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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 2:09 am
by crsutton
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
I was born in 1960, so I reached adulthood during that era. The music of the time really was phenomenal, but other than that it seemed like a pretty turbulent and disturbed period. Political and social unrest was pretty pronounced, leading to the run of assassinations (JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King), the Vietnam War was polarizing and difficult and sad, politics was a mess, society in many ways was a mess. We were in a period of transition, so things were unsettled.
I few years ago (roughly 2010), I took a group of 20-somethings on a long hike in a wilderness area. On the drive home, one of them asked me if I had ever seen a time as unsettled and divisive as this now. I thought back to the Civil War, to the Jim Crowe ere (which included pretty common lynchings), to the '60s with all the protests and assassinations, to the '70s with political turmoil, gas lines, etc.) and I laughed and told them, "These are good times."
To clarify: I've never had it "bad." I've been very fortunate to live in a time and place in which there's has been mostly peace and relative tranquility. I've been mostly free to do what I wanted and to go where I wished with who I want. What's there to complain about? (Other than John's Banzai!, I mean.)
I recently tried to describe the draft to a millennial. I don't recommend it if you have no patience.
I did not know that they still had to register. My nephew was denied his student aid until he registered.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 2:12 am
by crsutton
ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin
Well you guys will be pleased to here then that they changed their name again to Czechia. [:D]
Still the Czech Republic but with a short version too. Like the United States of American, or just America for shot.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 2:53 am
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: crsutton
Like the United States of American, or just America for shot.
How appropriate! Are you the NRA representative here? [:'(]
BTW, the rest of the peoples of North and South America are just too polite to point out that they are Americans too ...
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 9:08 am
by HansBolter
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: crsutton
Like the United States of American, or just America for shot.
How appropriate! Are you the NRA representative here? [:'(]
BTW, the rest of the peoples of North and South America are just too polite to point out that they are Americans too ...
Yes, but they only have America in the name of their continent, not the name of their country.
That's the distinction that matters to we Americans.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 10:14 am
by Andav
I was in France for business and the guy I was working with asked me if I was American. It had been a really long day and without thinking I relied, "No. I am a Texan." He said, "That makes you an American as well right?" He still teases me about this. He asks me how things are in the "United State of Texas".
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 2:26 pm
by Kitakami
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: crsutton
Like the United States of American, or just America for shot.
How appropriate! Are you the NRA representative here? [:'(]
BTW, the rest of the peoples of North and South America are just too polite to point out that they are Americans too ...
Yes, but they only have America in the name of their continent, not the name of their country.
That's the distinction that matters to we Americans.
I wonder if by the same token we should start calling Mexico the "United States" too? After all, their official name is "Mexican United States" ;p
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 2:29 pm
by Canoerebel
And wtih respect to the European Union, we southerners may end up calling all members of the EU "Yankees" since "Union" is synonymous with "Yankee" as a result of our Civil War experiences and terminology.
So, Obvert, GreyJoy, Jocke, witpqs and many other Forumites are Yankees.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 2:31 pm
by Canoerebel
John Banzai III is back home but has a very busy day. I don't look for a turn from him until late tonight or tomorrow morning.
I've used his absence to get four good nights sleep in a row, a first since we resumed the game back in December. My nights have been very, very strange. I am incapable of moderating myself when it comes to AE PBEM. It's intoxicating and addicting. Thank goodness I don't have two games going.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 2:33 pm
by HansBolter
Can anyone pinpoint for me the moment in history when Texans became Texans and stopped being Texicans?
I've always wondered about that!
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 2:41 pm
by Canoerebel
I still hear Texican now and then, though it's pretty archaic.
Perhaps the term became popular at the time of the Republic of Texas and began to gradually (very gradually) fade away after Texas became a state?
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 3:39 pm
by witpqs
Can anyone pinpoint for me the moment in history when Texans became Texans and stopped being Texicans?
The year 2172 AD.
[:D]
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 12:48 am
by Canoerebel
Hey, Gents, I just remembered that today is John III's birthday. Not only that, it's his 50th! If you have a chance, drop by his AAR and wish him well.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 1:41 am
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Kitakami
I wonder if by the same token we should start calling Mexico the "United States" too? After all, their official name is "Mexican United States" ;p
And Brazil is officially the United States of Brazil.
But because the US was the first of the new world countries to become rich enough that its citizens could roam the world, most people of the world knew the citizens of the US as "Americans" because they came from "The Americas". It became common usage in time to mean US citizens because most often they were.
