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RE: CHS v1.06 Change list

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:45 am
by witpqs
I noticed that there is no oil production in Perth (there is in standard scen 15). Is this by design?

RE: CHS v1.06 Change list

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:23 pm
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: Xian

Yes, but why are they inconsistantly named in CHS or are they indeed consistent with history?
BTW I don't think an RCT could do combined weapons. They had typically an Inf Rgt, Art Bn, and some Recce, but typically not a Tank Bn under the command of the RCT commander. Normally, the smallest unit for combined weapons is the brigade.
American army RCT's DID have their own armor, (it was divided by regiment, not division), and here is a 1950 TOE which is pretty much the same as it was in 1942..

http://carlisle-www.army.mil/cgi-bin/us ... ?docnum=49[;)]

Here is another very good source for TOE info, (including some Japanese info)..
The American TOE info will not always be consistent in WW2 sources because it changed at least 4 times DURING the war !!!
My knowledge of RCT's is due to my father being an officer in a RCT, and tanks were attached to them at the regimental level thruout the entire war..

http://www.stormpages.com/garyjkennedy/index.htm

BTW, I have a VERY detailed American Army division OOB referance book if anybody would like for me to look up anything ??
It lists by unit designation the units which were usually attached, and when..
(Some units were VERY ad hoc, and at least one American infantry company reportedly had it's own platoon of M4 Shermans for the entire war before it was "found out" !!!)[:D]

RE: CHS v1.06 Change list

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:32 pm
by treespider
ORIGINAL: witpqs

I noticed that there is no oil production in Perth (there is in standard scen 15). Is this by design?


I do not know. I will forward this to Andrew for his attention when he returns...

RE: CHS v1.06 Change list

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:09 pm
by Jim D Burns
I think Perth's (and other bases) oil is now auto-supply that cannot be captured or bombed. I'd have to double check to be sure, but I think I remember seeing daily oil as an oil 0/# now.

Ok just checked and Perth is 0/150 oil a day, so it has been changed to auto-supply.

Jim

RE: CHS v1.06 Change list

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:02 pm
by treespider
ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

I think Perth's (and other bases) oil is now auto-supply that cannot be captured or bombed. I'd have to double check to be sure, but I think I remember seeing daily oil as an oil 0/# now.

Ok just checked and Perth is 0/150 oil a day, so it has been changed to auto-supply.

Jim


Thanks Jim!

RE: CHS v1.06 Change list

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:21 am
by DrewBlack
Hi

Can I ask if the Ai has been updated, how does it handle changes????Any surpurises???

Thanks

Drew

RE: CHS v1.06 Change list

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:25 pm
by treespider
ORIGINAL: DrewBlack

Hi

Can I ask if the Ai has been updated, how does it handle changes????Any surpurises???

Thanks

Drew


CHS is just a mod to the unit database. I don't know that they have messed around with the AI editor in the Scenario Editor. I don't believe that has been done. If that was what you were refering to...I f you were refering to Code changes that's just not possible at the moment...

RE: CHS v1.06 Change list

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:27 pm
by treespider
A beta version of this scenario was sent out for proofreading and a number of small errors have been corrected. IF I receive no more reports in the next 10-12 hours I will forward this to Andrew along with a 28 page change list.

RE: CHS v1.06 Change list....DD's posted

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:54 pm
by Bendarek
I will be starting a CHS PBEM game shortly with someone who hasn't installed CHS yet. Is there a specific order in which he should install the files?

Thanks in advance

RE: CHS v1.06 Change list....DD's posted

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:28 am
by treespider
you may want to wait for v1.06. It will be going to Andrew within the hour.

RE: CHS v1.06 Change list....DD's posted

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:47 am
by Bendarek
roger that! thanks for letting me know!

RE: CHS v1.06 Change list....DD's posted

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:02 am
by treespider
CHS v.106 Final change list has been sent to Andrew for his processing! The change list is 27 pages long.

RE: CHS v1.06 Change list....DD's posted

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:06 am
by Andrew Brown
ORIGINAL: treespider

CHS v.106 Final change list has been sent to Andrew for his processing! The change list is 27 pages long.

OK. It will take me 12 hours or so to get it uploaded (I am at work right now and cannot do it until I get home). I will make an announcement when it is uploaded.

So for anyone that has a beta copy - please let us know ASAP if you find any problems.

