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RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:32 pm
by greg_slith
Well, This thread was incorrectly titled. It should be BOMB MAGNET. Then I might be right. Jeesh[:'(]
ORIGINAL: Terminus

ORIGINAL: ecwgcx

How many did Yamato eat before/during Battle of Samar? She did make it back to port after Taffy 3 kicked it a$$.

None. She took a lot of bomb hits, though.

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:37 pm
by Przemcio231
Ok so i have a little riddle for you... you were searching for torpedo "Magnet"  so maybe some one know what was the smallest amount of ordanance responsible for sinking  a BB it dose not matter Shell's , Torpedos or Mines...

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:41 pm
by rtrapasso
Well, Mutsu blew up on her own... [:D]

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:44 pm
by mlees
was the smallest amount of ordanance responsible for sinking a BB it dose not matter Shell's , Torpedos or Mines...

Numerous battleships (pre and post dreadnought) have been sunk by a single mine in WW1 and (I think) the Russo-Japanese War.

For example: HMS Audacious: http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/hms_audacious.htm

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:45 pm
by Przemcio231
HMS Adacius is the Answer... she sunk after strikin an small 80 kg mine... [:D][:D][:D]  come on Pre Dreadnought were not battleships... they hull was wery week and they rearly could resist a torpedo hit[:D]

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:47 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Przemcio231

HMS Adacius is the Answer... she sunk after strikin an small 80 kg mine... [:D][:D][:D] 

i'd think zero for Mutsu would beat this... but if we are talking due to enemy action, i guess she wouldn't qualify... [:'(]

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:50 pm
by Przemcio231
Yeach Blowing up in Port do not coun't[:D][:D][:D]  any way i wounder why did Mutsu blow up...

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:52 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Przemcio231

Yeach Blowing up in Port do not coun't[:D][:D][:D]  any way i wounder why did Mutsu blow up...


Supposed to have been from unstable ammo. Some other ships (italian? russian?) are also supposed to have done the same...

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:54 pm
by Przemcio231
Any way the thoughest ships used in WWI and WWII were German BC's look at thi baby after Jutland... and still able to make it back...

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RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:04 pm
by dtravel
ORIGINAL: Przemcio231

Any way the thoughest ships used in WWI and WWII were German BC's look at thi baby after Jutland... and still able to make it back...

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Umm, aren't there supposed to be, like, turrets and guns and stuff? [;)]

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:05 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: dtravel

ORIGINAL: Przemcio231

Any way the thoughest ships used in WWI and WWII were German BC's look at thi baby after Jutland... and still able to make it back...

Image

Umm, aren't there supposed to be, like, turrets and guns and stuff? [;)]

There is the remnant of turret - but no guns... [:(]

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:07 pm
by mlees
Umm, aren't there supposed to be, like, turrets and guns and stuff?

They sorta fell overboard...

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:08 pm
by dtravel
ORIGINAL: mlees
Umm, aren't there supposed to be, like, turrets and guns and stuff?

They sorta fell overboard...

And I thought sailors were supposed to be good at knots and tying stuff down.

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:10 pm
by Nikademus
The forward guns were removed to lighten the bow after the ship was beached to prevent further sinking. Seydlitz escaped foundering by the hair of her chinny chin chin. Had she encountered some of the routinely foul North Sea weather after the battle, she probably would have had to have been abandoned.

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:24 pm
by mlees
I went and refreshed my memory from an online source.
The Seydlitz was torpedoed either by HMS Petard or HMS Turbulent, and further hit by eight 15 inch shells, six 13.5 inch shells, and eight 12 - inch shells. The worst damage came from five 15 inch shells which caused severe flooding, which nearly caused her to sink.

She must also have suffered from numerous smaller calibre hits. Somebody have the casualty count?

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:33 pm
by Terminus
Surprisingly light: 98 killed, 55 wounded, according to her commanding officer, Kapitän zur See von Egidy.

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:35 pm
by mlees
Thanks! That is surprising.

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:38 pm
by Terminus
Considering that she ate twenty-three heavy-calibre shells, yeah...

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:43 pm
by PzB74
98 killed and 55 wounded...

The Derfflinger suffered 157 killed and 26 wounded.
The Lutzow sank and suffered 'only' 115 killed and 50 wounded.

RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:07 pm
by BrucePowers
ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

ORIGINAL: Przemcio231

Yeach Blowing up in Port do not coun't[:D][:D][:D]  any way i wounder why did Mutsu blow up...


Supposed to have been from unstable ammo. Some other ships (italian? russian?) are also supposed to have done the same...


So did the USS Maine.[:D]