RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:00 pm
Why are the flappers in main induction outlets fitted with dogs
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RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:00 pm
It is quite an interesting link, by ra way. I am surprised anyone survived in those things. WWII subs I mean, not 1920's flappers.
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:07 pm
I did wonder.
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:10 pm
ORIGINAL: sprior
I did wonder.
Right...so what IS the answer?
Why are the flappers in main induction outlets fitted with dogs? I'm guessing it has something to do with not sinking. [:)]
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:17 pm
Well if you were submarine qulaified like myelf you'd know that the inuction inlet is the big pipe that air is sucked in through when the donks are running. You'd really want them dogged shut when the boat is diving...
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:20 pm
And I've finally found a diagram of our chain of command:
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:04 pm
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RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:55 pm
********In the air over Port Hedland, Nov. 16, 1942(c)*********
[X(]Santa Maria! Where are all these freaking Tojos coming from?
Morning Air attack on Port Hedland , at 57,129
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 62
Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Ic x 2
P-38F Lightning x 4
P-38G Lightning x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-38F Lightning: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
Tainan Ku S-1/A with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Tainan Ku S-1/B with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
204 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 13 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
Kaga-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 10 scrambling)
17 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and
30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
260th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 8 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and
30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
Unyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Please don't tell me the Tojo is carrier capable? How in the Hell did they get that many planes in teh air over PH when 9/10 recon shows 99% airfield destruction? They can't be LRCAP as they are scrambling, right?
[X(]Santa Maria! Where are all these freaking Tojos coming from?
Morning Air attack on Port Hedland , at 57,129
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 62
Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Ic x 2
P-38F Lightning x 4
P-38G Lightning x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-38F Lightning: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
Tainan Ku S-1/A with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Tainan Ku S-1/B with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
204 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 13 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
Kaga-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 10 scrambling)
17 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and
30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
260th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 8 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and
30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
Unyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Please don't tell me the Tojo is carrier capable? How in the Hell did they get that many planes in teh air over PH when 9/10 recon shows 99% airfield destruction? They can't be LRCAP as they are scrambling, right?
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:00 pm
Some Marine F4F's from Exmouth are in the wrong place. Doh! I skipped the airfield attacks today to go after the port facilities. D'oh! At least it was quite a good port raid. Good luck unloading anything except by amphibious TF.
Morning Air attack on Port Hedland , at 57,129
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 60
Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 18
LB-30 Liberator x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 7 destroyed [:(]
Port hits 13
Morning Air attack on Port Hedland , at 57,129
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 60
Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 18
LB-30 Liberator x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 7 destroyed [:(]
Port hits 13
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:04 pm
JJ puts up a bunch of Zeroes in the air over Broome too. They deflect a B-17 raid.
Morning Air attack on Broome , at 62,127
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
Morning Air attack on Broome , at 62,127
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:06 pm
B-24's go after the ground troops at PH and lose at least one bomber to the CAP, but do shoot down two planes and do quite a bit of damage.
Morning Air attack on 77th Infantry Regiment, at 57,129 (Port Hedland)
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 56
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 20
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
178 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Morning Air attack on 77th Infantry Regiment, at 57,129 (Port Hedland)
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 56
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 20
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
178 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:09 pm
A total of 22 more P-38 sorties (without bombers) destroy 4 more Tojo/Zeroes to the loss of one plane.
They also threw some Nells at our boys on the ground to little effect.
Thank God the medium bombers at Meekathara stayed home, they would have been slaughtered.
They also threw some Nells at our boys on the ground to little effect.
Thank God the medium bombers at Meekathara stayed home, they would have been slaughtered.
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:14 pm
I deduce from this we are really hurting their ground readiness at PH and they want the air attacks to stop.
I propose we decline to oblige. Weather permitting, we can go after PH airfield tomorrow with the heavies only and fighter sweeps. Amazing how far off the recon assessment is on enemy airfield damage with expereinced recon P-38 pilots overhead.
I propose we decline to oblige. Weather permitting, we can go after PH airfield tomorrow with the heavies only and fighter sweeps. Amazing how far off the recon assessment is on enemy airfield damage with expereinced recon P-38 pilots overhead.
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:16 pm
ORIGINAL: sprior
Well if you were submarine qulaified like myelf you'd know that the inuction inlet is the big pipe that air is sucked in through when the donks are running. You'd really want them dogged shut when the boat is diving...
Yeah, like I said, to keep from sinking. [:)] Did they tell you when you were submarine "qulaifed" where the damn LYB merchies and tankers are? [:D]
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:18 pm
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
I deduce from this we are really hurting their ground readiness at PH and they want the air attacks to stop.
I propose we decline to oblige. Weather permitting, we can go after PH airfield tomorrow with the heavies only and fighter sweeps. Amazing how far off the recon assessment is on enemy airfield damage with expereinced recon P-38 pilots overhead.
Let's go after Broome instead, I'd bet yankee dollars that's where they're based.
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:18 pm
Did they tell you when you were submarine "qulaifed
Getting your dolphins doesn't mean you can spell or type.
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:20 pm
Meanwhile, while collecting sea cucmber migration data South of Fukue-jima, SS Haddo has a bad scare when she is attacked by 12 kt PB's despite her SPCA and Univ. of Calif. flags clearly displayed.
ASW attack near Fukue-jima at 97,59
Japanese Ships
SC Ch 20
SC Ch 19
xAK Shinetsu Maru
xAK Kanzaki Maru
xAK Naniwa Maru
xAK Africa Maru
xAK Tacoma Maru
xAKL Matsutan Maru
xAKL Momoyama Maru
xAKL Kasui Maru
xAKL Kashi Maru
PB Bisaku Maru
PB Urashio Maru
PB Higashiyama Maru
PB Awa Maru
Allied Ships
SS Haddo
ASW attack near Fukue-jima at 97,59
Japanese Ships
SC Ch 20
SC Ch 19
xAK Shinetsu Maru
xAK Kanzaki Maru
xAK Naniwa Maru
xAK Africa Maru
xAK Tacoma Maru
xAKL Matsutan Maru
xAKL Momoyama Maru
xAKL Kasui Maru
xAKL Kashi Maru
PB Bisaku Maru
PB Urashio Maru
PB Higashiyama Maru
PB Awa Maru
Allied Ships
SS Haddo
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:24 pm
ORIGINAL: sprior
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
I deduce from this we are really hurting their ground readiness at PH and they want the air attacks to stop.
I propose we decline to oblige. Weather permitting, we can go after PH airfield tomorrow with the heavies only and fighter sweeps. Amazing how far off the recon assessment is on enemy airfield damage with expereinced recon P-38 pilots overhead.
Let's go after Broome instead, I'd bet yankee dollars that's where they're based.
Yes, it seems more likely they could get that many planes in the air from a field in better shape, but would they be scrambling like that on the combat report? How could they possibly get to PH in time?
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:27 pm
Radar? I know Tojos are not carrier capable. Right?
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:31 pm
That's just abstracted 'color commentary', don't take it too literally. [8D]