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RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:45 pm
by MorbiusStorm
ORIGINAL: treespider

Are both pictures bogus?

If you are talking about post 15 or 16 (I think) with the zoomed out view of the carrier and the air craft out in front, it's a little harder to tell.

I'd guess its not real. My guess would be that on that picture, the carrier is accurate and real. But the plane taking off doesn't fit the norm, at all. Technically, its possible. I've seen some take-offs that cleared the flight deck and the tower.

It's been many years and I forget what the command is. But there is an order given which means abandon the tower and the deck. I've was on board once when a take off was bad and the order to clear the deck was given. People were jumping off the sides of the deck and etc. When that order is given, you don't ask, you jump. Now just off to the sides of the deck and down a little, are some nets that extend out about six feet to catch anyone. Its not like they are jumping into the ocean, but anyone that doesn't know might think they just did.

Even during that particular episode, the plane taking off did not have a trajectory resembling the plane in the picture (in post 15 or 16). I've never seen an F-14 or an FA-18 dip, ever, as it takes off the deck. Now the big mail carrying planes, that's another story. But the one in that picture just isn't right, based on anything I've seen. For it to be dipped down like that, it would definately be having some extreme mechanical issue. But the biggest issue is that all those people are standing on the deck. That screams fake to me. You just don't have flight controllers standing around up in front of the cats watching them zoom past as they take off. It just doesn't happen. So I'd say its fake.

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:51 pm
by DuckofTindalos
Why would the US Navy post an Official US Navy *FAKE* picture? Makes very very little sense, considering the subject matter.

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:54 pm
by MorbiusStorm
We're all guessing here. I don't know for a fact that it is fake. I just said it looks fake to me.

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:37 pm
by Nikademus
Isn't it rather dangerous to line up along the path of a supersonic jet being catapulted off a carrier?

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:40 pm
by DuckofTindalos
Why don't you go try it, and let us know how it turns out.[:'(]

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:42 pm
by Nikademus
i'll pass. Seems to me that this would be frowned on, on any USN CV.

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:08 pm
by aletoledo
cool photo!

amazing the amount of military/ww2 knowledge on this forum.

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:33 pm
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: aletoledo

cool photo!

amazing the amount of military/ww2 knowledge on this forum.


Yeah,yeah...militarily we *is* the fonts of all wisdom.....
Some wuz groundpounders.......
Some wuz swabbies........
Few Gyrenes..........
Several flyboys..........
Lotsa researchers and historians........
We is like a family............
One big incestuous family.........

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:36 pm
by Demosthenes
ORIGINAL: m10bob
ORIGINAL: aletoledo

cool photo!

amazing the amount of military/ww2 knowledge on this forum.


Yeah,yeah...militarily we *is* the fonts of all wisdom.....
Some wuz groundpounders.......
Some wuz swabbies........
Few Gyrenes..........
Several flyboys..........
Lotsa researchers and historians........
We is like a family............
One big incestuous family.........
Well,.. I would have preferred dysfunctional over incestuous...but that works[:D]

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:49 pm
by dtravel
ORIGINAL: Demosthenes
ORIGINAL: m10bob
ORIGINAL: aletoledo

cool photo!

amazing the amount of military/ww2 knowledge on this forum.


Yeah,yeah...militarily we *is* the fonts of all wisdom.....
Some wuz groundpounders.......
Some wuz swabbies........
Few Gyrenes..........
Several flyboys..........
Lotsa researchers and historians........
We is like a family............
One big incestuous family.........
Well,.. I would have preferred dysfunctional over incestuous...but that works[:D]

I don't know, I have this cousin. Blond, curvy in all the right places....


But in response to what someone said about its the Air Force's job to deal with air superiority I have to ask. Isn't the whole point of the aircraft carrier to put aircraft where the Air Force can't?

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:04 am
by ChezDaJez
Chez is OLD.

I resemble that remark!!![:(][:D]

My first flight in the Navy was in a P5M Mariner that had just been restored at NAS Patuxent River, MD. It was scheduled to go to some museum somewhere and was on its second checkflight. I got to go because I had helped with masking off the paint lines during my weekends. (No car, under 21... what else was there to do? Oh, yeah... Rosie's with fake ID!- but I learned about that later[:D])

My second flight was in a Navy Reserve P-2V Neptune. Do you know what can happen when you touch the plexiglas nose inflight and the atmospherics are just right? (Hint: it's a very shocking experience!!!)

Got to fly in a C-1 COD once (converted S-2 Tracker) out to the JFK for a trap and cat in the Med. You can keep that carrier aviation crap... I much prefer my 4-engined, 12-man, BIG P-3 with galley, head and bunks!

Chez

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:46 am
by whippleofd
You can keep that carrier aviation crap... I much prefer my 4-engined, 12-man, BIG P-3 with galley, head and bunks!

hehe, I've done four arrested landings on a CVN. Unfortunately, only one of them was while aboard a plane. They say you can't teach a nuc anything that is learned via common sense. *shrugs* After the third time tripping on an arresting wire jogging on the flight deck, I started avoiding that area.

Whipple

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:57 am
by TheElf
ORIGINAL: Nikademus

Can the F-18 preform long range Fleet Defense?

No. Not really.

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:58 am
by dtravel
ORIGINAL: TheElf
ORIGINAL: Nikademus

Can the F-18 preform long range Fleet Defense?

No. Not really.

How about performing long range Fleet Defense? [:'(]

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:02 am
by TheElf
ORIGINAL: dtravel

ORIGINAL: TheElf
ORIGINAL: Nikademus

Can the F-18 preform long range Fleet Defense?

No. Not really.

How about performing long range Fleet Defense? [:'(]

????[&:]

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:04 am
by dtravel
ORIGINAL: TheElf
ORIGINAL: dtravel

ORIGINAL: TheElf



No. Not really.

How about performing long range Fleet Defense? [:'(]

????[&:]

Nik asked if they could preform it, as in "form it ahead of time".

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:13 am
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: Whipple
You can keep that carrier aviation crap... I much prefer my 4-engined, 12-man, BIG P-3 with galley, head and bunks!

hehe, I've done four arrested landings on a CVN. Unfortunately, only one of them was while aboard a plane. They say you can't teach a nuc anything that is learned via common sense. *shrugs* After the third time tripping on an arresting wire jogging on the flight deck, I started avoiding that area.

Whipple

Always thought the Truxtun was a mean looking ship compared to the other conventional Belknaps.

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:13 am
by TheElf
Ahhh

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:13 am
by TheElf
ORIGINAL: Eloryn

We're all guessing here. I don't know for a fact that it is fake. I just said it looks fake to me.

Actually, some of us aren't guessing. It's real[;)]

RE: What's the significance of this?

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:12 am
by ChezDaJez
After the third time tripping on an arresting wire jogging on the flight deck, I started avoiding that area.

So..... I take it you were one of the smarter snipes?[:D][:D][:D]

Just kidding[;)], I couldn't resist![:'(]

Chez