And it is commonly said that Canadians do not have a definition of their national identity except to say we are "NOT Americans". [:D]
And now back to our regularly scheduled AAR .... [:)]
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:46 am
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Kitakami
I wonder if by the same token we should start calling Mexico the "United States" too? After all, their official name is "Mexican United States" ;p
And Brazil is officially the United States of Brazil.
But because the US was the first of the new world countries to become rich enough that its citizens could roam the world, most people of the world knew the citizens of the US as "Americans" because they came from "The Americas". It became common usage in time to mean US citizens because most often they were.
And it is commonly said that Canadians do not have a definition of their national identity except to say we are "NOT Americans". [:D]
And now back to our regularly scheduled AAR .... [:)]
Actually most Canadians I have known and worked with said they certainly are Americans. Down south was not America, it was The States. [:D]
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 11:59 am
by Canoerebel
8/28/43
Thin Man: A remarkably quiet day in the Thin Man AOO. No sub attacks, no aircraft attacks, no sign of Steroid KB or Kongos. Mini KB is nearing Wake as though to pass on its north side. And an IJ FT TF lands part of a naval guard unit on the dot hex north of Wotje, retaking it from the tiny Allied garrison. John can use this base for patrols. I'll re-re-take it later.
The orders for the day for the Allies involve important but non-sexy logistics. Supply is up to 10k at Maloelap (a big improvement) and loading commences to remove the overstacked units there (mainly cadres of 7th USA Div., which is prepping for Ponape - the division will reorganize at Pearl over the next month or so in preparation for it's mission). I hope the APAs carring these cadres will depart Maloelap tonight. It'll probably be at least two more days before they reach Mili, unload, and then reload the troops bound for Kwaj and Roi. I think D-Day could be in five or six days. All this depending on what John does with Steroid KB. If it remains absent, Thin Man proceeds. If it returns, then the Allies probably circle the wagons to guard against the danger and then retire to Pearl when the way seems clear.
Over these next three or four days, I'll attend to supply at Ailinglaplap, Wotje and Tarawa. All of them are good but not flush.
Major ground assault units are prepping for Ponape, Kusaie and Truk. A new divisions arrives at San Fran soon. I'm weighing the prep target. Kaeving, Rabaul, Manus, and Wolei are under consideration.
Circus: John seems to have pulled his naval assets from this theater, so the Allies are moving fuel and supply further forward. Most of the transports needed for Operation Carnival are now in place. All that's missing are the carriers and combat ships. Everything else for the invasion of Amchitka is in place.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 1:58 pm
by jwolf
Seems hard to believe that the whole IJN fleet is casually withdrawing. Wouldn't it be more likely he just pulled back a little bit, hoping to draw your ships farther forward so he could pounce with a big BANZAI?
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:02 pm
by dave sindel
Canoerebel,
This is my first post in your AAR. Over the last several weeks I've read the whole thing. I am now completely current...what a fascinating game you have shared. I have really enjoyed all of the discussions, game related and other OT topics. I have learned a lot, including the proper usage of "Y'all" for example. I have two comments I'd like to share:
a) I truly admire your writing style
b) I appreciate all of the time and effort that you put into this AAR. As one of the newest members of your "Peanut Gallery" I want to express how much I thoroughly enjoy it.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:23 pm
by HansBolter
Here's hoping the action heat sup again soon.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:47 pm
by Canoerebel
Dave Sindel, thanks for the encouraging post. I'll keep doing what I've been doing as long as John keeps sending turns.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:52 pm
by Canoerebel
jwolf (and Hans), I think John pulled back Steroid KB to replenish fuel and perhaps to reorganize in light of Raikuku's damage. I think one of three things will happens next (in order of likelihood):
1. Steroid KB will replenish and immediately return to the Marshalls, so that the staring match will continue.
2. Steroid KB will await Mini KBs arrival (and replenishment) and then combine and return to the Marshalls.
3. Steroid KB will circle around on one flank or another (prbably unlikely, since the Allies have NavSearch in covering the likely vectors (from Midway, Baker, Pago Pago, Suva, etc.).
I don't think John will send KB elsewhere, in effect ceding the Marshalls to the Allies.
If Option 2 goes into effect, the Allies may have a good seven days or more before Mini KB is replenished. In that event, the invasions are on.
If Option 1 goes into effect it is more likely that the Allies will focus on supply distrubtion and troop redistribution before retiring to Pearl without any invasions. At Pearl, Death Star will combine with Bunker Hill and other newly arrived carriers to create an Enhanced Death Star that I think can go toe to toe with Steroid KB.