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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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Is there something hard-coded into the game that prevents Japan from inflicting the same massacre Allied air would deliver if the tables were turned? I could provide examples or further detail, just wondering aloud.

There is no hard coding which favours one side over the other.

You should go back to first principles and note what factors are fed into the combat algorithms.

Alfred

This is after day 1 of oil wells bombing at Balikpapan.
added Tarakan and Samarinda for reference, they were destroyed long time ago, they were not attacked this turn



My only 2 critiques to his defense measures is that I hardly felt any AA presence and that he didn't use Samarinda as secondary base. His CAP was vast, although I can't say if he had it layered

I am wondering if there is counter against "the hammer" attack of Allied bomber runs; probably the answer is no, that you can at most make it very expensive, a lot more expensive that what I paid for sure, but once the heavies are in range, doom will follow

exponential effort for incremental gain in defenses, most likely. If we are talking about one of the last places putting out oil in the DEI, every effort should be made.

I am wondering if there is counter against "the hammer" attack of Allied bomber runs; probably the answer is no, that you can at most make it very expensive, a lot more expensive that what I paid for sure, but once the heavies are in range, doom will follow

Not for a while.

The George and Frank will level the playing field against your sweeps, and make bombing potentially more costly. But keeping the bombers "in mass" with consistent sweeps by P-38s and P-47s is hard to beat. You're limited by numbers and aircraft fatigue in bombers more than enemy right now. As long as you protect your bomber bases from naval bombardment threat, and that has its own risks for the IJN.

You're in a great position....the biggest risk now is probably trying to do too much too quick. Don't rush to failure! But balance that with maintaining pressure - you can do limited amphibs within range of LBA without CVs, and keep your opponent in an aerial war of attrition...and that will end badly for the Empire.

Nicely done!

Yes, I think baby steps, at least until I have the carriers to force my way

January 26.43
Makassar oil bombing went OK, oil wells are at 36(265)
then an interesting development... a Japanese TF was spotted 1 hex SW of Pare Pare, then my TBs at Tockambesi-eilanden found Mutsu and Yamato!!

It was too long range for torpedoes, therefore there was little damage to the battleships... certainly I am curious what is he up to, I have set two SCTFs to investigate, one with fast, one with slow battleships, both supported by multiple cruisers

Maybe we will have Jutland fleet action next turn




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Morning Air attack on TF, near Makassar at 65,105

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 4
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 5

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 28
TBF-1 Avenger x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Bomb hits 6
BB Yamato, Bomb hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 1000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
19 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 1000 feet

CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Raid is overhead
24th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Makassar at 65,105

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 4
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18
TBF-1 Avenger x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed by flak
TBF-1 Avenger: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Yamato, Bomb hits 2
BB Mutsu, Bomb hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 1000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Raid is overhead
24th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead

January 27.43
Jutland in the Pacific!!!
Ching Lee's battle line found Yamato and friends!

I normally won't use 25-ship TFs. but I thought this occasion required it; because Yamato guns could potentially disable multiple ships quickly, so I needed numbers to spread the pain

Also, the idea was not necessary to sink Yamato, but many months of shipyard repairs also helps the cause



This was a night battle, starting range was 8,000 yards

Hits to Yamato:
- PoW managed to put two 14inch hits that penetrated Yamato's belt, plus a 3rd on superstructure and a 4th that was defeated by belt armor
- South Dakota one 16inch hit on superstructure and another one defeated by belt armor
- North Carolina, almost a tourist, one 16inch hit defeated by belt armor
- everything else were mostly 8 or 5 inch hits on belt armor, however there were a few that hit superstructure, and likely increase fires

Hits to Allies:
- South Dakota hit twice by Mutsu's 40 cms, both penetrated belt armor
- Poor Chester hit twice by Yamato's 46 cms... most likely candidate for sinking
- Not a night for Destroyers, no torpedo hits, I would say the Japanese performed better


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Makassar at 65,105, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 2
BB Yamato, Shell hits 30, heavy fires
DD Onami
DD Kuroshio
DD Hayashio
DD Amatsukaze
DD Asashio
DD Kasumi
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Kamikaze
DD Asakaze
DD Hatakaze
DD Nokaze, Shell hits 1
DD Yanagi

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina
BB South Dakota, Shell hits 8, on fire
BB Prince of Wales, Shell hits 2
CA Indianapolis
CA Chester, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
CA Pensacola
CA Salt Lake City
CA New Orleans, Shell hits 1
CA Astoria
CA San Francisco, Shell hits 2
CA Vincennes, Shell hits 1
CA Dorsetshire
DD Buchanan
DD Barton
DD Woodworth
DD Caldwell
DD Frazier, Shell hits 1
DD Gansevoort, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Meade, Shell hits 1
DD O'Brien
DD Walke
DD Morris
DD Dunlap, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Case, Shell hits 1
DD Cushing


Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 60% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 23,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Prince of Wales at 8,000 yards
BB South Dakota engages BB Mutsu at 8,000 yards
BB North Carolina engages BB Yamato at 8,000 yards
DD Nokaze engages CA Dorsetshire at 8,000 yards
DD Hatakaze engages BB South Dakota at 8,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA San Francisco at 8,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages BB South Dakota at 8,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Salt Lake City at 8,000 yards
DD Asashio engages BB South Dakota at 8,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Chester at 8,000 yards
BB South Dakota engages DD Hayashio at 8,000 yards
BB Prince of Wales engages DD Kuroshio at 8,000 yards
DD Case engages DD Hayashio at 8,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Dunlap at 8,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD O'Brien at 8,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Meade at 8,000 yards
DD Hatakaze engages DD Gansevoort at 8,000 yards
DD Frazier engages DD Kamikaze at 8,000 yards
DD Caldwell engages DD Kamikaze at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Prince of Wales at 7,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages BB Prince of Wales at 7,000 yards
DD Yanagi engages DD Frazier at 7,000 yards
DD Nokaze engages DD Meade at 7,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Vincennes at 7,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Dunlap at 7,000 yards
DD Dunlap engages DD Kamikaze at 7,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA New Orleans at 7,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Salt Lake City at 7,000 yards
DD Gansevoort engages DD Asashio at 7,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Chester at 7,000 yards
CA Indianapolis engages DD Hayashio at 7,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD O'Brien at 7,000 yards
DD Case engages DD Nokaze at 7,000 yards
DD Dunlap engages DD Hatakaze at 7,000 yards
DD Yanagi engages DD Meade at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB South Dakota at 9,000 yards
BB South Dakota engages BB Mutsu at 9,000 yards
DD Yanagi engages DD Gansevoort at 9,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Dorsetshire at 9,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Vincennes at 9,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Meade at 9,000 yards
DD Shiratsuyu engages DD Dunlap at 9,000 yards
DD Kasumi engages DD Dunlap at 9,000 yards
DD Gansevoort engages DD Asashio at 9,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Chester at 9,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD O'Brien at 9,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Cushing at 9,000 yards
DD Case engages DD Onami at 9,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Walke at 9,000 yards
DD Nokaze engages DD Buchanan at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
BB Prince of Wales engages BB Yamato at 11,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages BB South Dakota at 11,000 yards
DD Yanagi engages DD Dunlap at 11,000 yards
DD Nokaze engages DD Dunlap at 11,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Vincennes at 11,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA San Francisco at 11,000 yards
CA Astoria engages DD Kamikaze at 11,000 yards
CA New Orleans engages DD Shiratsuyu at 11,000 yards
DD Kasumi engages DD Frazier at 11,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Pensacola at 11,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Chester at 11,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Indianapolis at 11,000 yards
DD Hatakaze engages DD Case at 11,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Morris at 11,000 yards
DD Shiratsuyu engages DD Gansevoort at 11,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Frazier at 11,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB South Dakota at 12,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages BB South Dakota at 12,000 yards
DD Dunlap engages DD Yanagi at 12,000 yards
DD Nokaze engages DD Cushing at 12,000 yards
DD Hatakaze engages DD Gansevoort at 12,000 yards
CA San Francisco engages DD Asakaze at 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Astoria at 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA New Orleans at 12,000 yards
DD Frazier engages DD Kasumi at 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Pensacola at 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Chester at 12,000 yards
DD Nokaze engages DD Cushing at 12,000 yards
DD Onami engages DD Frazier at 12,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Meade at 12,000 yards
BB Prince of Wales engages BB Yamato at 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB South Dakota at 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB North Carolina at 12,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Hatakaze at 12,000 yards
DD O'Brien engages DD Hatakaze at 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA San Francisco at 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Astoria at 12,000 yards
CA New Orleans engages DD Shiratsuyu at 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Salt Lake City at 12,000 yards
DD Meade engages DD Asashio at 12,000 yards
DD Frazier engages DD Amatsukaze at 12,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Case at 12,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Cushing at 12,000 yards
DD Woodworth engages DD Nokaze at 12,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
BB Prince of Wales engages BB Yamato at 13,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB South Dakota at 13,000 yards
BB North Carolina engages BB Yamato at 13,000 yards
DD Nokaze engages DD Dunlap at 13,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Vincennes at 13,000 yards
CA San Francisco engages DD Hatakaze at 13,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Astoria at 13,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA New Orleans at 13,000 yards
DD Meade engages DD Kasumi at 13,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Gansevoort at 13,000 yards
CA Chester engages DD Amatsukaze at 13,000 yards
DD O'Brien engages DD Hayashio at 13,000 yards
DD Cushing engages DD Hayashio at 13,000 yards
DD Nokaze engages DD Case at 13,000 yards
DD Hatakaze engages DD Morris at 13,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages DD O'Brien at 13,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Gansevoort at 13,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages DD Frazier at 13,000 yards
DD Yanagi engages DD Caldwell at 13,000 yards
Task forces break off...

