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43-11-17: I hope my b25s are as coordinated as these helens.

43-11-17: Debut of the p70a w. radar.

and more p70. I am looking for some night kills. These are not full sqns of 12 planes, but rather detachments of 4. The effect of radar seems to be that all the planes of the unit show up for the fight.


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Night Air attack on Woodlark Island , at 104,133

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 7



Allied aircraft
P-40N1 Warhawk x 10
P-70A-1 Havoc x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
35th FG/40th FS with P-40N1 Warhawk (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead
418th NFS with P-70A-1 Havoc (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 7000
Raid is overhead


Some CAP have air radar

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The most odd event was the use of the emily as a night torpedo delivery system.


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Night Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
H8K2 Emily x 5



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IV x 2
P-40N5 Warhawk x 2
P-70A-1 Havoc x 1


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
AM Wollongong
LCT-361



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x H8K2 Emily launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
No.15 Sqn RNZAF with Kittyhawk IV (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
15th FG/6th NFS with P-40N5 Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
421st NFS with P-70A-1 Havoc (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar


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losses for two days...looks like the p70 may be attriting the IJ night attack.

43-11-19: First a score recap. FatR nailed a LST respply covoy at Milne bay.
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Milne Bay at 101,133, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CB Kawachi
DD Asanagi
DD Yunagi
DD Okikaze
DD Yakaze

Allied Ships
LST-19, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
LST-22, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
LST-28, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
LCI-24, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
LCI-62, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
SC PC-1084, Shell hits 1, and is sunk



Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 53% moonlight: 12,000 yards

All the ground plane loses came from a bombardment at MilneBay and another At Buna by the Maya TF.

Allied sub north of Truk put two torps into a new jap carrier. It probably will make port.
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Sub attack near Guam at 109,100

Japanese Ships
CV Renkaku, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
DD Suzunami
DD Tokitsukaze

Allied Ships
SS Sunfish



Ammo storage explosion on CV Renkaku
SS Sunfish launches 6 torpedoes at CV Renkaku
Sunfish diving deep ....
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

The emily keeps making a night run.

And china keeps bleeding....the pressure stays on.

I see that not having a restriction on cross border transfer(manchuko garrison at full pp price) has a dramatic game changing effect. I request counter balance.

The russians would have been providing supply in real life. Request u activate the russians so that I can provide supply to china. The russians will not cross border.

Sadly , I want a no rules game but the effect(manchuko garrison used in china) borks the chinese in this senario. I must also apologize to you for changing the long run effect of this game. I should have assumed command using the original house rules.

I hope I have played a good china. It is possible I am to blame for the failure. feel free to publish this request on your AAR.

Sincerly,
Paul

ORIGINAL: bigred

I see that not having a restriction on cross border transfer(manchuko garrison at full pp price) has a dramatic game changing effect. I request counter balance.

The russians would have been providing supply in real life. Request u activate the russians so that I can provide supply to china. The russians will not cross border.

Sadly , I want a no rules game but the effect(manchuko garrison used in china) borks the chinese in this senario. I must also apologize to you for changing the long run effect of this game. I should have assumed command using the original house rules.

I hope I have played a good china. It is possible I am to blame for the failure. feel free to publish this request on your AAR.

Sincerly,
Paul

FatR: I can't activate Russians right now, as I'll need to complete some troop movements before that, even with the assumption that the border won't be crossed. Will it satisfy you if USSR will be active by approximately January 10?

ORIGINAL: FatR

ORIGINAL: bigred

I see that not having a restriction on cross border transfer(manchuko garrison at full pp price) has a dramatic game changing effect. I request counter balance.

The russians would have been providing supply in real life. Request u activate the russians so that I can provide supply to china. The russians will not cross border.

Sadly , I want a no rules game but the effect(manchuko garrison used in china) borks the chinese in this senario. I must also apologize to you for changing the long run effect of this game. I should have assumed command using the original house rules.

I hope I have played a good china. It is possible I am to blame for the failure. feel free to publish this request on your AAR.

Sincerly,
Paul

FatR: I can't activate Russians right now, as I'll need to complete some troop movements before that, even with the assumption that the border won't be crossed. Will it satisfy you if USSR will be active by approximately January 10?

