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ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

ORIGINAL: Bo Rearguard

Another addition to the carrier building club. India just launched it's first home built carrier--the Vikrant.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-23674627

In 2010, the World Bank reported that 32.7% of the total Indian people fall below the international poverty line of US$ 1.25 per day (PPP) while 68.7% live on less than US$ 2 per day... but of course, they need a fleet of expensive carriers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_India

warspite1

They also have a space program.....

And a Nuclear program ...

Who needs carriers? I just have a shopping cart I keep all my stuff in.

ORIGINAL: catwhoorg

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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury





In 2010, the World Bank reported that 32.7% of the total Indian people fall below the international poverty line of US$ 1.25 per day (PPP) while 68.7% live on less than US$ 2 per day... but of course, they need a fleet of expensive carriers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_India

warspite1

They also have a space program.....

And a Nuclear program ...

Warspite1

And yet, in the lifetime of the current parliament, the UK will give 1bn in aid to the country.....

Funny old game isn't it?

They need those expensive programs so that the common (poor) people can be motivated by national pride and work harder, lifting themselves out of poverty! It works like magic!


PS - what's the designated sarcasm font color around here? There should be one. I nominate this one, the last "red" on the color list.

Oh, that's so hot Lokasenna.

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Oh, that's so hot Lokasenna.

I like yours. Easier to see.

[Edited: To omit comment.]

We will never know what Canoerebel's sarcastic color is.[:'(]

My comment was that this thread has become something absurdely off topic and off limits. [:)]

I think his sarcastic color is black. Don't tell anyone.

an off topic thread that goes off topic [:D]

I personally don't think this is as bad as if it was a game related topic

I resent your implication. I can be every bit as ignorant on-topic as off.

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: catwhoorg

ORIGINAL: warspite1


warspite1

They also have a space program.....

And a Nuclear program ...

Warspite1

And yet, in the lifetime of the current parliament, the UK will give 1bn in aid to the country.....

Funny old game isn't it?

Indeed. Funny old game.

Hmmm. What purpose could the Indians have for a carrier other than national pride?

It would make a great place for dance numbers for a Bollywood film but what military purpose?

Seems like naval embargo of Pakistan to me. Maybe ASW duty depending on what kind of aircraft you put aboard.

Who else would they tangle with? China? Nepal? Do they even have a navy?

Also, when do they put the dot on the bow?

They have had an operational carrier force of some sort since 1961.

The original Vikrant participated in the naval blockade of Pakistan (well the modern day Bangladesh) during the 65 war. Fixed wing jets were the main aircraft.

Viraat (ex HMS Hermes) is more a ASW platform, with some commando/amphib type support. (Helos and Harriers)

The ex Soviet one (Baku, can't recall the Indian name) will carry Mig 29's so is back to more of a force projection.

ORIGINAL: catwhoorg

They have had an operational carrier force of some sort since 1961.

The original Vikrant participated in the naval blockade of Pakistan (well the modern day Bangladesh) during the 65 war. Fixed wing jets were the main aircraft.

Viraat (ex HMS Hermes) is more a ASW platform, with some commando/amphib type support. (Helos and Harriers)

The ex Soviet one (Baku, can't recall the Indian name) will carry Mig 29's so is back to more of a force projection.

Interesting. Didn't know all that. Mig 29's are impressive. What will this one carry? Has to be something that could stand up to a Paki F-16.

Probably Mig-29s and some helos.

Ski-jump assisted takeoff and arrested landing.

Yes, looks very similar to the Gorshkov/ Vikramaditya and should use a similar airgroup
According to Wikipedia:
12 Mikoyan MiG-29K
8 HAL Tejas
10 Kamov Ka-31 or Westland Sea King

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ORIGINAL: catwhoorg

They have had an operational carrier force of some sort since 1961.

The original Vikrant participated in the naval blockade of Pakistan (well the modern day Bangladesh) during the 65 war. Fixed wing jets were the main aircraft.

Viraat (ex HMS Hermes) is more a ASW platform, with some commando/amphib type support. (Helos and Harriers)

The ex Soviet one (Baku, can't recall the Indian name) will carry Mig 29's so is back to more of a force projection.

Interesting. Didn't know all that. Mig 29's are impressive. What will this one carry? Has to be something that could stand up to a Paki F-16.

warspite1

Could I respectfully ask you to re-phrase that please Cap? Thank-you.

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Hmmm. What purpose could the Indians have for a carrier other than national pride?

It would make a great place for dance numbers for a Bollywood film but what military purpose?

Seems like naval embargo of Pakistan to me. Maybe ASW duty depending on what kind of aircraft you put aboard.

Who else would they tangle with? China? Nepal? Do they even have a navy?

Also, when do they put the dot on the bow?

The Indian Navy has been very active since Independence. They kicked things off with running off the Portuguese fleet during the "liberation" of Goa in 1961 and followedd up with a well executed port attack and blockade of Karachi by CV's in 1971. The Indian Navy has a long reach into the Indian Ocean, Bay of Bengal, and the Arabian Sea. With the Andaman Islands in the East and several dot islands in the West the Indian Air Force can augment sea power with surveillance, ASW, and missile targeting.

Recently the Indians have participated in Tsunami relief, the Iraq War(s), and anti-piracy operations. The Indians are quite good and are a regional power to be reckoned with. One of the reasons the Chinese have expanded port operations in Myanmar (Burma)- Kyaukpyu and he Great Coco Island.