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<type>Add</type>
<summary>Please add the brazilian IAI-Heron.</summary>
<detail>
The brazilian airforce now operates two IAI-Herons, that were previously operated by the brazilian federal police. They seem to be each in a different configuration, and one of them seems to be equipped with a radar and some other remote sensing equipment besides the FLIR (lumps under the fuselage and on top of the nose), probably an ELINT suite. The radar is most likely the same as the one used in the australian Heron.

1x
Performance, sensors and etc. the same as the australian one + ELINT

1x
Performance, sensors and etc. the same as the 2006 israeli Heron (FLIR only)

</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1QeG5WFG74
https://forcaaerea.com.br/arp-heron-i-e ... 1o-7o-gav/
https://www.aereo.jor.br/2020/09/18/avi ... i-heron-i/
https://www.aereo.jor.br/2019/06/19/iai ... uav-heron/
</evidence>

<type>Add</type>
<summary>Please add the brazilian Hermes-450 UAVs.</summary>
<detail>

The brazilian airforce operates at least two Hermes-450 UAVs. At least one of them is equipped with an under fuselage radar instead of the optical sensors. The radar is in all likelyhood a SELEX T-20, as this seems to be the only radar mentioned as being integrated into the Hermes 450.

Performance details the same as any other Hermes 450.

At least 1x
FLIR/EO suite

At least 1x
SELEX Gabbiano T-20 Radar. X-Band, 160NM range.


</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1QeG5WFG74
https://www.leonardocompany.com/en/prod ... rne-radars
https://www.fab.mil.br/noticias/mostra/ ... 20simulado
https://www.brasilemdefesa.com/2013/05/ ... s-450.html
https://www.fab.mil.br/noticias/mostra/ ... 3%ADmpicos
</evidence>

<type>Add</type>
<summary>Please, consider adding the MQ-9B SeaGuardian</summary>
<detail>
A new version in the MQ-9 family. This particular one is offered as a maritime patrol UAV/UCAV.

Equipment carried:


- Lynx SAR (AN/APY-8)
- MTS-B EO/IR turret
- SeaVue XMC ISAR in an under fuselage pod or in alternative - Sea Spray 7500E maritime radar in an under fuselage pod
- Sage 750 ESM
- Potential to carry 2 to 4 sonobuoy dispenser pods for ASW, each pod is provisioned for 10 A-sized sonobuoys or 20 G-sized ones
- Increased endurance for up to 40h airborne time

Currently 2 airframes are leased by the Indian Navy, with plans to buy up to 30 such platforms. Other potential customers include the Japanese Coast Guard and the Hellenic Coast Guard.



</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... customers/
https://www.ga-asi.com/remotely-piloted-aircraft/mq-9b
https://www.ga-asi.com/ga-asi-integrate ... eaguardian
https://www.ga-asi.com/leonardo-seaspra ... eaguardian
https://www.ga-asi.com/ga-asi-completes ... processing
https://www.ga-asi.com/ga-asi-conducts- ... s-in-japan
https://www.ga-asi.com/ga-asi-concludes ... -in-greece
https://www.businessinsider.in/defense/ ... 430469.cms
</evidence>

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Increase speed of SPEAR 3</summary>
<detail>The SPEAR 3 missile's (#3530) speed should be 600 knots instead of 400. The missile is reported as being high subsonic and it would match the speed of the EW variant SPEAR EW (#3690) in the database.</detail>
<evidence>https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/spear-3/
https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/spear-missile-system/
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... ish-f-35b/
</evidence>

<type>Update</type>
<summary>AIM-120D for UK F-35Bs</summary>
<detail>The first 2 British F-35B DB entries (#1095, #4947) should use AIM-120Ds instead of AIM-120C-5s. Approx 200 AIM-120Ds were purchased for the F-35 fleet to use as integration costs were low and it increases interchangeability with USMC F-35Bs when operating together. Until Meteor integration later on.</detail>
<evidence>
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-to-s ... -missiles/
https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major- ... ile-amraam
https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-wing ... 99.article
</evidence>

<type>Update</type>
<summary>UK F-35B loadout tweaks</summary>
<detail>A number of weapons are listed under aircraft stores for all UK F-35Bs (#1095, #4947, #4699) that haven't been acquired/won't be integrated. Please remove 25mm GAU-22/A, Brimstone 2, AIM-120C-5, CPU-123, GBU-24E/B, and Storm Shadow. None of these weapons are planned for integration and have just been carried over from the Typhoon FGR.4 loadouts.</detail>
<evidence>
https://questions-statements.parliament ... 1-17/60456
http://www.janes.com/article/57304/stor ... ation-plan
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/current ... -35b-jets/
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-to-s ... -missiles/
</evidence>