Will it satisfy you if USSR will be active by approximately January 10? no, I want it now.[:D]
I note IJA army hq prep for USSR so your intentions are clear. I should be given time to relocate my troops as needed anyway instead of being forced to sit still and let u maneuver across the border for a best position...

Tracker Intel: I need to switch to 2 day tracker so I want to save some data to this tread.

Email to FatR.

I do wish for u to activate the russian front to supply the chinese.

Situation dicates no futher garrantee.

If u undergarrison the front i will attack, which would be in the long term interest of the russians.

Because of the above political comments I hope u do activate the russians and I hope u do provide a goodly amount of Manchuko garrison to keep me from attacking..

ORIGINAL: bigred

Email to FatR.

I do wish for u to activate the russian front to supply the chinese.

Situation dicates no futher garrantee.

If u undergarrison the front i will attack, which would be in the long term interest of the russians.

Because of the above political comments I hope u do activate the russians and I hope u do provide a goodly amount of Manchuko garrison to keep me from attacking..

I have run many games with Active Russians and NEVER seen an Allied player act badly
When I pushed the envelope - invading Mongolia - they replied - locally - in Mongolia - until the cost
was so high I left the country

Russia and Japan cannot afford another major front in 1941 or anytime soon after that - so neither
should let it happen

But active Russians means the Japanese must garrison Manchuria - with planes not just troops - just as IRL.
IT also means the Allies can move things, control construction, etc - and that is simply the way it should be.

ORIGINAL: bigred

and more p70. I am looking for some night kills. These are not full sqns of 12 planes, but rather detachments of 4. The effect of radar seems to be that all the planes of the unit show up for the fight.


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Night Air attack on Woodlark Island , at 104,133

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 7



Allied aircraft
P-40N1 Warhawk x 10
P-70A-1 Havoc x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
35th FG/40th FS with P-40N1 Warhawk (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead
418th NFS with P-70A-1 Havoc (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 7000
Raid is overhead


Some CAP have air radar

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Have yet to see one whit of difference in the capabilities of radar equipped night fighters over conventional planes. I have the black widow now along with night F6F, corsairs, and beaufighters. All have proven to be a non factor and have no more kills over the non radar equipped planes (what few kills there are) However, any fighter unit on night CAP regardless of type will severely lessen the impact of any enemy bombing attack. My only point being don't worry about night fighters as anything will do. They have no more use than any other fighter at night. Sad but true. It is an excellent way to make use of the small New Zealand fighter units or units with 2nd line aircraft.

This was my original letter to FatR.

I see that not having a restriction on cross border transfer(manchuko garrison at full pp price) has a dramatic game changing effect. I request counter balance.

The russians would have been providing supply in real life. Request u activate the russians so that I can provide supply to china. The russians will not cross border.

Sadly , I want a no rules game but the effect(manchuko garrison used in china) borks the chinese in this senario. I must also apologize to you for changing the long run effect of this game. I should have assumed command using the original house rules.

I hope I have played a good china. It is possible I am to blame for the failure. feel free to publish this request on your AAR.

Sincerly,
Paul

I see my diplomacy is alittle off the original base when at first I did recieve a warm response.

FatR: I can't activate Russians right now, as I'll need to complete some troop movements before that, even with the assumption that the border won't be crossed. Will it satisfy you if USSR will be active by approximately January 10?

Then i began to press my original position with this:

bigred: no, I want it now.
I note IJA army hq prep for USSR so your intentions are clear. I should be given time to relocate my troops as needed anyway instead of being forced to sit still and let u maneuver across the border for a best position...

This is where I may have goofed up:

quote:

I do wish for u to activate the russian front to supply the chinese.

Situation dicates no futher garrantee.

If u undergarrison the front i will attack, which would be in the long term interest of the russians.

Because of the above political comments I hope u do activate the russians and I hope u do provide a goodly amount of Manchuko garrison to keep me from attacking..

So give me an inch and i take a mile. In my first transmission I promised not to attack then later I said I would attack. Dont ever let me be a diplomat.

Just converted tracker to 2 day tunrs. Intel made a auto load. never seen that before.

11-25-43: I am using my pre war DDs as sub killers.

They have no more use than any other fighter at night. Sad but true. It is an excellent way to make use of the small New Zealand fighter units or units with 2nd line aircraft.

I agree. Any fighter on night mission appears to disrupt bombing runs with an "accidental" kill now and then.