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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Anyone know where these boys came from?

From Japan, I'd venture. Yep. I'm sure of it.

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

JJ starts to unload at night with some disruption (there are no dedicated CD guns as this was snap Allied landing in one day). When the sun comes up, the PT boats come back and drive off the landing force again. [:)] JJ attacks both the 503rd and 21st Marine by air and also strafes the PT boats with Zeroes. Allied bombardment mistakenly uses the dreaded 90 elevation setting on the mortars.

Ground combat at Dobo (83,116)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2306 troops, 74 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 122

Defending force 2942 troops, 30 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 84


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Assaulting units:
503rd Parachute Rgt /1
21st Marine Rgt /4
F Det USN Port Svc /1
1st USN Naval Construction Battalion
3rd USN SeaBees /2

Defending units:
2nd Raiding Regiment
16th Div /1
17th Medium FA Rgt /1

Glad to see your opponent's are striving for historical accuracy in the game. Committing piecemeal Japanese forces *just shy* of their actual needs, getting them shot up and then underestimating your capabilities again when they reinforce failure. [8|]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Japanese Ships
BB Musashi, Shell hits 2
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 2
DD Shirayuki
DD Hatsuyuki, Shell hits 1
DD Ushio
DD Satsuki
DD Yuzuki

Allied Ships
CL Leander
CL Detroit, Shell hits 1
DD Nicholas
DD Wilson
DD Balch [/color]

Wow. What gives? Was the Musashi et. al. in for a bombardment run rather than a surface fight? Otherwise, I'd expect them to have mopped the tatami with you guys.

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Anyone know where these boys came from?

From Japan, I'd venture. Yep. I'm sure of it.

Not so fast..they might have been Tannanese mercenaries in the employ of M&M.

I was hoping for a little more precision. Did they come from China, the PI, Malaya? Where do they start out in Scenario 2?

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Japanese Ships
BB Musashi, Shell hits 2
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 2
DD Shirayuki
DD Hatsuyuki, Shell hits 1
DD Ushio
DD Satsuki
DD Yuzuki

Allied Ships
CL Leander
CL Detroit, Shell hits 1
DD Nicholas
DD Wilson
DD Balch [/color]

Wow. What gives? Was the Musashi et. al. in for a bombardment run rather than a surface fight? Otherwise, I'd expect them to have mopped the tatami with you guys.

It could have been a bombardment mission but the LYB's were spotted by Allied radar and taken under fire via torpedo attack without response till the range closed to 2000 yds on a moonless night. At that point, the wise Allied commander made smoke and increased range. Both forces broke off by apparent mutual consent. I think it was some kind of bushido thing. I have never seen that before (except in PT attacks) a stealth torpedo attack with no gunfire to alert the enemy. I wonder how many duds we had?

Reduced sighting due to 0% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 0% moonlight: 12,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
Allies open fire on surprised Japanese ships at 8,000 yards
CL Detroit launches Torpedoes at BB Musashi at 8,000 yards
CL Detroit launches Torpedoes at CA Ashigara at 8,000 yards
DD Balch launches Torpedoes at BB Musashi at 8,000 yards
DD Wilson launches Torpedoes at BB Musashi at 8,000 yards
DD Wilson launches Torpedoes at DD Ushio at 8,000 yards
DD Wilson launches Torpedoes at DD Hatsuyuki at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
BB Musashi engages CL Detroit at 2,000 yards
CL Leander engages CA Ashigara at 2,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Balch at 2,000 yards
DD Wilson engages DD Shirayuki at 2,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Nicholas at 2,000 yards

.....

Range increases to 12,000 yards
CL Detroit engages CA Ashigara at 12,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Leander at 12,000 yards
DD Nicholas engages DD Yuzuki at 12,000 yards
DD Balch engages DD Satsuki at 12,000 yards
DD Ushio engages DD Balch at 12,000 yards

Task forces break off...

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

JJ starts to unload at night with some disruption (there are no dedicated CD guns as this was snap Allied landing in one day). When the sun comes up, the PT boats come back and drive off the landing force again. [:)] JJ attacks both the 503rd and 21st Marine by air and also strafes the PT boats with Zeroes. Allied bombardment mistakenly uses the dreaded 90 elevation setting on the mortars.

Ground combat at Dobo (83,116)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2306 troops, 74 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 122

Defending force 2942 troops, 30 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 84


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Assaulting units:
503rd Parachute Rgt /1
21st Marine Rgt /4
F Det USN Port Svc /1
1st USN Naval Construction Battalion
3rd USN SeaBees /2

Defending units:
2nd Raiding Regiment
16th Div /1
17th Medium FA Rgt /1

Glad to see your opponent's are striving for historical accuracy in the game. Committing piecemeal Japanese forces *just shy* of their actual needs, getting them shot up and then underestimating your capabilities again when they reinforce failure. [8|]

In fairness, I dont think the bulk of their force got ashore. I imagine there is some frustration that after 3 days of landing attmepts, their force is not completely ashore yet.


By ra way, pretend I didn't read the manual and can't remember what hotkey to push...is there a defender bonus on Dobo? It's kinda green so it looks all jungly.

Please don't confuse junglies and jubblies, they are different.

In other news, Stalker fired The Mayan for "insubordination" [:D][:D]

I really shouldn't laugh but having estrogen as a neurotransmitter must be quite a challenge. I'm not saying testosterone is harmless either...but still.

In fairness, it was 60% The Mayan's fault, 30% Stalker Junior and 10% Stalker Girl. You will note this adds to 100% so I am completley blamess.