<type>Update</type>
<summary>SPEAR EW range reduction to 240nmi</summary>
<detail>SPEAR EW (#3690) is listed as having a 500nmi range in the DB which is way too much considering the normal variant , SPEAR 3, only has an 80nmi range. The 500nmi range is carried over from the MALD-J I think which is the closest western counterpart to SPEAR EW. The only reference I can find to range is that is approx 3 times that of the normal missile, so about 240nmi.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/spear-missile-system/ "SPEAR-EW has been reported as having three times the range of the normal version whilst retaining physical compatibility to ease of aircraft integration..."
</evidence>

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Protector UAV tweaks</summary>
<detail>Protector (#4724) should have its name changed to 'Protector RG.1' as per standard naming conventions in the RAF. All 3 weapons (Brimstone 2 Dual-Mode #3589, Brimstone Dual-Mode #2251, GBU-49/B Paveway II #2061) should be removed from its stores because none of them have been integrated. As a side note, Brimstone 2 Dual-Mode (#3589) should be removed from the DB because it's not an actual variant of Brimstone, it's an accidental amalgamation of 2 variants. Instead, Brimstone 2 (#3035) and Paveway IV (#519) should be added. Loadouts should be either 18 Brimstone 2, or 12 Brimstone 2 and 2 Paveway IV.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.flightglobal.com/military-u ... 54.article
https://www.flightglobal.com/military-u ... 04.article
</evidence>

ORIGINAL: TwarVG

<type>Update</type>
<summary>SPEAR EW range reduction to 240nmi</summary>
<detail>SPEAR EW (#3690) is listed as having a 500nmi range in the DB which is way too much considering the normal variant , SPEAR 3, only has an 80nmi range. The 500nmi range is carried over from the MALD-J I think which is the closest western counterpart to SPEAR EW. The only reference I can find to range is that is approx 3 times that of the normal missile, so about 240nmi.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/spear-missile-system/ "SPEAR-EW has been reported as having three times the range of the normal version whilst retaining physical compatibility to ease of aircraft integration..."
</evidence>

Additional info from MBDA says 420 km

<type>Amend</type>
<summary>#3035 - Brimstone 2 and #2251 - Brimstone Dual-Mode - Add LST sensor in addition to MMw radar</summary>
<detail>
#3035 - Brimstone 2
and
#2251 - Brimstone Dual-Mode -
ADD SENSOR
1x Laser Spot Tracker 15 nm LST, Laser Spot Tracker Surface Search, Ground Search (Fixed), Ground Search (Mobile), Heading Info

In addition to the current sensor and guidance:
Guidance Type: Inertial (INS) mid-course plus Active Radar Homing (ARH) terminal guidance
SENSORS
1x Active Radar Seeker 5 nm Weapon Seeker, Active Radar Early 2000s Technology, Surface Search, Ground Search (Fixed), Ground Search (Mobile), Range Information, Speed Information, Heading Info
Operating bands (search & track): M


Checking Brimstone DM and Brimstone 2 in the DB3k as a result of the prior requests and they are missing the crucial dual mode,

Brimstone 2 essentially is the evolved production variant of the Brimstone DMS (Dual Mode Seeker) research programme which was working toward creating the Brimstone 2, DMS was pushed into early use due to an urgent operational requirement for Afghanistan and the intervention in Libya.

Brimstone DMS had a dual SALH and MM wave radar sensor to permit use against a much wider set of targets and tighter rules of engagement for pinpoint targets.

Brimstone 2 evovled from this technology so there would be no need for a Brimstone 2 "Dual Mode" as Brimstone 2 has a dual mode seeker by default.

In its current DB3K entity the Brimstone DM and Brimstone 2 have just MM wave radar seeker, ideally it should emulate the JAGM entry #3529 which has both radar and a Laser spot tracker?

From the MBDA Brimstone* product brochure: https://www.mbda-systems.com/?action=fo ... t_id=18765

"The system can be operated in three modes, each providing
flexibility and proven high confidence in mission success:
Mode 1: Semi-Active Laser (SAL) guidance, to engage static
targets with limited or no radar cross section (RCS)
Mode 2: Both SAL and Millimetric Wave radar guidance for fast
moving targets in cluttered environments
Mode 3: Fire-and-forget simultaneous target engagement" (i.e radar only)

*interestingly it appears MBDA dont differentiate Brimstone 2 from the earlier version presumably because only Brimstone 2 is in production.

