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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

ORIGINAL: Rodwell

Perhaps NetPlay should be cut from release and pushed back to a patch?

Not a serious consideration. Too many want to play with friends they use to play with, but whose roads have lead them far apart.
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I really like the rose.
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I thank everyone for their support.[&o] Perhaps it should be said that the pressure to finish MWIF is entirely self-generated, to meet everyone's expectations. Matrix Games has applied zero pressure, leaving the decision of when to release MWIF entirely up to me.

"roads have led them far apart", "the rose"...sounds like part of a playlist at a John Denver concert or something [:'(]

Cheers, Neilster

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

I'm very happy with the "don't release it until it's right " philosophy. But if something had to go to make the job easier, I'd suggest the AI.

I have yet to see a game with a good AI and there aren't any games that I know of that are as complicated as this one, so the task of making a good AI could be unending. When that knowledge sits alongside the observations made about the need for Netplay, it seems to me players should place their efforts into establishing communities of opponents, rather than playing against the computer.

Commercially, AI is a must. This has all been gone through ad nauseum.

TOAW 3 has a good AI. Conquest of the Aegean and Highway to the Reich have a good AI. Additionally, the AI is being helped by people with vast experience and expertise in WiF. For this, and other reasons I can't be bothered to repeat, this project is likely to have a good AI.

Cheers, Neilster

Take some time and look through the forums. Look at the screenshots. Again. And again. Fantastic progress is being made, and myself, not having the joy of being a beta tester, have found myself playing CWiF again just to scratch the itch. I now have two games going (one at home and one at work).

ORIGINAL: Neilster



Commercially, AI is a must. This has all been gone through ad nauseum.

TOAW 3 has a good AI. Conquest of the Aegean and Highway to the Reich have a good AI. Additionally, the AI is being helped by people with vast experience and expertise in WiF. For this, and other reasons I can't be bothered to repeat, this project is likely to have a good AI.

Cheers, Neilster

For curiosity sake, what is TOAW3? I am always looking for PC games with good AI.

Thanks, Michel.

ORIGINAL: micheljq

ORIGINAL: Neilster



Commercially, AI is a must. This has all been gone through ad nauseum.

TOAW 3 has a good AI. Conquest of the Aegean and Highway to the Reich have a good AI. Additionally, the AI is being helped by people with vast experience and expertise in WiF. For this, and other reasons I can't be bothered to repeat, this project is likely to have a good AI.

Cheers, Neilster

For curiosity sake, what is TOAW3? I am always looking for PC games with good AI.

Thanks, Michel.

The Operational Art of War 3. It's a Matrix game. TOAW 3 is a major improvement (especially the AI) of an established wargame construction system. It comes with dozens and dozens of scenarios in various scales and from about 1850ish to 2015ish. More can be downloaded for free.

Cheers, Neilster

TOAW is a really good game, try it if you haven´t. 

My god did I hear Operationnal Art of War?  It is a PC game I played on my first computer, an Atari 520ST, back in 1987!  I did played the first version.

WiF will be the next awesome game to last many many years.  I tried the Alpha version years back, and salivate at the progress that's been made.  This will truly be a great game.  My only reservation is the map graphics...while staying true to the original boardgame, they're a bit...less pleasing than what could be done. 
 
I WANT THIS NOW!!![:D]

ORIGINAL: geozero

WiF will be the next awesome game to last many many years.  I tried the Alpha version years back, and salivate at the progress that's been made.  This will truly be a great game.  My only reservation is the map graphics...while staying true to the original boardgame, they're a bit...less pleasing than what could be done. 

I WANT THIS NOW!!![:D]

Dude! ur killimg me with that avatar of yours.[8|]

Those ARE his real teethe!!!

ORIGINAL: werwolf



I was just saying..................when?

Funny how no one wants to answer you? The predicted dates bounce between the Origins convention and Christmas. The last 'official' prediciton was Christmas 2008, but someone with quasi-authority wrote recently 'around Christmas', which leads me to guess it will be Origins 2009 at the earliest.
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In the late 80's (ok lets say 1987) there were very few decent wargames I could play on my ZX Spectrum. Any I found I played to death.
These days there is a game a month appearing. I can't aford to buy them nor do I have the time to play them all properly?

We are living in a PC wargames age of abundance and yet people seem to be getting more short tempered that they can't have what they want right now?

Its only a game. Who cares when it comes out? It comes out when its ready.

And yes possibly I am taking liberties by calling a ZX Spectrum with 48K ram a PC.

ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14
Funny how no one wants to answer you?

Sorry for stating the obvious here, but it seems rather useless to answer these questions from this trolling character, cause if he cannot read and understand the updates on progress made by Steve why should he be able to do the same to any answers made here?

ORIGINAL: Plain Ian

Its only a game. Who cares when it comes out? It comes out when its ready.

I completely agree! As several people have written, its better for this product to come out ready, than to rush it out as was the case with EiA. Actually many people care when it comes out...just look at the title of this thread and the many responses to it. It would be nice if the developer could give a time estimation at the bottom of his very in depth and detailed monthly report. No harm in that eh? Although I doubt that will happen since I suggested it.
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ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14

ORIGINAL: Plain Ian

Its only a game. Who cares when it comes out? It comes out when its ready.

I completely agree! As several people have written, its better for this product to come out ready, than to rush it out as was the case with EiA. Actually many people care when it comes out...just look at the title of this thread and the many responses to it. It would be nice if the developer could give a time estimation at the bottom of his very in depth and detailed monthly report. No harm in that eh? Although I doubt that will happen since I suggested it.
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Sorry to disappoint you - the time estimate is given at the top of the report.

I am at a loss of words [:D]. Is reading really that hard?

Sometimes people see what they want to see.

I am fine with no estimate of when MWIF will be ready (I know others would not be) if it will prevent repeated comments on how the estimate was wrong.

When it is ready I will be to.

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Sorry to disappoint you - the time estimate is given at the top of the report.
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Very good, I appologize. Then this should be the answer given to anyone asking "when".
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Is it me, or do I sense a little deterioration in a very good and informative thread?

ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14

ORIGINAL: werwolf
I was just saying..................when?

Funny how no one wants to answer you? The predicted dates bounce between the Origins convention and Christmas. The last 'official' prediciton was Christmas 2008, but someone with quasi-authority wrote recently 'around Christmas', which leads me to guess it will be Origins 2009 at the earliest.
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I'd add that this is the kind of complaining that brought EiA to the players in a non finished looking state.
The EiA forums were full of that, all year long, for years. Only complaining people.
Let's keep on ignoring that and keep making the game advancing.