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I dont know if anyone said it yet but
Hamburger Hill...Dam that movie sucked.
How high was that hill.
They were forever climbing a 90 degree angle hill... I understand there was Friendly fire but ouch.......i think the audience also got hit at the box office....

Stupid Plot.

RED DAWN?

Red Dawn wasn't a war movie.

Hence pointless to mention it.

It was a cheesy action flick with a lot of guys wearing combats if it was anything.

Hey, if it was pointless to mention it, why did you?

I don't know, a cheesy action flick with lots of guys in combats sure sounds like a bad war movie to me.

Maybe we need to have another Molson to agree on something!

Happy New Year!

Hehe Stef me remarking on your remark is me remarking on your remark man eh:)

You mentioned the film.

I am rebutting your remark.

But no, a war movie is not merely some guys in combats (although combats do figure in war movies hehe).

If a war movie was just guys in combats, then the evening news is a war movie, hey its on film and those guys had combats on eh.

See my point?

A war movie is a category. There is little point to categorisation though, if their are no boundaries in place to distinguish the difference.

You know, I think Red Dawn IS a war movie. Its set during WW3. The guys are running around with assault rifles, tanks, attack copters, etc. I mean, if that ain't a war movie, I don't know what is.

OK, sure they weren't uniformed soldiers, but don't partisans count too?

Don't work CCB remember Korea? That wasn't a war, says right here in my history books.

Police Action. So it was a crime drama of some sort eh.

And Vietnam wasn't a war, something about dominos I think, so that hmm makes Vietnam a sporting contest (hmmm rather rough game though eh, right up with Aussie Rules Football:) )

Yes the premise of the movie Red Dawn was that WWIII had started. SO it was a war movie, but only showed us as the kids being partisans.

I rather liked it, pretty lame for capabilities, not like a bunch of highschool kids are going to be that successful against real troops, and the are was supposed to be guarded by the front line troops that took it.

Entertaining though.

I liked Blawk Hawk Down too, still havent gotten an answer as to why that one was listed here as no good. But by the above definition it wasnt a war movie either since it was a peace keeping mission for the UN. )

Kids against real troops?

Hmm maybe the Palestinians, Vietnamese, Polish, French, Russians etc, could tell you how kids can be quite nasty when they are forced to be.

There is nothing "nice" about fighting civilians on their home turf in a lot of cases.

My worst war movie has to be Fireball Forward with Ben Gazarra in the early/mid 70s. It was a lame scenario with clips from Patton and I think Battle of the Bulge. I think it became a TV series for a short season.

Originally posted by Hawk
I dont know if anyone said it yet but
Hamburger Hill...Dam that movie sucked.
How high was that hill.
They were forever climbing a 90 degree angle hill... I understand there was Friendly fire but ouch.......i think the audience also got hit at the box office....

Hamburger Hill was 937 meters high. Extremely thick jungle. Very steep ascent, not helped by heavy monsoon rains. Many, Many booby traps, and stolen, captured or black market US claymore mines in the trees. CQ fighting resulted in one gunship pass raking friendly troops.

And if that doesn't make the hill seem several times as high as 937 meters nothing ever will eh.

I thought it was a good movie myself.

Not awesome, but faulting it for depicting what it was, for the reason it was called what it was seems silly doncha think?

Originally posted by Twotribes


I liked Blawk Hawk Down too, still havent gotten an answer as to why that one was listed here as no good. But by the above definition it wasnt a war movie either since it was a peace keeping mission for the UN. )

Sorry, didn't spot that.

As a film, it was okay. Lots of action, lots of bullets, nice sets.
As a film based on a book portraying real-life events, it was pants. i've seen a couple of documentaries now on the events of Mogadishu and the information gleaned from interviews with the people living near 'Ranger Street' is rather at odds with the film portrayal.

Ahhhh once again someone disappointed that a movie somehow refused to portray something like it actually happened, how sad hehe.

They do this with books too eh.

Oh and want to hear the truth about Santa Claus?

Read the book BlackHawk Down.Awesome read,and one of the biggest things they changed for the movie was the combining of several Rangers into one or two characters.By the way anyone remember the name of that movie where that Aircraft Carrier gets sucked through a vortex and finds itself back in time,right before Pearl Harbor?

The carrier movie was the "Final Countdown" with Martin Sheen...

Great part where the two zero's are intercepted by the tomcats..hehe

I liked the part where they met some old friends at the end.

The Final Countdown

If that film interested you, The Philidelphia Experiement might be entertaining to you if you have not seen it yet.

Actually there is one movie that i'm interested in,its not a war movie per say.Its about a castle in Hungary or Romania,i think,and theres these German troops stationed there well they go messing around in the castle and all hell breaks loose so to speak.Its called the Keep,i think,read the book but never seen the movie.

I have not read the book, but the film was fun.

Atypical creepy thing though, but an interesting movie.