</detail>

<evidence>
http://www.mbda-systems.com/mbda/site/r ... E_416.html
</evidence>

Brimstone 2 is an important weapon in the UK inventory which would benefit from the amendment,
and Brimstone Dual Mode (DMS) is most likely not still in service having been superseded by Brimstone 2.

I doubt whether MBDA/RAF/MoD would be supporting both types from a cost/logistics perspective?

#3589 - Brimstone 2 Dual-Mode is only used in two loadouts #27245 and #27246 for the:
#4724 - Protector MALE UCAV [MQ-9B] (United Kingdom - 2019) so relatively "easy" to remove and still maintain backward compatibility.



Thanks

K

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Update Super Tucano Endurance, add RWR, countermeasures and Missile Warning System </summary>
<detail>
Currently both A-29A and A-29B have the same 555kg fuel capacity of 550kg. While this is correct for the A-29B biplace version, the A-29A carries around 80 gallons of extra fuel.
Units affected: #1840, #4823, #4825.

Currently all Super Tucanos in game lack a countermeasure dispensing system, as well as RWR and MAWS. The aircraft possess all three of these systems.
According to Embraer the Super Tucano is equiped with two CMDs with 30 rounds each.
Units Affected: #4354, #1839, #1840, #2254, #3465, #3745, #4823, #4825.

The brazilian monoplace Super Tucano A #1840 is currently missing the A/A loadout present in the the A29-B (db #21791). I recently made a post regarding super tucano
loadouts but didn't realize this one was also missing. Loadout is 2x MAA-1 Piranha + 3x 330 Liter drop tank.
Units Affected: #1840

</detail>

<evidence>
https://defense.embraer.com/br/pt/super-tucano/
https://web.archive.org/web/20130408131 ... =ADA510401
https://www.flyingmag.com/news/super-tu ... irventure/
</evidence>

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add TTNT Datalink</summary>
<detail>Looks like legion pods can now be datalinked together and with IRST21 (Super Hornets)using at TTNT datalink. Additionally may want to look at how F-22's and F-15's are linked with Talon Hate pods.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/4 ... -targeting
</evidence>

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add JAGM, Hellfire K1 and R loadout to UK Apache's from 2023</summary>
<detail>UK Apache JAGMS ordered and will be Hellfire K1 and R capabile. Add loadouts to #4842 and any follow-on to #2044. No idea if it actually replaces Brimstone</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... for-apache
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-conf ... che-fleet/
</evidence>

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add new KCR-60M #2682 with A220 Deck Guns. 629 Tombak [KCR-60M] Indonesia 2021</summary>
<detail>Indonesia purchased A220 deck guns for KCR-60M Units. Replaces Bofors. Units 629 Tombak and 630 Halasan. You can find the same deck gun on #2890 (Bykov). Generic directors like Bykov will be fine until they're known.Second link shows the 220 mount.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... tack-craft
https://www.indomiliter.com/kri-tombak- ... tan-rusia/
</evidence>

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Izumo's receing RAM Block II missiles (2021)</summary>
<detail>Japan upgraded RAM systems to RAM Block II. Izumo class #2442 is the first.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major- ... l-missiles
https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/c ... unching_a/
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... -missiles/
https://www.defenseworld.net/news/29243 ... ey__U_A_E_
</evidence>

<type>Add</type>
<summary>Chinese Type 54 Jiangkai MLU #1682 2021</summary>
<detail>Only a class of 2 shops but #1682 Type 54 Jiangkai I [525 Manshan] completed MLU in 2021. Replace HQ-7 with 24 round HQ-10. ESM and ECM updated to 726 which seems to be standard ECM for most Chinese Combatants now. New decoy launchers 8x3 (current fit probably ok). CIWS is PJ-13 which is a copy of AK-630M (look at Type 022) very small CIWS not beefy. PJ-13 is the Chinese designation. Likely has the VDS (same as other 054/056). First one seems completed, Manshan. </detail>
<evidence>
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/type ... 9/page-499
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/type ... 9/page-502
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/type ... 9/page-501
https://twitter.com/stoa1984/status/140 ... 26/photo/1
</evidence>

This reminds me that as per a prior request the #2890 (Bykov) Vasily Bykov shouldn't have 57mm A-220 as in reality it has a 76mm AK-176MA forward AND the containerised Club launchers are very much a "can be fitted" but aren't in reality option.
There's no evidence of the Gibka SAM SA-N-24 or similar mounted launcher either in any images of the real ships so far despite a lot of articles saying they're meant to have it.
From TV documentaries the stern area is used for an Pr.02800 10m fast assault craft and dimensionally it's a case of either the fast boat or SSM containers, but not both.

