57)15)-88] has been fighting fires for days now. The fires have never gone below 50, but I refuse to scuttle her.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 2:03 pm**

Dec 17th: Allies come up empty near Rabaul, KB is no longer spotted, Singapore swept for first time
Key - c = casualties, b = airbase hits, s = supply hits, r = runway hits

Subs:

At Sea:
Things are not going my way when the first combat of the day is this....

Night Time Surface Combat, near Saidor at 100,122, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
CL Abukuma
CL Kiso
DD Hamakaze
DD Tanikaze
DD Oboro
DD Akebono
DD Sazanami

Allied Ships
AO Trinity
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...

The warships I had hoped to be able to sink show up over to the NW, yes NW, of Rabaul and run into some of the escaping transports making their way down the north and east coast of New Guinea from Luzon. I had not even thought of this possibility!! I had moved my 2 CV TFs, 2 SC TF, and left Force Z at Rabaul with the plan of sinking numerous ships trying to get back to Truk. DUH!! [8|][8|] I should have had either a V-8 or slept in a Holiday Inn Express to help me out...[:D]

Day Time Surface Combat, near Long Island at 100,123, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kikuzuki
DD Mikazuki
DD Yuzuki
xAK Hokkai Maru
xAP Ural Maru

Allied Ships
AO Trinity

Day Time Surface Combat, near Saidor at 99,123, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kikuzuki
DD Mikazuki
DD Yuzuki
xAK Hokkai Maru
xAP Ural Maru

Allied Ships
AO Pecos

CA Ashigara & DD Yamagumo are near Mangole at 74,105 with CAP of 4 A6M2 Zero (from Ryujo and Shoho) to face my attack from Ambon. 7(1) 139WH-3, 1(1) B-339D, 3(1) Hudson I x 3. A second attack of 7(1) Hudson I find another 6 A6M2 Zero on CAP (from Ryujo, Zuiho, and Shoho). Neither attack gets a hit.

Malaya:
Singapore - 30(3) Ki-43-Ib Oscar come in at 19k and find 16(1) Buffalo I and 16(1); 3(2) Ki-43-Ib Oscar come in after the first wave to still find 3(1) Buffalo I and 7 Hurricane IIb on CAP;

Burma:
Rangoon - 2 A6M2 Zero sweep an empty sky. Later, another 18 A6M2 Zero come in for a visit.

China:
Sinyang - 3rd Group Army is attacked by 12 Ki-30 Ann [8c]
Changsha - 19 Lily, 50 Sally, 19 Nate escort in 25 Lily [9r]
Chengting - Japanese Deliberate attack 281:187 by two Ind.Mixed Brigade
Kweiteh falls to 32nd Division vs 51st Chinese Corps with 406:3 odds [783c]

Philippines:
Lingayen - 21st PA Infantry Division is attacked 9 Sonia escorted by 8 Nates [24c]
Tuguegarao - 3rd/12th PA Inf Battalion is targeted by 6 Sonia [16c]; falls to Shock attack by 48th Recon Regiment & 7th Tank Regiment with 101:1 odds [700c]

Rabaul area:

Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4404 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 137

Defending force 1864 troops, 30 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 30

Japanese adjusted assault: 111

Allied adjusted defense: 19

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Rabaul !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), preparation(-)
fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
165 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
327 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 45 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 12 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 18 (17 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2
Units destroyed 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
144th Infantry Regiment
III/66th Naval Guard Unit
II/66th Naval Guard Unit
1st JNAF Coy Thankfully there is not a larger BF here!!

Defending units:
Lark Battalion
Rabaul Coastal Gun Battalion
Rabaul Det. Base Force

CVs:
KB - no known position. Probably over to support Wake invasion
Mini-KB @ 73, 108 (4 SE Kendari) Looks to be looking for shipping and there is nothing around. Even Soerabaja is relatively empty if he heads in that direction.

Lexington and Enterprise - see screenshot below
Saratoga @ 180, 129 (12 NE Christmas Island)

Notes:
Lesson learned around Rabaul to think through as many options for your opponent that you can think of. I didn't in this case. Hopefully, I can move fast enough in a westerly direction to get some more licks in.
Port Moresby - I often do not try to defend this base, but I am going to try to make this a large speed bump. I have 206 Assault Value there now, forts at 1 with 85% towards next level, Aviation Support at 71, and supply at 8834 with another 6712 still to be unloaded. I have a PBY group and the 4 other small patrol groups that start every game here.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2012 12:34 pm**

Dec 18th: I-166 feast on unescorted transports [:(], SC TFs sink most of fleeing small ships from Rabaul, KB off grid for second day.

Subs:
I-166 is just north of Billiton and sinks two xAKLs in the AM phase, then a third in the afternoon. [:(]

Manado - KXVI vs DD Murakumo, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage (sinking sounds) [:D]

At Sea:
4 DDs sink a fleeing xAK about 8 hexes SW of Iwo-Jima.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Rambutyo at 102,122, Range 2,000 Yards
(4 West of Kavieng)

Japanese Ships
PB Koei Maru, Shell hits 16, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Kure Maru #5, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
xAKL Shoan Maru, heavy fires
xAKL Higari Maru, Shell hits 16, and is sunk
xAKL Konsan Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Portland, Shell hits 1
CA Louisville
DD Craven
DD Gridley
DD Ellet

Day Time Surface Combat, near Cape Gloucester at 102,123, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Sento Maru, Shell hits 8, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Portland
CA Louisville
DD Craven
DD Gridley
DD Ellet

