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ORIGINAL: loki100

re the VPs, I think the game design problem is with no representation of the naval war the designers need something to reflect the large diversion of effort that went into effectively beating the U-boats over 1943. So the WA either pay the price in the currency of VPs or of diverted effort?

Now it may well be that the game is yet to be balanced in VP terms, that I suspect will take quite a few completed games to come to a judgement over, but I think they are on the right lines with the mechanism. The problem with this type of routine, which is to some extent outside the games' core systems, is that is where imbalances more easily arise.

If Pelton is using AS directives, then things that occur to me are:

a) he takes some operational losses if you are there or not?
b) go in mob handed on just 1 or 2 days, so he flies the rest of time to no effect
c) annoy him by hitting something else most of the time, then do raids say 1 week in three over Hamburg et al.

All this 'advice' may well be, as in my local venacular, complete mince, its one problem when playing someone very able is they seem to have all the options closed off and seemingly more capacity than appears reasonable. I'm in a roughly similar situation in my current WiTE PBEM where all I seem to do is to play into my opponents hands - so face the choice of sticking to what may work in the long term, or coming up with something new (that may well in reality work no better)

good fun really [;)]

ORIGINAL: Baelfiin

If its out of p47 and spit range is what I mean by deep into Germany.
My last screenshot of bombing raid at U-boats I took the entire 8th air force to Hamburg 1 raid a day for 3 days.
300 plus p38 and p51's (for some reason only could get 144 escorts per raid)
600 plus b17 b24 (only would fly 330ish per raid)
I faced raid1 300 fighters
raid2 280
raid3 254
My losses from flak and a2a-- 44 fighters, 64 bombers, Germans 23 fighters
Bombed the U-boat factory from 27k and did 79 percent damage to 35 factories.
The next turn U-boat points went down to -1
I am actually happy that I didn't lose more planes on the first raid being outnumbered 2-1 in fighters.
Its hard for me to do really good aar with server game but I will try to put some air details into the next one vp charts etc.
One thing is for sure, my experience is that if you play Pelton, bring your a+game 8)

ORIGINAL: meklore61

Just fly low key for awhile and let your pools rebuild. You will get an infusion of aircraft around the end of 43, so just hang on. Once December hits, start taking out all the VWL sites before Jan 44. He will have to move his aircraft forward if he wants to protect his VWL sites. If it were me, I wouldn't bother, but I'm not sure what he's got planned for you .

ORIGINAL: smokindave34

Those bomber losses you suffered in your last screenshot are pretty high. It's been said before but I would consider changing up your targets for a turn or two (go after HI or fuel) to keep Pelton off balance. See if he moves his fighters around to respond to your changing tactics. You will lose some VP from not hitting the U-boat pens but you may keep him off balance and not have to deal with a swarm of 300+ LW fighters.

ORIGINAL: JocMeister


Instead of spiraling out control VP loss from U-boats suddenly go from -7 to -1 despite mediocre results last turn. I might have hit the big factory at Hamburg harder then I though. Subject to FOW?

ORIGINAL: meklore61

Those numbers are for the total of 7 weeks of flying. They don't look too high to me, and the good part is that your doing him better than 2 to 1. Axis pilots will be gone within a year.

1. New Aircraft Upgrades (section 8.1.8) – US 2-4 engine aircraft may not be used for upgrades 1 month after beginning production. US single engine aircraft are still not available until 3 months after beginning production.

ORIGINAL: loki100
don't forget (says he who has just discovered this) that you can tell your recon what to prioritise, so you can try to really be accurate on a single line of the targetting options

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

PS, could anyone recommend an WITE AAR that covers the ground war in good detail? Down to the small stuff?

ORIGINAL: meklore61

Don't split your forces, put SU's in your divisions and don't invade south of Rome. You can get most of your air power on Sardinia and Corsica so invade as close to your airfields as possible.

ORIGINAL: Baelfiin
Totally different games, I wouldn't use WITE as a base because so much is different in the air and logistics.