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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:14 pm
by KamilS
T86 center (Soviet)
Not too successful turn in the center either.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:16 pm
by KamilS
T86 south (Soviet)
Instead of gaining I am losing ground here.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:17 pm
by KamilS
T86 far south (Soviet)
I am sufficiently strong here.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:23 pm
by KamilS
T87 far south (German)
Unfortunately Saper abandoned idea of assaulting Astrakhan. At least for now.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:30 pm
by KamilS
T87 center (Soviet)
New units - 2 inf div, 1 inf brig
No attacks in the north, 1 successful in the center, and I have to admit I am too scared to make any move near Stalingrad.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:32 pm
by KamilS
T87 far south (Soviet)
Line of swamps was regained, so I might soon be able to send some units north.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:43 pm
by KamilS
T88 far south (German)
Not good. Saper decided to stay within striking distance to Astrakhan so I won't be able to move many troops north.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:50 pm
by Peltonx
Good thing is your tring to push, bad thing is its a long ways from Berlin.
I am guessing GHC morale is very high. GHC will be recieiving allot of troops in 43.
If during 43 your unable to move the lines, inflict real loses on the GHC OOB or inprove SHC and lower GHC morale your just not going to move lines enough before rivers freeze in 44 and the clock will easly run out long before you get to the 41 start lines.
The GHC OOB will climb during 43 unless your able to attack a min of 16 times. I have trending data before 1v1=2v1 and after. If its stays static during 43 its over other then playing out game.
The key is german infantry morale. If SHC is unable to get over all morale of the GHC infanrty in the 60's during 43, SHC is in real trouble.
The tempo of attack is just to low at this point to matter. My old numbers where based on a much much higher SHC per turn manpower #s.
OOB #'s would greatly help as no one has any hard #'s based 100% on the newest manpower numbers. I have allot of old trends based on much higher SHC #'s so I am doing some guessing.
But it doesn't look good as of now.
RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:56 pm
by KamilS
Pelton
OOB #'s would greatly help as no one has any hard #'s based 100% on the newest manpower numbers. I have allot of old trends based on much higher SHC #'s so I am doing some guessing.
Situation is bad, but far from tragic.
T88 OOB

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:57 pm
by KamilS
T88 north (Soviet)
New units - 3 inf div, 2 inf brig
If I have opportunity to attack I take it.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:59 pm
by KamilS
T88 center (Soviet)

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:01 pm
by KamilS
T88 whole south (Soviet)
I need to make decision and attack either along river Don or Caspian Sea. Too many units are idle.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:06 pm
by KamilS
T89 center (Soviet)
New units - 2 inf div, 2 inf brig
Turn of inactivity. Neither of side undertaken any manoeuvres, and overall only one attack have taken place - unsuccessful Soviet assault near Tula.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:21 pm
by KamilS
T90 north (Soviet)
New units - 2 inf div, 2 inf brig, 3 mech brig
Snow has arrived (March '43)
North-west direction is abandoned and I plan to attack near Moscow and take advantage his commitment further north.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:24 pm
by KamilS
T90 center (Soviet)
Better weather, affecting mobility of my troops to lesser extend gives me more option.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:27 pm
by KamilS
T90 south (Soviet)
Small reorganisation and attacking was possible again.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:50 pm
by KamilS
T91 north (German)
Saper wasn't idle, he was planning, and he planned well.
Vicious and successful counter-attack was launched north of Moscow. In result he managed to encircle 13 units - 1 inf corps, 11 inf div, 1 air brig.
Apart from that Germans made one more attack - hammering of 76k strong stack near Tula.

RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:09 pm
by jaw
Maybe I just can't tell from the screen shots you've posted but where's your artillery? You should have been able to build Artillery divisions since 10/42 and Rocket Launcher divisions since 12/42 but I don't see any of them. Without artillery it's not surprising you're getting no offensive traction.
RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:27 pm
by M60A3TTS
I think Kamil has had to spend his APs rebuilding the maneuver units. But your point is well taken, the presence of arty divisions or lack thereof is a fairly good barometer as to when the initiative will change hands.
Unfortuntately with no arty, that would indicate Saper may retain it into the summer.
RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:45 pm
by KamilS
jaw
Maybe I just can't tell from the screen shots you've posted but where's your artillery? You should have been able to build Artillery divisions since 10/42 and Rocket Launcher divisions since 12/42 but I don't see any of them. Without artillery it's not surprising you're getting no offensive traction.
It is like M60A3TTS said, I had to rebuild my army. I didn't have AP for artillery. I plan to build some, but spawning mechanised corps will have priority once I stop building inf div.