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Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:51 pm
by PanzerMike
Well, the Germans will be hard pressed to reach Moscow in 1941...

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:56 pm
by PanzerMike
Ok, the Petsamo - Murmans road is gone. And the map is polished a little more.

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:27 pm
by ncc1701e
PanzerMike wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:51 pm Well, the Germans will be hard pressed to reach Moscow in 1941...
Is there a way to get rid of the moving capital thing? The 25 PP points in Moscow must stay now that the city is far away.

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:48 pm
by StalnoyMonstr
ncc1701e wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:27 pm
PanzerMike wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:51 pm Well, the Germans will be hard pressed to reach Moscow in 1941...
Is there a way to get rid of the moving capital thing? The 25 PP points in Moscow must stay now that the city is far away.
But Moscow is simply in its place, where it should be according to real geography? And this is the idea of ​​this map - to arrange geographical objects in their real places.

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:50 pm
by StalnoyMonstr
PanzerMike wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:56 pm Ok, the Petsamo - Murmans road is gone. And the map is polished a little more.
I'm looking forward to trying out your creation :-)

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:19 pm
by PanzerMike
ncc1701e wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:27 pm
PanzerMike wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:51 pm Well, the Germans will be hard pressed to reach Moscow in 1941...
Is there a way to get rid of the moving capital thing? The 25 PP points in Moscow must stay now that the city is far away.
It's just a piece of easy script that does that. Same with the winter scenario that forces the blizzards in 1941. Just scripts. I did not include the winter scripts by the way, since Moscow is a lot harder now I don't think there is a real need anymore.

I don't know if there were any plans to evacuate industry in the Moscow region to the Urals. Do you?

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:10 pm
by StalnoyMonstr
PanzerMike wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:19 pm
ncc1701e wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:27 pm
PanzerMike wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:51 pm Well, the Germans will be hard pressed to reach Moscow in 1941...
Is there a way to get rid of the moving capital thing? The 25 PP points in Moscow must stay now that the city is far away.
It's just a piece of easy script that does that. Same with the winter scenario that forces the blizzards in 1941. Just scripts. I did not include the winter scripts by the way, since Moscow is a lot harder now I don't think there is a real need anymore.

I don't know if there were any plans to evacuate industry in the Moscow region to the Urals. Do you?
The evacuation of design bureaus and enterprises from Moscow began in the summer months of 1941, when the front in the western direction was relatively stable, and the Red Army inflicted significant losses on the Wehrmacht with counterattacks during the Battle of Smolensk. According to the passenger department of the NKPS, from June 29 to July 29, special evacuation trains transported 959,530 people from Moscow, including refugees from the front-line regions.
Everything changed after the Germans launched Operation Typhoon and surrounded our troops near Vyazma in October 1941. As a result of the last tragic event, a giant "hole" was formed on the front line, through which the enemy could easily reach the capital of the Soviet Union. While our military stopped this threat, a mass evacuation of the country's administrative apparatus and the city's industry began in Moscow. In a short time, the diplomatic corps, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, the People's Commissariat of Defense, the Navy, as well as other government, military and industrial institutions were sent to the east.
According to information received from 24 main People's commissariats, 523 enterprises in Moscow and the Moscow Region were evacuated on December 12. By this time, 100,334 wagons out of 143,196 required had been transported to the east, including 43632 with equipment, 20729 with materials and finished products, and 18094 with people. As of December 10, 564,248 industrial workers and their family members were moved to the rear along with the enterprises of 19 People's commissariats. The total number of evacuated residents of the capital has reached 2000000 people.
If we assess the situation as a whole, then according to incomplete data from the NKPS, 2,593 industrial enterprises were exported from the frontline zone to the east during the second half of 1941. Taking into account the fact that a significant part of the productive forces were transferred to the rear areas by decision of local authorities using various types of transport (and there was a significant amount of so-called undocumented cargo), this figure was even higher.
Collective farms and state farms in the eastern regions of the country in the second half of 1941 accepted 2393.3 thousand heads of cattle from the frontline zone. All the evacuation required a little more than 1.5 million railcars.

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:04 pm
by PanzerMike
Thanks! The Moscow event evacuation stays then.

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:57 pm
by sveint
The Soviets feel just right to me with the latest scenarios. Game is really well balanced right now.

