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Larry it seems like you have been making progress in the Crimea. Comparing the Dec 17 screen shot to the Dec 3 SS you have advanced towards Kherson. A result of the amphibious landing?

ORIGINAL: Petey
Larry it seems like you have been making progress in the Crimea. Comparing the Dec 17 screen shot to the Dec 3 SS you have advanced towards Kherson. A result of the amphibious landing?

Um.....I DID do an amphibious landing but there was no supply past the port and I didn't have enough units to follow up that landing
so it never went anywhere BUT John evidently thought I was going to do a really good push there and he moved his front line(s). So
I guess the answer is yes and maybe not. I'm not sure. We'll have to play this thing 10 times and take the average.

A nice advance none the less. And it added considerably to the length of the front line. Something the Soviets are able to handle more more than the Axis.

ORIGINAL: Petey
A nice advance none the less. And it added considerably to the length of the front line. Something the Soviets are able to handle more more than the Axis.

I think you're correct. According to the OOB display thingie I've got almost 1100 units in play. We'll have to ask John how many he's
got. He may not want to answer that, come to think of it. OPSEC and all that.

So um........I thought the idea of an invasion sounded pretty good so I did it again. In the north. John was peved I bet. I have no
idea what to do now. Stay there and follow up w/ more of the same, or get out while the getting is good?

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

ORIGINAL: Petey
A nice advance none the less. And it added considerably to the length of the front line. Something the Soviets are able to handle more more than the Axis.

I think you're correct. According to the OOB display thingie I've got almost 1100 units in play. We'll have to ask John how many he's
got. He may not want to answer that, come to think of it. OPSEC and all that.

I'm guessing that John's got more combat power than you, but spread out over fewer units. A meaningful increase in the front lines dilutes his combat power and impacts his ability to establish reserves.

If you're in supply I'd stay. It forces him to spend units to guard you; something you can afford more than he. Besides he can't risk a surprise push on your part.

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

So um........I thought the idea of an invasion sounded pretty good so I did it again. In the north. John was peved I bet. I have no
idea what to do now. Stay there and follow up w/ more of the same, or get out while the getting is good?

I was retreating from Hanko ( where I'm getting beat up....I have no idea why I'm still holding it ) and I thought I'd do a
little recon on my way to Leningrad and just happened to find an open port for once. On an impulse I grabbed it and
now I have a port in Finland. John rushed some units there and sailed his BB to a position within range. D'oh. It
looks like I'm going to get beat up like at Hanko. Sill, I kind of like the idea of having a port in Finland and I'm planning
on shipping some more people up there.

I thought I'd drive a pair of BB's over to the nearest available Axis airfield and bombard it. And hopefully there will be enough of the turn
left to put them back in the shipyard afterward. I'd hate them to get caught out in the water there.

Here's how the air war is going right now. I'm toying w/ the idea of maybe doing some airfield strikes just to peeve John. And maybe
kill some German fighters. My pilots are the George Bush type and as a result are worse than useless and I hesitate to use them that
way. Just gets them killed faster. What I like to do is schedule a lot of CS strikes and then let my AS missions to ambush the Axis
interceptors. At least that's the theory. I think that's the way it works: the bombers, the attackers, go in to the target area w/ or w/o any
escorts and the game engine finds some defending fighters nearby, I guess, and perhaps sets them as attackers on the bombers and
then the game engine looks at nearby Soviet airfields and perhaps picks out some fighters as interceptors on the Axis fighters. It's
a little complicated.

I saw the gap in the AS values for both sides and I decided that it's time to unleash the mother of all air fights. I'm going for a lot of
airfield strikes in the first round of combat this turn. I'm hoping it doesn't cause turn burn. We'll see. I'll tell you what happened.

Here's the kind of typical results I'm getting:

Here's what the air briefing display says now. Whoa.

Larry: would you kindly post a couple of screen shots of the front around Smolensk and Gorki. I'd like to see how then front line looks there. It would be interesting to see it from John's perspective also.

Thanks

Here's the front lines in T45 of the Smolensk area. It's started snowing and the frozen marshes are passable now. I've already started
moving units to their new positions so that John can't infiltrate.

This probably isn't the Gorkiy you wanted to see. I couldn't find the one w/ the other spelling.

No, the city I am interested in is spelled Gorki. It is about 3 hexes East of the front line. Your Dec 18 air briefing post showed a lot of interesting action there (behind the air brief window) but I see its in the Smolensk screen shot. Thanks

ORIGINAL: Petey
No, the city I am interested in is spelled Gorki. It is about 3 hexes East of the front line. Your Dec 18 air briefing post showed a lot of interesting action there (behind the air brief window) but I see its in the Smolensk screen shot. Thanks

It seems that you and I found it together. Well, now I know. I tried looking it up by using the 'B' hotkey and that facility always found the
Gorkiy city first. I couldn't get it to gimme the right one. Oh well, all's well that ends well.

A lot of green dot over stack hexes there in the Gorki/Smolensk area. Must still be some heavy fighting

Um........I tried to use two adjacent hexes of mine attacking one hex of his and the losses were just prohibitive and soon gave up on that.
Now I'm attacking all those places where I can get three of my hexes to be adjacent to one of his. The losses aren't so high and John's
losses are higher. We're trading shots back and forth, mostly me firing at him by attacking and him bombing me with his JU-88's and
HE-111's and there's some air-to-air and STILL the front line isn't moving.