Andrew

RE: CHS v1.06 Change list

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:08 am
by akdreemer
ORIGINAL: m10bob
ORIGINAL: Xian

Yes, but why are they inconsistantly named in CHS or are they indeed consistent with history?
BTW I don't think an RCT could do combined weapons. They had typically an Inf Rgt, Art Bn, and some Recce, but typically not a Tank Bn under the command of the RCT commander. Normally, the smallest unit for combined weapons is the brigade.
American army RCT's DID have their own armor, (it was divided by regiment, not division), and here is a 1950 TOE which is pretty much the same as it was in 1942..

http://carlisle-www.army.mil/cgi-bin/us ... ?docnum=49[;)]

Here is another very good source for TOE info, (including some Japanese info)..
The American TOE info will not always be consistent in WW2 sources because it changed at least 4 times DURING the war !!!
My knowledge of RCT's is due to my father being an officer in a RCT, and tanks were attached to them at the regimental level thruout the entire war..

http://www.stormpages.com/garyjkennedy/index.htm

BTW, I have a VERY detailed American Army division OOB referance book if anybody would like for me to look up anything ??
It lists by unit designation the units which were usually attached, and when..
(Some units were VERY ad hoc, and at least one American infantry company reportedly had it's own platoon of M4 Shermans for the entire war before it was "found out" !!!)[:D]

Be carefull here, the US INF TOE for Korea was not the same as the the TOE. Many of the units that were organic in 1950 were non-organic duing WWII. Indeed you might want to look at this document:
http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/Lineage/M-F/index.htm
This study examines the evolution of the US Army Divisions (INF,ARM,AB,LI) from WWI to late cold war. In WWII Armor, Tank Destroyer, Anti-Aircraft, 4.2" mortar, and additional artillery units were attached to Divisions on an as needed basis by Corp and Army HQ's. By 1950 it was determined that these units should indeed be organic, thus the 1950 TOE.

Richard

RE: CHS v1.06 Change list....DD's posted

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:14 am
by treespider
ORIGINAL: Andrew Brown

ORIGINAL: treespider

CHS v.106 Final change list has been sent to Andrew for his processing! The change list is 27 pages long.

OK. It will take me 12 hours or so to get it uploaded (I am at work right now and cannot do it until I get home). I will make an announcement when it is uploaded.

So for anyone that has a beta copy - please let us know ASAP if you find any problems.

Andrew

There were a couple last minute updates to the beta that are included in the final version which went to AB...just so the beta proofers are aware that the beta is not the exact same scenario as the final version.

RE: CHS v1.06 Change list....DD's posted

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:41 am
by rockmedic109
12 hours. My arm already has teeth marks! The twitching has begun.

Looking again, there are three Device #238 Nakajima Engines at Tokyo. Probably supposed to be that way, I don't know. Never Looked at Japanese side before. I do not know how the Engine plants work considering they upgrade during the war don't they? Is it a code somewhere or do certain engine plants automatically switch to new engines at a certain time?

Back to nawing on the furniture.

RE: CHS v1.06 Change list

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:52 am
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: AlaskanWarrior
ORIGINAL: m10bob
ORIGINAL: Xian

Yes, but why are they inconsistantly named in CHS or are they indeed consistent with history?
BTW I don't think an RCT could do combined weapons. They had typically an Inf Rgt, Art Bn, and some Recce, but typically not a Tank Bn under the command of the RCT commander. Normally, the smallest unit for combined weapons is the brigade.
American army RCT's DID have their own armor, (it was divided by regiment, not division), and here is a 1950 TOE which is pretty much the same as it was in 1942..

http://carlisle-www.army.mil/cgi-bin/us ... ?docnum=49[;)]

Here is another very good source for TOE info, (including some Japanese info)..
The American TOE info will not always be consistent in WW2 sources because it changed at least 4 times DURING the war !!!
My knowledge of RCT's is due to my father being an officer in a RCT, and tanks were attached to them at the regimental level thruout the entire war..

http://www.stormpages.com/garyjkennedy/index.htm

BTW, I have a VERY detailed American Army division OOB referance book if anybody would like for me to look up anything ??
It lists by unit designation the units which were usually attached, and when..
(Some units were VERY ad hoc, and at least one American infantry company reportedly had it's own platoon of M4 Shermans for the entire war before it was "found out" !!!)[:D]

Be carefull here, the US INF TOE for Korea was not the same as the the TOE. Many of the units that were organic in 1950 were non-organic duing WWII. Indeed you might want to look at this document:
http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/Lineage/M-F/index.htm
This study examines the evolution of the US Army Divisions (INF,ARM,AB,LI) from WWI to late cold war. In WWII Armor, Tank Destroyer, Anti-Aircraft, 4.2" mortar, and additional artillery units were attached to Divisions on an as needed basis by Corp and Army HQ's. By 1950 it was determined that these units should indeed be organic, thus the 1950 TOE.

Richard

You are absolutely correct, and in fact as stupid as this sounds, my statements regarding RCT's were more relevant to those in the ETO !!!
The Divisions going to the Pacific did not recieve the same RCT's as those in Europe,etc.........
I have great referance material, I just have to find the time to actually READ them....
Your conversations (Richard) have prompted me to do so...........[:)]