On an utter tangent, why is Cagliari a VP?
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Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:43 pm
by stjeand
That does not look that good for Russia.

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:19 pm
by sveint
stjeand wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:43 pm That does not look that good for Russia.
Skill level basically decides the game (and some luck/strategy/risk taking). Which is why you crush me :D

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:31 pm
by ncc1701e
stjeand wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:43 pm That does not look that good for Russia.
:D

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:32 pm
by ncc1701e
StalnoyMonstr wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:10 pm
[The evacuation of design bureaus and enterprises from Moscow began in the summer months of 1941, when the front in the western direction was relatively stable, and the Red Army inflicted significant losses on the Wehrmacht with counterattacks during the Battle of Smolensk. According to the passenger department of the NKPS, from June 29 to July 29, special evacuation trains transported 959,530 people from Moscow, including refugees from the front-line regions.
Everything changed after the Germans launched Operation Typhoon and surrounded our troops near Vyazma in October 1941. As a result of the last tragic event, a giant "hole" was formed on the front line, through which the enemy could easily reach the capital of the Soviet Union. While our military stopped this threat, a mass evacuation of the country's administrative apparatus and the city's industry began in Moscow. In a short time, the diplomatic corps, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, the People's Commissariat of Defense, the Navy, as well as other government, military and industrial institutions were sent to the east.
According to information received from 24 main People's commissariats, 523 enterprises in Moscow and the Moscow Region were evacuated on December 12. By this time, 100,334 wagons out of 143,196 required had been transported to the east, including 43632 with equipment, 20729 with materials and finished products, and 18094 with people. As of December 10, 564,248 industrial workers and their family members were moved to the rear along with the enterprises of 19 People's commissariats. The total number of evacuated residents of the capital has reached 2000000 people.
If we assess the situation as a whole, then according to incomplete data from the NKPS, 2,593 industrial enterprises were exported from the frontline zone to the east during the second half of 1941. Taking into account the fact that a significant part of the productive forces were transferred to the rear areas by decision of local authorities using various types of transport (and there was a significant amount of so-called undocumented cargo), this figure was even higher.
Collective farms and state farms in the eastern regions of the country in the second half of 1941 accepted 2393.3 thousand heads of cattle from the frontline zone. All the evacuation required a little more than 1.5 million railcars.
Thanks for this

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:56 pm
by StalnoyMonstr
I am glad that both of you, comrades, used the information I provided to create a modification and for the game. In some cases, it's easier for me to find it than for others. In addition, we have been opening archives for several years in a row, and making documents publicly available on the Internet in the form of snapshots of real documents. Historians call this process the "Archival Revolution." Accordingly, scanned documents are in Russian and are often written in cursive, and it will be difficult for foreigners to read them. In particular, the site "Memory of the People" is very good, where I found a lot of information about my ancestors.

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:12 am
by PanzerMike
Well, I am just about finished. I put some effort in modding the graphics so the map looks smoother. By that I also mean transition between terrain should not be 'abrupt' between one hex and its neighbouring hex. The mod is only usable with the graphics I will supply with it, otherwise the map will look pretty weird :)

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:15 am
by PanzerMike
Scandinavia in all its glory.

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:20 am
by PanzerMike
Benelux and environs.

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:54 am
by ncc1701e
Nice, two comments:
1. Amiens is on top of the Somme river in real life. I would have put it one hex up i.e. north of the Somme river. This was the path of Guderian. Sedan, Montcornet, Saint Quentin, Amiens, Abbeville.

2. Dunkirk in French is Dunkerque. Since when Dunkerque is an English location in France?

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:25 pm
by PanzerMike
ncc1701e wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:54 am Nice, two comments:
1. Amiens is on top of the Somme river in real life. I would have put it one hex up i.e. north of the Somme river. This was the path of Guderian. Sedan, Montcornet, Saint Quentin, Amiens, Abbeville.

2. Dunkirk in French is Dunkerque. Since when Dunkerque is an English location in France?
The thing with names is, what language to use. Nürnberg or Nuremberg, München or Munich, Den Haag or The Hague, etc. I already changed most names to the native language names. Dunkirk is an oversight. But maybe some will not recognize the name in French, hehehe

Amiens is right on the Somme, most of the town is south of the river. So it is mostly correct.

Re: So how are the Russians now?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:54 pm
by gingerbread
You could spell the U.K. capital "Londres", to even things out. ;)