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RE: LBC Chichibu

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:22 pm
by John 3rd
We need to decide which one will be it. I LOVE the work. Adm Dadman is the creator. Let him make the decision. WE have the payout now so pick your favorite Sir and send it over!

DOCUP--More then happy for you to use ANYTHING from the work in the Mods. You already know this and that is why I Posted the 'tip of the hat' thread a few days ago. LOVE the corroboration between everyone.

RE: LBC Chichibu

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:23 pm
by John 3rd
Post 594 has the LBC looking like a super-sized version of the Japanese CAs while the pagoda just done above looks more like a true Japanese capital ship.

RE: LBC Chichibu

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:28 pm
by Admiral DadMan
ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Post 594 has the LBC looking like a super-sized version of the Japanese CAs while the pagoda just done above looks more like a true Japanese capital ship.
The more that I look at it and think about it, the more I remember that one of the main functions of the tall pagoda was to assist in range spotting on salvos for larger caliber guns. I think you should go with the pagoda version (check your email).

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RE: LBC Chichibu

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:08 am
by John 3rd
I've gotten the art in email. Pagoda it is then.

RE: Shifting to Allies

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:49 pm
by Lecivius
ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Could be do-able. Which in particular?

I have not looked at your numbers in this mod, so I am just offering general suggestions. P-47's were earmarked for ETO (rightfully so), and 38's were pretty labor intensive to build. Bringing in "several fighter units" is to open. Army squadrons? Marines? Marines would be easiest, just bump the Corsair production a bit. Army would probably be P-40 K and N's.

Just thinking, sorry I can't be more specific.

RE: Shifting to Allies

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:17 pm
by John 3rd
Not a bad thought at all. Others?

RE: Shifting to Allies

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:29 pm
by ny59giants
Long time ago, we 'adjusted' Allied fighter production, especially for '42 - F4F, P-38s, P-40s. There is the purchase system to add more airframes. Don't forget that PP have gone from 50 to 60 and now will be 75 to buy these 'toys.'

However, this new version will allow Japan to place 2nd gen George and Jack on CV/CVLs. To counter, I think more 2nd gen Corsairs. I would have to compare the numbers on P-47s before I would add more since they can be purchased now.

As John fondly remembers, the P-38s on sweeps destroyed his IJA fighters in mid to late 42. [:D]

RE: Shifting to Allies

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:02 pm
by John 3rd
Buying advanced aircraft out early from the off-map purchase system, as Michael demonstrated, can be terrible against the Japanese.

Good thinking Michael.

RE: Shifting to Allies

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:02 pm
by John 3rd
Tweaked Allied Fighter Production:

Navy:
F6F Hellcat +25/Month
F4U 2nd Gen Models +25/Month

Army:
P-40K/N +25/Month
P-38 +25/Month

Is that enough bump to help? Don't want to get carried away but also want a measured, useful increase.

RE: Shifting to Allies

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:05 pm
by btd64
John, AFB's, the world over thank you....GP

RE: Shifting to Allies

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:44 pm
by ny59giants
My questions on the P-38s are they have a series of models that come in with an additional factory being added. How are you increasing by 25/month? Which model gets that?

RE: Shifting to Allies

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:09 pm
by btd64
H's, I think and all models after that. [:D]....GP

RE: Shifting to Allies

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:08 am
by John 3rd
ORIGINAL: ny59giants

My questions on the P-38s are they have a series of models that come in with an additional factory being added. How are you increasing by 25/month? Which model gets that?

If they are being produced at a set amount a month, I have bumped them.

RE: Shifting to Allies

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:08 am
by Lecivius
ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Tweaked Allied Fighter Production:

Navy:
F6F Hellcat +25/Month
F4U 2nd Gen Models +25/Month

Army:
P-40K/N +25/Month
P-38 +25/Month

Is that enough bump to help? Don't want to get carried away but also want a measured, useful increase.

I can't believe I'm going to say this (die hard AFB here), but that is more than enough[;)][:'(]

Again, I don't have your recent mod updated on my PC at home. My totally off the wall 'gut' feeling would be;


Navy:
F6F Hellcat +10/Month (Hellcat production so far appears suitable, according to AAR's)
F4U 2nd Gen Models +25/Month (To make up for the mentioned squadron increases)

Army:
P-40K/N +25/Month (To make up for the mentioned squadron increases)
P-38 +10/Month (To make up for the mentioned squadron increases, while acknowledging the increased difficulty in producing these air-frames).

I would be greatly interested to see what thoughts others have.

RE: Shifting to Allies

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:21 am
by John 3rd
Michael has asked for the files. At heart he is an AFB and wants to compare the current numbers to Stock. Once he has had a chance to digest the numbers he'll Post here without fail.

LOVED your comment Lecivius! Bet that was hard to say as an AFB! [:D]

RE: Shifting to Allies

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:42 am
by btd64
Hey John, Where's the Hurricane IId model?
Also, the 9th Aussie inf div seems to have an upgrade problem. When I click on the OOB button I get a Battalion size formation.

That is all[:)]....GP

RE: Shifting to Allies

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:44 am
by btd64
ORIGINAL: Lecivius

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Tweaked Allied Fighter Production:

Navy:
F6F Hellcat +25/Month
F4U 2nd Gen Models +25/Month

Army:
P-40K/N +25/Month
P-38 +25/Month

Is that enough bump to help? Don't want to get carried away but also want a measured, useful increase.

I can't believe I'm going to say this (die hard AFB here), but that is more than enough[;)][:'(]

Again, I don't have your recent mod updated on my PC at home. My totally off the wall 'gut' feeling would be;


Navy:
F6F Hellcat +10/Month (Hellcat production so far appears suitable, according to AAR's)
F4U 2nd Gen Models +25/Month (To make up for the mentioned squadron increases)

Army:
P-40K/N +25/Month (To make up for the mentioned squadron increases)
P-38 +10/Month (To make up for the mentioned squadron increases, while acknowledging the increased difficulty in producing these air-frames).

I would be greatly interested to see what thoughts others have.

Oh the pain of it all[:D]....GP

RE: Shifting to Allies

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:57 am
by Lecivius
Yeah, I know [:D] But I want to try to keep it level [;)][:'(]

RE: Shifting to Allies

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:02 pm
by btd64
I would leave it at 25. Mostly because the George can out fly anything the Allies have in 43. Look at the Maneuver numbers....GP

RE: Shifting to Allies

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:14 pm
by btd64
John, The allied sub minelayers run out of mine at the end of 42. Maybe they should have an upgrade to the MK 12 mine? The Flying Fish class that is....GP