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RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:53 am
by sprior
Admiral Lord SPrior, Admiral Lord SPrior, they are making fun of us again!
Remember what we said about not being a big girl's blouse?
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:27 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: sprior
Admiral Lord SPrior, Admiral Lord SPrior, they are making fun of us again!
Remember what we said about not being a big girl's blouse?
Oh...OK...<kicks ground>...I s'pose Dirty Harry would not tattle.
JJ Defences near Darwin. I think we can have Darwin airfield shut down. Not sure if we have the bombers or time to shut down Wyndham. We could put some B-24's at Tennant and hit Koepang but there isn't enough supply for an air campaign from there. Katherine may not have avatiation support. There are two naval chokepoints in the approach to Darwin. we can mine the westerly one and put PT boats and small SCTF's at both to slow down the LYB big boys.
Perhaps we can break up the big landing group (after the relentless and mean-spirited bullying we have endured) and send in only the infantry and naval support on day 1?

What you can do...
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:41 pm
by Cap Mandrake
RE: What you can do...
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:55 pm
by Chickenboy
(sniff)...I'm just disappointed that the Lord Admiral didn't catch my Eagles reference...(sniff)...
Alright, for a constructive suggestion for once:
IJA 20th Division can be in Darwin in 3 days via strat movement on the railway, assuming that they're not 'tied up' with Allied ground forces in the same hex. Do you have any pending ground attack plans to keep the 20th Div out of Strat mode at Katherine?
I like your idea about idea about mining the western approaches to Darwin. That appears to be the more likely avenue through which he will approach with his SCTF heavies.
What are the stats on the Wyndham airfield? Any planes noted? As this is 7 hexes from Darwin, Naval Attack planes based here would be able to attack shipping in the Darwin hex. The "Western Approaches" sea hex too.
In my previous "dealings" with the Allies in N. Australia and the fighting in and around Darwin and Katherine, Wyndham has been extremely important as a Japanese supply hub. Have you detailed a few units to move West out of Katherine and cut the trail?
RE: What you can do...
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:17 pm
by sprior
I'm just disappointed that the Lord Admiral didn't catch my Eagles reference
I did. I just chose to ignore it after your gratuitous meanness. (Joking! Honest).
RE: What you can do...
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:27 pm
by Chickenboy
[8D]
RE: What you can do...
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:31 pm
by Chickenboy
Reminds me that we're coming across a number of "anniversaries" soon:
Beirut conflict (Western involvement anyways) in 1982-circa 30 years. Invasion of Grenada in 1983. Desert Storm (20 years), etc. Fifty years since American scale up in Vietnam. 11 years in Afghanistan (!).
In some ways the 20th century rocked. In some ways, it really sucked.
RE: What you can do...
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:34 pm
by Itdepends
RE 20th division- if Fenton (dot base between Darwin and Katherine) isn't occupied you can slow down it's move to Darwin via a paradrop there.
If you expect interdiction by SCTF then by all means send in everything at once- but with such a large TF expect collisions if it runs into opposition during the run in to landing.
Hopefully you've got their routing set to direct and absolute threat tolerance.
If you're gonig to mine the western approaches you'll need more than a few sub laid mines to give you anything more than a warm and fuzzy feeling- got some DM's or a fast CM?
Looking forward to seeing the fireworks.
Cheers,
Daniel
RE: What you can do...
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:53 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
Reminds me that we're coming across a number of "anniversaries" soon:
Beirut conflict (Western involvement anyways) in 1982-circa 30 years. Invasion of Grenada in 1983. Desert Storm (20 years), etc. Fifty years since American scale up in Vietnam. 11 years in Afghanistan (!).
In some ways the 20th century rocked. In some ways, it really sucked.
And this month - 100 years since the builders of the Titanic discovered that steel
will sink ...
RE: What you can do...
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:44 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Is it immoral to make "Yummi" sounds when preparing dog food to get the dogs to eat it.
It is amazingly effective. They seem to understand human "Yummi" sounds. They lick their lips and start dancing around. I feel oddly guilty which makes me think it is immoral in some fashion.
RE: What you can do...
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:52 pm
by Crackaces
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Is it immoral to make "Yummi" sounds when preparing dog food to get the dogs to eat it.
It is amazingly effective. They seem to understand human "Yummi" sounds. They lick their lips and start dancing around. I feel oddly guilty which makes me think it is immoral in some fashion.
From which philosophical perspective are we defining morality? Certainly Rorty would see your actions as pragmatic in order to encourage the dogs to engage in behaviors which is good for them. Maybe PETA would see some immorality but they are more ideological ...
RE: What you can do...