The current Db3k Bykov could be branded hypothetical "future war footing" as it's incarnation in the DB doesn't accurately represent the real vessels which have a primarily constabulary role in peacetime but I think it's been included in one of the LIVE (King of the Border?) scenarios making it less easy to amend without skewing the scenario.

A bit like USCG cutters with provision for Harpoon capability the Bykov's would only get heavily armed in the event of a well signalled escalation in hostilities.

For evidence watch the following TV documentary (possibly on mute).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljjQwbaXWx0

Thanks.
K

ORIGINAL: BDukes

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add new KCR-60M #2682 with A220 Deck Guns. 629 Tombak [KCR-60M] Indonesia 2021</summary>
<detail>Indonesia purchased A220 deck guns for KCR-60M Units. Replaces Bofors. Units 629 Tombak and 630 Halasan. You can find the same deck gun on #2890 (Bykov). Generic directors like Bykov will be fine until they're known.Second link shows the 220 mount.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... tack-craft
https://www.indomiliter.com/kri-tombak- ... tan-rusia/
</evidence>

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Type 056 Updates. ESM-ECM, Satcom and PJ-13 gun downgrade</summary>
<detail>Add ESM-ECM. 326 set common on Chinese surface combatants Believe it or not some 056 didn't receive PJ-13 guns but standard 12.7mm instead (cost?). Sat com updates as well but didn't matter for CMO yet. Graphic on link 2 will drive you bonkers but each variant may not be CMO relevant. </detail>
<evidence>
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/type ... 9/page-338
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/type ... 9/page-345
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/type ... 9/page-350
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/type ... 9/page-348
</evidence>

ORIGINAL: KLAB

This reminds me that as per a prior request the #2890 (Bykov) Vasily Bykov shouldn't have 57mm A-220 as in reality it has a 76mm AK-176MA forward AND the containerised Club launchers are very much a "can be fitted" but aren't in reality option.
There's no evidence of the Gibka SAM SA-N-24 or similar mounted launcher either in any images of the real ships so far despite a lot of articles saying they're meant to have it.
From TV documentaries the stern area is used for an Pr.02800 10m fast assault craft and dimensionally it's a case of either the fast boat or SSM containers, but not both.

The current Db3k Bykov could be branded hypothetical "future war footing" as it's incarnation in the DB doesn't accurately represent the real vessels which have a primarily constabulary role in peacetime but I think it's been included in one of the LIVE (King of the Border?) scenarios making it less easy to amend without skewing the scenario.

A bit like USCG cutters with provision for Harpoon capability the Bykov's would only get heavily armed in the event of a well signalled escalation in hostilities.

For evidence watch the following TV documentary (possibly on mute).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljjQwbaXWx0

Thanks.
K

ORIGINAL: BDukes

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add new KCR-60M #2682 with A220 Deck Guns. 629 Tombak [KCR-60M] Indonesia 2021</summary>
<detail>Indonesia purchased A220 deck guns for KCR-60M Units. Replaces Bofors. Units 629 Tombak and 630 Halasan. You can find the same deck gun on #2890 (Bykov). Generic directors like Bykov will be fine until they're known.Second link shows the 220 mount.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... tack-craft
https://www.indomiliter.com/kri-tombak- ... tan-rusia/
</evidence>

They are nice-looking ships for sure. I'm pretty sure I recognize your username from SPMBT or some other game as well so I know you know your stuff!

My take is updates are significantly behind but also know the beta versions could be ahead. So I just try and add stuff the way they like it with links and have faith they'll get there someday. Lot of stuff you can manually change but it does add a new layer or work to scenario development (checking over units). it is what it is.[8D]

Mike

Could you add the new SAAB RB 15 Mk4 "Gungnir" anti ship missile?

https://www.saab.com/products/the-rbs15-family
https://www.naval-technology.com/projec ... p-missile/
https://www.saab.com/sv/newsroom/press- ... omalsrobot