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RE: Alan R. Arvold's Ode to Divided Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:00 am
by Crossroads
Leaders (foot) seems like a good solution, agreed.

And what do you know, Tanks of Tammuz is available as a Kindle book, for a mere fiver. Looks like a must buy!

RE: Alan R. Arvold's Ode to Divided Ground

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:57 pm
by Spartan7
Finished playing around with the "Rafah '67" scenario to make it closer to my take on the historical situation.
Deleted leaders as in previous post.
Changed leaders and HQ to foot and gave them halftracks to load on to. A little difficult to tell who's who when loaded (is it a leader, squad, mortar, LMG? that is on a particular halftrack) but just adds a little FOW
Deleted the entire 60th Brigade. Historically I believe was the division reserve but was used for it's primary mission to swing south and attack the Jiradi pass. Got stuck out in the dunes and largely ran out of gas. Do not think historically it actually participated directly in the Rafah fight. Similar situation with Granit force. Was held back for it's primary mission and did not participate directly in the fight at Rafah. Anyway just my take. Deletions of the 60th and Granit force make it much more "sporty" for the Israeli side.

RE: Alan R. Arvold's Ode to Divided Ground

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:26 pm
by cohimbra
ORIGINAL: Spartan7
Changed leaders and HQ to foot and gave them halftracks to load on to. A little difficult to tell who's who when loaded (is it a leader, squad, mortar, LMG? that is on a particular halftrack) but just adds a little FOW.
You can see who's who when loaded, just right-click on right column

RE: Alan R. Arvold's Ode to Divided Ground

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:51 pm
by Crossroads
ORIGINAL: Spartan7

Finished playing around with the "Rafah '67" scenario to make it closer to my take on the historical situation.
Deleted leaders as in previous post.
Changed leaders and HQ to foot and gave them halftracks to load on to. A little difficult to tell who's who when loaded (is it a leader, squad, mortar, LMG? that is on a particular halftrack) but just adds a little FOW
Deleted the entire 60th Brigade. Historically I believe was the division reserve but was used for it's primary mission to swing south and attack the Jiradi pass. Got stuck out in the dunes and largely ran out of gas. Do not think historically it actually participated directly in the Rafah fight. Similar situation with Granit force. Was held back for it's primary mission and did not participate directly in the fight at Rafah. Anyway just my take. Deletions of the 60th and Granit force make it much more "sporty" for the Israeli side.

Wanna share that with us? This is Mods and Scenarios forum, after all [:'(]

Just

[*] Save-as to different *.SCN File name, so it does not mix with original,
[*] Make a subtle change to Scenario Title like "The Battle of Rafah Junction 1967 Alternate by Spartan" (or what ever),
[*] Make change notes and credit Alan on Scenario Description.

...and it should be good.


edit typos

RE: Alan R. Arvold's Ode to Divided Ground

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:23 pm
by Spartan7
OK. Will try to do that. Does my revised OOB go with the scenario when I post It? Never done this before. Thanks for the tip COHIMBRA. Catching a plane tomorrow early AM to go overseas so might be out of touch for a while. Really enjoy this community. thanks all

RE: Alan R. Arvold's Ode to Divided Ground

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:01 pm
by Crossroads
Just a quick heads-up on Alan's work with Divided Ground original scenarios.

Alan's completed all scenarios from the 1948-1973 era. Those will be included in CSME 2.0, together with all Arab-Israeli Wars and October War scenarios.

He's now working with Divided Ground post-1973 hypotheticals, and has provided initial versions of following scenarios to me:

[*] Ashqelon
[*] On Two Fronts
[*] Israeli Assault

Once he's completed his set and is happy about the outcome, I'll make those scenarios available two.

Again, my sincere thanks to Alan for giving all these DG original scenarios a completely new lease of life!

RE: Alan R. Arvold's Ode to Divided Ground

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:25 pm
by Jafele
Great news!!! [:)]

And a BIG thank you to Alan. [&o]

RE: Alan R. Arvold's Ode to Divided Ground

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:17 pm
by Spartan7
Crossroads:

Been overseas for the last 2 months and have not had a chance to respond.

I've completed my rework of the Rafah 67 scenario and would like to put it out there. As I've never done this before I've got a couple of questions.

I modified the exist scenario and saved it under a new name (giving the appropriate credits)
I've created a long list of the changes and sources.
I've also modified the existing OOB file.

If I post the new scenario, how do I link the new OOB to the scenario?

All of the changes were in 1.02 so I'm not sure how this will translate to 2.0.

I apologize for these questions.....more of a historian than a computer guy.

Let me know....it is a real sporty scenario with what I think are historical elements.

Also starting to look at 2.0 and some of the new scenarios....the 8 part Crossing/Chinese Farm look great (thanks to AA). Just another bit of historical nit picking, am reworking the OOB for "the Most terrible Night" Scenario. Found a website for the 14th Brigade (Reshef) which led the crossing attempt and was able to translate it from Hebrew to English. Includes Reshef's after action reports including his detailed OOB . More to come

RE: Alan R. Arvold's Ode to Divided Ground

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:12 am
by Crossroads
^^ Thanks Spartan! I guess we can agree these OoBs will remain a work-in-progress for times to come given the secret classification of many of them. But we can decrypt the secrecy one OoB at a time, right!

Please email me the scenario files, I'll be happy to have a look at them. My addy is crossroadsdotcslegion at gmaildotcom.

I put a new scenario table of content post for this and other scenarios out there. I'll put a pointer to this once complete.

RE: Alan R. Arvold's Ode to Divided Ground

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:01 pm
by Crossroads
bump