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RE: BTSL Complete
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:31 pm
by John 3rd
The best, at the end of the war, is still the SAM:
SAM
A7M2 11/44
A7M3 4/45
A7M3-J 5/45
SAM gets the benefit of more attention but it is still a late-war naval fighter.
RE: BTSL Complete
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:38 pm
by John 3rd
CV-Variant Summary:
A6M2 to A6M5 in October 1942
JNM3a deploys April 1944 with an upgrade in October 1944
N1K2-J deploys November 1944 with an upgrade in N1K4-A in January 1945
A7M2 deploys November 1944 with upgrade in April 1945
There will be a long dry spell between A6M5 and whatever you focus research on. Look like a nightmare that could be a lot of fun for the Japanese Player.
Done. Thoughts???
RE: BTSL Complete
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:32 pm
by ny59giants
A6M5 - can she get some armor??
RE: BTSL Complete
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:02 pm
by John 3rd
Not in the design line Sir. Still love ya though...
RE: BTSL Complete
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:50 pm
by Kitakami
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
OK. Here is the Real Life George Production Line w/Year and Month:
GEORGE
N1K1-J 09/43
N1K2-J 11/44
N1K5-J 10/45
Mod GEORGE Production Line
N1K1-J 9/43
N1K2-J 11/44 (CV)
N1K4-A 1/45 (CV)
N1K5-J 10/45 (CV)
The Japanese have a chance to develop an excellent CV-Based Fighter but it will take a lot of research to bring it forward as the A6M5 tries to hold the line. We'll say that instead of moving the plane models earlier, the extra research goes into creating a model strong enough for landings on the carrier.
I know this is being anal, but I would suggest that CV-capable versions have the -A suffix, while the non-CV-capable versions have the -J suffix. Historical accuracy and all that ;p
RE: BTSL Complete
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:11 pm
by Kitakami
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
CV-Variant Summary:
A6M2 to A6M5 in October 1942
J2M3a deploys April 1944 with an upgrade in October 1944
N1K2-J deploys November 1944 with an upgrade in N1K4-A in January 1945
A7M2 deploys November 1944 with upgrade in April 1945
There will be a long dry spell between A6M5 and whatever you focus research on. Look like a nightmare that could be a lot of fun for the Japanese Player.
Done. Thoughts???
I like it. The N1K2-J can be advanced so that it comes in earlier by researching the N1K1-J first, and then changing the model in the research factories. The J2M line can also be researched, although the non-CV line might bear more fruit. Finally, the A7M is going to be a late-war plane, no doubt.
Of course there IS competition for research factories... the G5M/G8M heavy bombers, the B6N's & B7A's, the J7W... I like the predicament the Japanese player will be in. Will have to choose one or two, but can't choose them all if there is to be any serious advance.
RE: BTSL Complete
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:35 am
by John 3rd
ORIGINAL: Kitakami
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
OK. Here is the Real Life George Production Line w/Year and Month:
GEORGE
N1K1-J 09/43
N1K2-J 11/44
N1K5-J 10/45
Mod GEORGE Production Line
N1K1-J 9/43
N1K2-J 11/44 (CV)
N1K4-A 1/45 (CV)
N1K5-J 10/45 (CV)
The Japanese have a chance to develop an excellent CV-Based Fighter but it will take a lot of research to bring it forward as the A6M5 tries to hold the line. We'll say that instead of moving the plane models earlier, the extra research goes into creating a model strong enough for landings on the carrier.
I know this is being anal, but I would suggest that CV-capable versions have the -A suffix, while the non-CV-capable versions have the -J suffix. Historical accuracy and all that ;p
Great comment. Will implement that thought.
RE: BTSL Complete
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:36 am
by John 3rd
ORIGINAL: Kitakami
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
CV-Variant Summary:
A6M2 to A6M5 in October 1942
J2M3a deploys April 1944 with an upgrade in October 1944
N1K2-J deploys November 1944 with an upgrade in N1K4-A in January 1945
A7M2 deploys November 1944 with upgrade in April 1945
There will be a long dry spell between A6M5 and whatever you focus research on. Look like a nightmare that could be a lot of fun for the Japanese Player.
Done. Thoughts???
I like it. The N1K2-J can be advanced so that it comes in earlier by researching the N1K1-J first, and then changing the model in the research factories. The J2M line can also be researched, although the non-CV line might bear more fruit. Finally, the A7M is going to be a late-war plane, no doubt.
Of course there IS competition for research factories... the G5M/G8M heavy bombers, the B6N's & B7A's, the J7W... I like the predicament the Japanese player will be in. Will have to choose one or two, but can't choose them all if there is to be any serious advance.
There are BUCKETS of choices and that is something I love to add into the Mods. I do believe that this plan works. Does anyone else have comments?
RE: Aircraft Pathways
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:28 pm
by John 3rd
Have sent the files over to Michael to look at. NOTHING has been changed yet. Want him to take a look and then I'll change all the material we've talked about and then a release for people to take a look at prior to calling them finished.
RE: RA 7.9
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:34 pm
by BillBrown
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
From the Sub Thread:
ORIGINAL: BillBrown
So the USN get three that can resize and the IJN gets all of theirs?
No. You inferred. ALL pre-war US CV/CVL ships can: Lex, Sara, King's Mountain, Ely, Langley, Yorktown, Enterprise, Hornet, and Wasp. Make sense? The others come in and do their thing as per normal.
This still has not been done yet. Any chance it could get done this time?
RE: RA 7.9
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:47 am
by John 3rd
Bill: I have tried several times. Need some help from anyone on fixing this.
RE: RA 7.9
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:48 am
by John 3rd
Just got the plane upgrade paths straightened out.
Changed some of the production and research numbers better reflecting what we have been talking about.
RE: RA 7.9
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:09 am
by BillBrown
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
Bill: I have tried several times. Need some help from anyone on fixing this.
It is very easy to do, put a date of 4112 in the resize 1 box and an appropriate size,
24 for fighters, 18 for DBs and 12 for TBs.
I can do it in a few hours if you will send me the files.
My email if you want is Adm.Bill.Brown( at ) gmail (dot) com
Here is a picture
RE: RA 7.9
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:17 am
by John 3rd
I have taken that out of the Japanese groups but could easily put it in with the Allies. Think I was confused by what you were asking! Feel a bit like a dolt at the moment now that you posted the screenshot.
RE: RA 7.9
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:31 am
by Lecivius
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
Feel a bit like a dolt at the moment
RE: RA 7.9
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:49 pm
by John 3rd
Thanks for the SUPPORT Lecivius!
NOT!!!
RE: RA 7.9
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:12 pm
by John 3rd
ORIGINAL: BillBrown
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
From the Sub Thread:
ORIGINAL: BillBrown
So the USN get three that can resize and the IJN gets all of theirs?
No. You inferred. ALL pre-war US CV/CVL ships can: Lex, Sara, King's Mountain, Ely, Langley, Yorktown, Enterprise, Hornet, and Wasp. Make sense? The others come in and do their thing as per normal.
This still has not been done yet. Any chance it could get done this time?
DONE. This time FOR CERTAIN! All US Pre-War CVs and both CLV have this added to their squadrons.
BTS--BTSL 4.3
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:24 pm
by John 3rd
New files loaded and on the website for both Mods.
RE: BTS--BTSL 4.3
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:35 am
by ny59giants
ETA on updated ART files??
RE: BTS--BTSL 4.3
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:59 am
by John 3rd
Will work on that today!