Day Time Surface Combat, near Wewak at 98,118, Range 5,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kikuzuki, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Mikazuki, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Yuzuki, Shell hits 2
xAK Hokkai Maru, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
xAP Ural Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
CA Northampton
CA Chicago
DD McCall, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Maury
DD Benham, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage [62-23(10)-26(2)-93]

Day Time Surface Combat, near Wewak at 98,117, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kikuzuki, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
DD Yuzuki, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
xAK Hokkai Maru, Shell hits 17, and is sunk
xAP Ural Maru, Shell hits 21, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Northampton
CA Chicago
DD McCall, on fire

Day Time Surface Combat, near Wewak at 97,119, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Chiyo Maru #4, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
xAK Kazan Maru, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
xAK Eizan Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Daihachikyo Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Shell hits 1
BC Repulse
CL Danae
CL Dragon
CL Durban
DD Vampire
DD Tenedos
DD Electra
DD Express

Morning Air attack on TF, near Hansa Bay at 98,120
Allied aircraft
F2A-3 Buffalo x 10
F4F-3 Wildcat x 4
SBD-3 Dauntless x 16

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Daijukyo Maru, Bomb hits 9, and is sunk
xAK Hokuzyu Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

Morning Air attack on TF, near Wewak at 98,118
Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 9
SBD-2 Dauntless x 17

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Mikazuki, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

Malaya: [>:]

Burma: [>:]

China:
Sinyang - 12th Chinese Corps attacked by 9 Ann

Changsha - 23 Lily [1r]; 18 Nate and 20 Lily [1b, 3r]; 18 Nate and 40 Sally [7c, 1b]

Philippines:
Naga - 9th & 20 Infantry Regiments landing with a BF

Lingayen - 86th PS Coastal Artillery Battalion attacked by 8 Nate and 13 Sonia [46c]

Cagayan - 18 Nell hit the AF [16c, 1s, 17r]

CVs:
KB - MIA for 2 days
Mini-KB @ 75,101 (2 south Manado)

Lexington and Enterprise (2 NW of Manas) - plans to follow Force Z down to Sydney for replenishment and minor repairs (slightly less than one week travel time). Will stay till after Jan 1st to re-size fighters from 21 to 27.
Saratoga - 3 NE Christmas Island headed for Canton Island to refuel from the 8k in fuel there before heading to Sydney.

Notes:
I hope I was able to delay Des' operations in the Solomons and New Guinea area for a few days while he awaits KBs arrival. This allows me time to build up my defenses.

The transports with fuel and Marine fighters will not arrive at Australia until mid-January. So, I have to rely on the limited fuel I have there and what will be unloading at Perth. Thankfully, I have lost less ships that expected from the Luzon area, so it will help long term.

Posted: **Sat May 12, 2012 5:38 pm**

Dec 19th: KB off Wake, sweeps in Burma and over Singapore, and landing at Kuching

Subs:
Triton is on patrol north of Truk and cannot hit a fast moving DD with 2 torpedoes.

I-8 launches 2 torpedoes at AR Castor and sinks her NW of Perth (48,144) with one hit.[:@]

Permit is unable to get a shot off at transport TF unloading at Naga.

At Sea:[>:]

Malaya:
Singapore - 35(1) Oscar sweeping at 20000 feet vs 38(3) Buffalo and 9(1) Hurricane; 30(1) Oscar sweep vs 21(3) Buffalo and 4(1) Hurricane

Burma:
Toungoo - 18(4) Zero sweeping at 19000 feet vs 21(2) H81-A3; 3(0) Zero vs 9(0) H81-A3

Rangoon - 10 Oscar sweeping at 19000 feet; another group of 10 sweep later; in afternoon phase, two groups of 2 Oscar sweep over the base

SRA:
Kuching - the transports unloading here are attacked without success by 4 Blenheim IV and 13 Hudson; 4 Blenheim IV make a run at BB Mutsu; troops landing are 124 Inf Rgt, 91 Nav Gds, 22 Spec BF, 22 Air HQ

China:
near Haichow - Lusu War Area is attacked by 27 Vals [66c] and 32 Nates [0c].

Changsha - 21 Lily hit AF [12c, 1b, 4r]; 50 Sally [9c, 1b, 2r]; 18 Nate and 20 Lily [1s, 20r]

near Chengting - 35th Chinese Corps attacked by 11 Sally [25c]

Philippines:
Cagayan - 12 Zero escort in 8 Betty to find 4(1) P-26A to attack two PT boats with torpedoes!?!

Lingayen - 86th PS Coastal Artillery Battalion is attacked again by 8 Nate and 13 Sonia [12c]

Wake Island:
15 Zero, 12 Kate, and 20 Val hit the base [57c, 2b, 7r]

CVs:
KB @ 133,96 (4 NW Wake)
Mini-KB @ 83,102 (10 NE Ambon)

Saratoga @ 169,142 (16 East Canton)
Lexington and Enterprise @ 101,124 (1 NE Umboi Island) with Force Z one hex ahead

Notes:
AVG moves to Calcutta for more pilot training.
The first wave of fighters and bombers leave Singapore for Port Blair and then to Burma/India

Posted: **Sat May 12, 2012 6:00 pm**

ORIGINAL: ny59giants
[57c, 2b, 7r]

I can't for the life of me figure this out. I'm gonna smack myself when you tell me what it means. [:D]

Posted: **Sat May 12, 2012 6:02 pm**

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

ORIGINAL: ny59giants
[57c, 2b, 7r]

I can't for the life of me figure this out. I'm gonna smack myself when you tell me what it means. [:D]

Dec 17th:
Key - c = casualties, b = airbase hits, s = supply hits, r = runway hits

Hope it helps,

Rasmus

Posted: **Sat May 12, 2012 6:13 pm**

*Smacks self in forehead*

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