I think I probably had $400-500 of clothes and towels destroyed by The Mayan. I will admit some blame for letting it go on too long out of loyalty to the The Mayan....and truth be told...for entertainment value. I did warn her "favor de no tocar la ropa" but she was compelled to tweak "la senora".

I wonder if there are any French maids aroudn here?

ORIGINAL: sprior

Please don't confuse junglies and jubblies, they are different.

Well, they do have a "BB" cup involved in the struggle for Dobo, no?

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Japanese Ships
BB Musashi, Shell hits 2
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 2
DD Shirayuki
DD Hatsuyuki, Shell hits 1
DD Ushio
DD Satsuki
DD Yuzuki

Allied Ships
CL Leander
CL Detroit, Shell hits 1
DD Nicholas
DD Wilson
DD Balch [/color]

Wow. What gives? Was the Musashi et. al. in for a bombardment run rather than a surface fight? Otherwise, I'd expect them to have mopped the tatami with you guys.

It could have been a bombardment mission but the LYB's were spotted by Allied radar and taken under fire via torpedo attack without response till the range closed to 2000 yds on a moonless night. At that point, the wise Allied commander made smoke and increased range. Both forces broke off by apparent mutual consent. I think it was some kind of bushido thing. I have never seen that before (except in PT attacks) a stealth torpedo attack with no gunfire to alert the enemy. I wonder how many duds we had?

Reduced sighting due to 0% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 0% moonlight: 12,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
Allies open fire on surprised Japanese ships at 8,000 yards
CL Detroit launches Torpedoes at BB Musashi at 8,000 yards
CL Detroit launches Torpedoes at CA Ashigara at 8,000 yards
DD Balch launches Torpedoes at BB Musashi at 8,000 yards
DD Wilson launches Torpedoes at BB Musashi at 8,000 yards
DD Wilson launches Torpedoes at DD Ushio at 8,000 yards
DD Wilson launches Torpedoes at DD Hatsuyuki at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
BB Musashi engages CL Detroit at 2,000 yards
CL Leander engages CA Ashigara at 2,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Balch at 2,000 yards
DD Wilson engages DD Shirayuki at 2,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Nicholas at 2,000 yards

.....

Range increases to 12,000 yards
CL Detroit engages CA Ashigara at 12,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Leander at 12,000 yards
DD Nicholas engages DD Yuzuki at 12,000 yards
DD Balch engages DD Satsuki at 12,000 yards
DD Ushio engages DD Balch at 12,000 yards

Task forces break off...

I'd say your biggest dud was the TF commander who launched at 8000 yds when he should have had the cojones to wait until he was at 2000 yards. OTOH, he did slap a huge opponent in the face and get away with it. I bet the Musashi's crew are some peeved that they have to touch up the paint on their shiny new battleship. Come to think of it, since this is Musashi's first appearance her experience level is likely quite low which might explain her lack of success. No such excuse for Ashigara though!

ORIGINAL: sprior

Please don't confuse junglies and jubblies, they are different.

Very well, please clarify. Does either have some homology with "jugs"?

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

You will note this adds to 100% so I am completley blamess.

You obviously haven't read the manual on females.

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

I'd say your biggest dud was the TF commander who launched at 8000 yds when he should have had the cojones to wait until he was at 2000 yards. OTOH, he did slap a huge opponent in the face and get away with it. I bet the Musashi's crew are some peeved that they have to touch up the paint on their shiny new battleship. Come to think of it, since this is Musashi's first appearance her experience level is likely quite low which might explain her lack of success. No such excuse for Ashigara though!

Excellent point about Musashi's exerience level. I take it you are saying it can be Musashi in Dec 42 in scenario 2?

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

You will note this adds to 100% so I am completley blamess.

You obviously haven't read the manual on females.

Like there is one. [:)]

I have never done Scenario 2 but IIRC from Scenario 1, Dec. 1942 is when Musashi puts up the Emperor's portrait and glues on the Chrysanthamum.

Edit - OK I started up Scenario 2 and Musashi does become available 01Dec42. Other recent arrivals you will be interested in:

CVE Chuyo - 27 A/C, 21 kts - Nov. 25
CVL Ryuho - 31 A/C, 26 kts - Nov. 28
Of course he may still be building the aircraft they need ...[:D]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

You will note this adds to 100% so I am completley blamess.

You obviously haven't read the manual on females.

Like there is one. [:)]

You didn't get one then? I would lend you my copy but it's in ancient Mayan.

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

You will note this adds to 100% so I am completley blamess.

You obviously haven't read the manual on females.

Gawd, LOL ... Stuff like this is white it took me about 3 weeks and a case of beer to read this AAR.

Keep up the entertainment, gents!

Doesn't matter what the manual says- get involved in an argument between two females and they'll both turn on you and it'll be 100% your fault.

(P.S. for future reference the manual says )
1. She is always right
2. Refer to rule 1.

ORIGINAL: Itdepends

Doesn't matter what the manual says- get involved in an argument between two females and they'll both turn on you and it'll be 100% your fault.

(P.S. for future reference the manual says )
1. She is always right
2. Refer to rule 1.

Note that this manual was written by a woman. When someone suggested she may have been biased she referred to rule 1 and the discussion was closed.

There have been editions which changed the title from "Manual on women" to "Manual on how to survive around women". This second version was written by a man, though he was no expert in the field. He was killed when his wife discovered the book.

And then men remarried - The triumph of hope over experience.