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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:37 am
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Numdydar

Doing my part and bumping [:)]
Thanks! [:)]

I'll try to get something out this week. I haven't been able to put the time in on it when I thought I would.

RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:56 am
by RogerJNeilson
Bump, any further development yet?

RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:09 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3

Bump, any further development yet?
No - getting back to it now! I got distracted by other stuff going on around here (locally).

RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:20 pm
by RogerJNeilson
No problems, it was looking very useful

Roger

RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:37 pm
by Reg
witpqs, Have you considered making this a stand alone application.

http://www.py2exe.org/
or
http://cx-freeze.sourceforge.net/

(or py2app for MacOS )


RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:57 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Reg

witpqs, Have you considered making this a stand alone application.

http://www.py2exe.org/
or
http://cx-freeze.sourceforge.net/

(or py2app for MacOS )

I've looked at those and plan to try that at some point. Do you have particular interest in that? If so, could you explain a bit just for my understanding of why?

RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:11 pm
by Reg

I'm sure most people have gotten Python installed and running on their systems. However, if an application can be made stand alone and save the users installing support packages they don't otherwise need, I think it is a far more elegant distribution solution to do so.

Just a suggestion for the future.


RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:28 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Reg


I'm sure most people have gotten Python installed and running on their systems. However, if an application can be made stand alone and save the users installing support packages they don't otherwise need, I think it is a far more elegant distribution solution to do so.

Just a suggestion for the future.

OK. That was why I started looking at it. One allure of the plain Python distribution is that people can look at the actual code all they want.

BTW, have you use those two tools? What is your experience with them? What do you think of them?

RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:45 am
by Reg

I think it is important to provide the simplest installation and be able to run on the most systems as possible. That is why I wrote the rotating artwork display utilities in humble MSDOS. It was crude and pushed the code to the limits but it was guaranteed to run on every Windows machine with no additional installations.

Though examining the code will be a stimulating intellectual exercise for the enlightened, I think the majority of users will just want a simple reliable install so they can get in there and use your application!!

I have been looking for a suitable language/utility set to write GUI applications for some time. You bringing Python-Tcl/TK to my attention with Intel Monkey seems to have provided a solution for me. I have looked at Tcl/TK before but the way they have integrated with Python has made it very usable.

I haven't actually tried either of py2exe (doesn't seem to support Python3.3) or cx_freeze but they look promising and will be the way I will be going for any distributions I may do.

Edit: I downloaded and successfully installed PIL (Python Imaging Library) and cx_freeze. PIL works perfectly but I haven't tried cx_freeze yet.


RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:50 am
by bigred
Hi witpqs. I am loading IM and got this screenie for review. help please.



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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:59 am
by RogerJNeilson
Just a thought, have you put in a search term?

Also have you got your games archived? The utility looks for game files in a sub folder called archive - which is populated every turn provided you have set the -archive flag on your game properties.....

You can copy previous files into the archive folder manually, but they have to be in there to be read.

Roger

RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:55 pm
by bigred
ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3

Just a thought, have you put in a search term? I loaded the last replay, (noted the files did go to archive), then searched for Hiei which was in a surface combat last turn. Then I deleted the archive, copied and pasted all the old asignt/combat reports into the archive, to no avail. But I have yet to run a new turn, which I am about to do.

Also have you got your games archived? The utility looks for game files in a sub folder called archive - which is populated every turn provided you have set the -archive flag on your game properties.....

You can copy previous files into the archive folder manually, but they have to be in there to be read.

Roger
Thanks Roger.
What was the discussion about removing a file/readme from the IM folder?
ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3

Getting a problem when running the bases file:

Input folder pointed to Scen file
Output folder pointed to Intel Monkey folder
Scen set at 001 - standard campaign


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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:08 pm
by bigred
another look: file witploadAE ??? I did click on this file. I had a quick screen flash then nothing happened.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:23 pm
by RogerJNeilson
Its a long time since I used this, waiting for witpqs to update it. Maybe best to wait for him to respond.

Roger

RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:43 pm
by witpqs
bigred:

Regarding witploadAE - You don't need to run that program directly. Instead, that program (which was written by the AE Devs, maybe Michael, dunno) is used by the program "GetbasesFromScenario" (you have V1-0 there). Run that program by double-clicking on it and follow instructions. That will retrieve a list of bases for the scenario that you are playing, which Intel Monkey will use. You only need to run that program one time, as it creates a file that stays in the Intel Monkey folder. But if you start a new game with a new scenario, run it again to replace that file with the new list of bases.

Regarding the SigInt coming up with 0 records - There are a couple of possibilities, but from your screen pic it looks like one of two things. Which side are you playing? Only the side that you are playing gets any SigInt records inside the SigInt reports, so make sure you click on the correct Intel Monkey .bat file (-A for Allies and -J for Japan).

The second thing is that when you run WITP-AE, your command line must include the "-archive" switch. If it does not, then the game will not bother putting copies of the reports in the \save\archive sub-folder, and they will not be there for Intel Monkey to find and report on.

If you have only played the first turn of the game, then you can manually copy those report files into the archive folder. Then add the -archive switch so they are automatically put there from now on. You will see the naming convention when they are put there automatically, just rename the files you manually copied to comply.

If you have already played a whole bunch of turns, then turn on the -archive switch now. Previous turns' reports can only be generated by running the combat replay, one turn after another. That might not be practical, in which case you will at least have available reports 'from now on'.

RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:46 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3

Its a long time since I used this, waiting for witpqs to update it. Maybe best to wait for him to respond.

Roger
Got it!

If you peek at my AAR you see that both SigInt and Combat sections are yielding good results. I am getting back into it now for a short amount of time each day rather than trying to get big blocks of time.

Happy New Year, Roger! [:)]

RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:46 pm
by RogerJNeilson
And a happy new year to you too from over the pond.

Roger

RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:07 pm
by bigred
archive worked!! note the new files i cant use yet.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:52 pm
by bigred
more look

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.1b)

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:10 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: bigred

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I think I see the problem. The default configuration for Intel Monkey assumes that it is in - using your path as an example - the folder

C:\Matrix Games\RA70FatR\tools\Intel Monkey

But yours is actually in

C:\Matrix Games\RA70FatR\tools\Intel Monkey\Intel Monkey V0-4-1b

The easiest way for you to get it working is to move the Intel monkey files up one level to the 'Intel Monkey' folder. If you really want it to be in the folder 'Intel Monkey V0-4-1b' I can talk you through how to make that change inside the Intel Monkey program. But you would then have to make that change whenever I release a new version. If you move the files up one level as I suggest then you can just use the default configuraion that it comes with.