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RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:12 am
by maverick3320
Honestly I just can't imagine a hot war in this part of the world. Any major conflict would result in Russia ultimately losing Kaliningrad permanently, and likely push several nations even further into the US/EU/NATO orbit.

RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:23 pm
by edsw
ORIGINAL: BeirutDude

Making slow progress but I have the Russian Crimean bases finished. At this rate the war will be over before I get there!

As to the Baltic I worked weeks on Kaliningrad and have it finished. I just lost it with all of the permutations possible in the Baltic. Anybody want to us it for a scenario PM me and I'll zip it up for you. I was going to expand "Putin's War" to the Baltic but I lost it!!!!! [:D]
If it's not difficult I would like to see your scenario in the baltic

RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:20 pm
by edsw
Zelensky spoke about the Situation in Donbass, We (Ukraine) are not the first to open fire, and offered to meet Putin in Donbass, this is blackmailing Ukraine.

RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:21 pm
by edsw
This is all bad, I live right next to the Russian border

RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:22 pm
by edsw
It is difficult to say whether this is related to these events or not, but the Internet is working intermittently.

RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:31 pm
by DESRON420
That's very bad. I hope you and yours stay safe. The situation has made me furious for years. [:@]

RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:24 pm
by BeirutDude
Its unfinished to be sure. Anybody that wants to take what I've done so far and run with it for your own scenario feel free. I haven't adjusted any of the WRA. I might come back to it someday, but I just didn't know where this one would stop!!!!!

RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:52 pm
by DESRON420
Happily this is likely to remain theoretical as Shoigin has announced that Russian troops will return to their permanent bases starting Friday and ending May 1.

RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:59 pm
by Blast33
Hmmm move units for almost 4 weeks from all over big Russia, practice 3 days and go home..?
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RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:16 pm
by DESRON420
Making the taxpayers buy a bunch of diesel for no reason is actually a great idea if you also own Rosneft

RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:11 pm
by edsw
ORIGINAL: BeirutDude

Its unfinished to be sure. Anybody that wants to take what I've done so far and run with it for your own scenario feel free. I haven't adjusted any of the WRA. I might come back to it someday, but I just didn't know where this one would stop!!!!!
thank you very much)))

RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:11 pm
by edsw
ORIGINAL: DESRON420

That's very bad. I hope you and yours stay safe. The situation has made me furious for years. [:@]
That's very bad. I hope you and yours stay safe. The situation has made me furious for years.
Thank you for your support

RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:26 pm
by kevinkins
I wonder if Russia achieved anything. Given their economy is less robust than Italy's, it seems to be a very expensive exercise. I suppose the West's media talking about the maneuvers meant something internally to Putin.

RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:45 pm
by BeirutDude
[center]Maskirovka????[/center]

In any case have the Russian airfields finished (I think, there are sooooooo many!)



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RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:03 pm
by Gunner98
I wonder if Russia achieved anything.

I think yes. In addition to sending out constant and fairly decent IO messages on capability, they test their mobilization plans, and all the lower level stuff that goes one behind that.

More importantly I think they test reaction in the west with a new US administration. Probably scooped a lot of info in the cyber world.


RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:31 am
by AKar
ORIGINAL: Gunner98
I wonder if Russia achieved anything.

I think yes. In addition to sending out constant and fairly decent IO messages on capability, they test their mobilization plans, and all the lower level stuff that goes one behind that.

More importantly I think they test reaction in the west with a new US administration. Probably scooped a lot of info in the cyber world.

Indeed, a good point which I completely agree with. This is about as close as one can get being "real" while still operating in peace time. Probably all this was partly motivated by poking on the opponent and monitoring the responses (or lack thereof!) - both political and military ones. I wonder if the US got a hint of all this being "just an exercise", via their diplomatic channels or otherwise, when deciding to pull back the transitioning of the destroyers to the Black Sea.

RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:11 pm
by BeirutDude
I wonder if the US got a hint of all this being "just an exercise", via their diplomatic channels or otherwise, when deciding to pull back the transitioning of the destroyers to the Black Sea.

Or if Putin just got the gauge of the man and found him wanting. Playing chess, while we play checkers????

RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:56 am
by DESRON420
Personally think they were planning to go for Mariupol but Putin got scared of NATO and blinked. Big clumsy L for Russia that will accelerate Ukraine's move towards the West

RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:21 pm
by BeirutDude
Well we all have opinions, but I wonder while we were all watching the build up on the Ukraine border, what did they really move/do? [X(][&:]

RE: Donbass Conflict heating up????

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:21 pm
by Gunner98
Baltic, Gasprom pipeline.