Matrix Games Forums

Looks like, in that terrain, getting the 14th Division there won't help. Just more troops to get smote and retreated.

I'm guessing the CAP was hell on your naval search and they didn't see squat.

None of the coast is holdable. I can't mount any credible opposition on the sea or in the air.

My defense rests upon x2 or x3 terrain because I have no air force or navy so to speak.

The troops in Vietnam for the most part will be surrounded and cut off..to fight at 1/3rd strength and starve - that is till Jan 1 1945 and the expected surrender.[;)]

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

Still holding below a 2-1 allied AV; if not this month, then next for sure

Hmmm your opponent seems to pull off pyrrhic victories .. do not be so sure .. [8D]

You have pulled off quite a turnaround extending this game. More so .. you have taught all the AFB's
the evils of an early "Hokkaido Hurricane" or invasion of the home islands [&o]

I disagree. This is showing the evils of an early "Hokkaido Hurricane" without proper strategic focus on just knocking Japan out of the war, or on mopping up all the VPs elsewhere.

Did the invasion at Nagoya really get him more VPs than if he'd captured Luzon? What about Shikoku AND Nagoya? I'm skeptical. Manila is an enormous bag of VPs.

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

It's about time!! He should be invading lots of clear terrain bases all the way to Shanghai area in the coming months. This will close off your overland supply and put your troops in jeopardy. Next, I would be having a few TFs out of Saigon bombarding your bases up and down the Vietnam coast to raise disruption of your troops and make your life there even more difficult. [:D]

I have had the pleasure of learning in this theater recently. This is not how I did it, but my opponent also didn't have the coastal bases fortified at all. I started at Soc Trang, then CRB - which failed at first, so I landed at Quinhon and liberated CRB that way. It's coming down around his ears now. Might've taken 3 weeks.

The challenge here as the Allied invader is to not outpace your logistics train.

Whatever Lowpe is doing that is making his opponent delay, it's working, I suppose.

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

Still holding below a 2-1 allied AV; if not this month, then next for sure

Hmmm your opponent seems to pull off pyrrhic victories .. do not be so sure .. [8D]

You have pulled off quite a turnaround extending this game. More so .. you have taught all the AFB's
the evils of an early "Hokkaido Hurricane" or invasion of the home islands [&o]

I disagree. This is showing the evils of an early "Hokkaido Hurricane" without proper strategic focus on just knocking Japan out of the war, or on mopping up all the VPs elsewhere.

Did the invasion at Nagoya really get him more VPs than if he'd captured Luzon? What about Shikoku AND Nagoya? I'm skeptical. Manila is an enormous bag of VPs.

Lok, I think you have the answer![&o]

Coming up this next day -- a massive all out shock attack versus Nagoya & Haiphong. Massive!

Plus another deliberate attack on Cam Ranh Bay.

Can the Empire hold?

Tune in later true believer![X(]

July 15,1944

In the deep dark night, of this momentous night, Japanese submarines do good work.

During the early morning, Nagoya is bombarded several times -- including the faux amphibious invasion bombardment exploit. Haiphong is plastered too, but the CD guns hole a ship or two.

Then comes a half hour of heavy bombing. Haiphong, Nagoya, Cam Ranh Bay get 90 percent of the hundreds of airstrikes.

Ouch.[X(]

8 Franks, eight[8|]; what shell the IJAAF has become, down a halfdozen warhawks in our only offensive air mission that went off.

Before I get to the climatic battles of the day, here is a look at Allied Ship losses (collisions were done by speedy MTBs I think):

IJN losses. You can see I am losing ships much faster than the Allies.[:D]

Oh my stars and garters! [X(]

Shock attack at Nagoya,1-2 odds,no forts, total bloodbath!

Haiphong falls to a shock attack; however the Militia doesn't retreat so the Allied Landing is still landlocked. Non-static troops retreat to Hanoi.

Cam Ranh Bay holds.

The rail lines in Vietnam along the coast are crowded, but they are slow and small. The China collapse has begun depending upon what the Allies do next.

Yesterday, I forgot to mention, B29s dropped aerial mines at Fusan, Shimoneski, and along the Yangtze River. Not very nice.[:-]

120 days of total destruction. Once my fighters were worn out...kiss the baby goodnight.[8D]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Oh my stars and garters! [X(]

Shock attack at Nagoya,1-2 odds,no forts, total bloodbath!

Can we see the whole report for that battle (starting counts & such)?

Yes, you took more casualties, but he lost a lot of capability also.

In an old job I used to do sales calls at Kawasaki Heavy in Gifu and Mitsubishi Heavy in Nagoya. That's a big chunk of industry at stake there in Nagoya. Has the loss of industry in the Home Islands been noticeable?

Cheers,
CC

ORIGINAL: witpqs


Can we see the whole report for that battle (starting counts & such)?

Ground combat at Nagoya (111,60)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 72584 troops, 968 guns, 2065 vehicles, Assault Value = 2869

Defending force 68525 troops, 932 guns, 520 vehicles, Assault Value = 1746

Allied adjusted assault: 1522

Japanese adjusted defense: 1893

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
4452 casualties reported
Squads: 57 destroyed, 362 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 56 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 32 disabled
Guns lost 69 (4 destroyed, 65 disabled)
Vehicles lost 104 (32 destroyed, 72 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1756 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 170 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 84 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 25 disabled
Vehicles lost 188 (21 destroyed, 167 disabled)

Assaulting units:
775th Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
2nd Marine Division
1st Marine Division
44th Tank Battalion
4th Armoured Brigade
7th Australian Division
4th USMC Tank Battalion
3rd NZ Armoured Sqn
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
9th Australian Division
3rd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
4th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
XIV Corps Artillery
XI Corps Artillery
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
66th Ind.Mixed Brigade
38th Ind.Mixed Brigade
9th Tank Regiment
2nd Raiding Regiment
54th/A Division
73rd Division
10th Ind.Infantry Brigade
58th Ind.Mixed Brigade
52nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
27th Tank Regiment
1st Ind.Tank Co
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
9th Ind.Mixed Regiment
18th Tank Regiment
124th Infantry Regiment
11th Tank Regiment
54th/B Division
34th Ind.Mixed Brigade
54th/C Division
67th JAAF AF Bn
9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Kanto JNAF Base Force
21st AA Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
49th JAAF AF Bn
157th JAAF AF Bn
63rd JNAF AF Unit
22nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
72nd Air Flotilla
158th JAAF AF Bn
16th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd JAAF AF Bn
77th Field AA Battalion
25th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion
29th Ind. Engineer Regiment
58th JNAF AF Unit
29th Army
20th RF Gun Battalion
8th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
96th JAAF AF Bn
Gifu JAAF Base Force

ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

In an old job I used to do sales calls at Kawasaki Heavy in Gifu and Mitsubishi Heavy in Nagoya. That's a big chunk of industry at stake there in Nagoya. Has the loss of industry in the Home Islands been noticeable?

Cheers,
CC

CC! He has earned 45.6K strategic vp from bombing![X(]

I am down to 13,400 supplies made per turn. The HI producing 5K.[8|]

July 16, 1944

Nagoya is heavily bombarded, now the Allies are up to two TF doing faux invasions.

No aerial bombing.

Haiphong falls. Nothing pursues. I lose an Iboat under construction.[:(]

Small blessings.[:D]

Early in the game, listening to Obvert, I replaced the Captains on my larger tankers. This Tonan Whaler Captain has a 74 Naval rating.[X(]

I am still shipping fuel all over, don't really need to, but it feels like the right thing to do.[:)]