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:59 pm
by Alfred
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Is it immoral to make "Yummi" sounds when preparing dog food to get the dogs to eat it.
It is amazingly effective. They seem to understand human "Yummi" sounds. They lick their lips and start dancing around. I feel oddly guilty which makes me think it is immoral in some fashion.
Provided you don't drool, it should be OK. If you do drool, then it means you really are thinking of eating it yourself and that would be immoral to tease the dogs with something you have no intention of giveng to them.
Alfred
RE: What you can do...
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:00 pm
by Cap Mandrake
************Dec 15, 1942(c)************
Gove/Darwin and envrions: JJ just raided Gove yesterday so I figured it would be safe. I sent in an AK to unload some suppries and perhaps bait in a LYB air attack. I think Admirar Rord Fabertong anticipated that the Arries would expect a free night of unroading so the crever bastard staged 2 consecutive nightly attacks [:-]
Night Time Surface Combat, near Gove at 82,127, Range 11,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CA Chokai
CA Myoko
CA Aoba
DD Samidare
DD Oboro
DD Hatakaze
Allied Ships
xAK Steel Seafarer, Shell hits 29, and is sunk
The good news is I think it was planned to be a bombardment attack but Steel Seafarer absorbed all the CA main gun ammo so the the bombardment consisted only of DD's.
Night Naval bombardment of Gove at 82,127
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 3 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
Japanese Ships
DD Hatakaze
DD Oboro
DD Samidare
Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 1
B-24's raided over Darwin. At least 1 more B-24 lost. No raid over Katherine for some reason. The ground troops are getting close at Katherine. JJ made two raids over Merauke but were driven off. Interestingly, there are no CV's at Timor. Maybe they are at Kendari or Soerabaja.
RE: What you can do...
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:08 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Pragmatism...hmmm. Is it then immoral for Rord Admirar Fabertong to bait us into sending an AK to Gove by staging 2 consecutive night raids...or is that prgamatism?
Similarly, is it immoral to bait LYB bombers into a CAP trap?
RE: What you can do...
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:11 pm
by Alfred
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Pragmatism...hmmm. Is it then immoral for Rord Admirar Fabertong to bait us into sending an AK to Gove by staging 2 consecutive night raids...or is that prgamatism?
Similarly, is it immoral to bait LYB bombers into a CAP trap?
Again, it is OK as long as you don't drool.
Alfred
RE: What you can do...
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:14 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Alfred
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Is it immoral to make "Yummi" sounds when preparing dog food to get the dogs to eat it.
It is amazingly effective. They seem to understand human "Yummi" sounds. They lick their lips and start dancing around. I feel oddly guilty which makes me think it is immoral in some fashion.
Provided you don't drool, it should be OK. If you do drool, then it means you really are thinking of eating it yourself and that would be immoral to tease the dogs with something you have no intention of giveng to them.
Alfred
Well, when I run out of wet food, I sometimes will poach them an egg or two in the microwave. I can't promise I don't drool a bit then. Also, when a 1000 lb bomb rips through the deck of
Kaga I will sometimes have to wipe the spittle away.
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:19 pm
by Cap Mandrake
There is also this. The inquiry over USS Sturgeon is not even completed and then this happens.....
Sub attack near Taihoku at 87,62
Japanese Ships
xAKL Taiyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Fukuei Maru
Allied Ships
SS Sawfish
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:26 pm
by Cap Mandrake
JJ has spotted the SeaBees at Timoeka (little dot base on New Guinea). Probably the Timoeka HOA or SPCA turned them in for destroying Dutch New Guinea Pea Hen habitat. They get plasterized. Oh, well, maybe it will serve as a good distraction. We are pounding the elite Jap division on Dobo. It is only fair.
Morning Air attack on 3rd USN Naval Construction Battalion, at 86,116 (Timoeka)
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 20
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
139 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 8 disabled
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:32 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Port Hedrand/Broome: More supplies being unloaded with a CA, CL and some DD's providing cover.
The F4F's and P-38's are still providing LRCAP from 280-350 miles distant.
Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Hedland at 57,129
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3
Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 2
P-38G Lightning x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed
No Allied losses
Kaching!
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Hedland at 57,129
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
G3M2 Nell x 13
G4M1 Betty x 5
Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 1
P-38G Lightning x 3
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CL Durban
CA San Francisco
LYB troops at PH are just pummeled by the mediums. I think virtually all the LYB AA guns are destroyed. 20 B-17's raided over Broome to keep the airfield suppressed.
RE: With the Wren Detachment
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:33 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Now clearly, this is NOT immoral as we are legitimately trying to unload cargo. [:)]