I see you have CA Dorsetshire in the TF, that is good, it has fully functioning torpedoes.
It also looks like you have some either NZ or Australian CLs, again with good torpedoes.

Good luck. I am waiting for the full outcome results.

2nd night battle:
Yamato, damaged and under fire, was detached from the main TF, with only destroyer Nokaze as escort

he was pretty much raped by the Allied battleships... but managed to escape under heavy fires heavy damage



North Carolina hits: 3 16inch hits, all penetrated belt armor

PoW hits: 4 14inch hits, 3 penetrated belt armor, 1 penetrated tower armor

Nokaze hit by a torpedo


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Makassar at 65,105, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Yamato, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Nokaze, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina
BB Prince of Wales
CA Indianapolis
CA Pensacola
CA Salt Lake City
CA New Orleans
CA Astoria
CA San Francisco
CA Vincennes
CA Dorsetshire
DD Buchanan
DD Barton
DD Woodworth
DD Caldwell
DD Frazier, on fire
DD Gansevoort, on fire
DD Meade
DD O'Brien
DD Walke
DD Morris
DD Dunlap, on fire


Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 60% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 27,000 yards...
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 23,000 yards
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 21,000 yards
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB North Carolina at 10,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB North Carolina at 10,000 yards
BB Yamato engages DD Walke at 10,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Prince of Wales at 10,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB North Carolina at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB North Carolina at 6,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB North Carolina at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Prince of Wales at 2,000 yards
DD Nokaze engages DD Walke at 2,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Pensacola at 2,000 yards
DD Nokaze engages DD O'Brien at 2,000 yards
BB Prince of Wales engages BB Yamato at 2,000 yards
DD Nokaze sunk by DD Woodworth at 2,000 yards
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...

3rd battle of the night:

Somerville's "slow" division, which had an ever more bizarre TF composition found the main Japanese fleet (Tanaka Raizo in command, he should be considering hara-kiri by now)... for this TF I just added as many cruisers I could (without compromising the fast division, which got most of the heavy cruisers)

so by now it was only Mutsu and DDs. Mutsu received a few low caliber hit on the 1st battle, so it was in good shape for this fight

Biggest surprise, the "Rs"!!! as Eric Clapton would sing : youuu were wonderful toniiiight [&o][&o]

Revenge and Resolution scored hit after hit on Mutsu, until it finally sank

more good news: 2 Japanese destroyers sank, 2 more very heavily damaged



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Night Time Surface Combat, near Makassar at 64,105, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 15, and is sunk
DD Onami
DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Hayashio
DD Amatsukaze, Shell hits 5, heavy fires
DD Asashio, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kasumi
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Kamikaze
DD Asakaze, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hatakaze, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
DD Yanagi, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Revenge, Shell hits 1
BB Resolution, Shell hits 6, on fire
CA Frobisher
CL Mauritius, Shell hits 2
CL Birmingham
CL Phoenix, Shell hits 1
DD Stuart
DD Arunta
DD Warramunga
DD Nepal, Shell hits 1
DD Nestor
DD Napier, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Tjerk Hiddes, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Van Galen


Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 60% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages BB Revenge at 11,000 yards
DD Yanagi sunk by DD Napier at 11,000 yards
DD Napier engages DD Hatakaze at 11,000 yards
CL Phoenix engages DD Hatakaze at 11,000 yards
CL Birmingham engages DD Hatakaze at 11,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Tjerk Hiddes at 11,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages DD Napier at 11,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Napier at 11,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Nepal at 11,000 yards
DD Onami engages DD Warramunga at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages BB Resolution at 5,000 yards
BB Revenge engages DD Kuroshio at 5,000 yards
DD Warramunga engages DD Asakaze at 5,000 yards
CL Phoenix engages DD Asakaze at 5,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages CL Birmingham at 5,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages CL Mauritius at 5,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Warramunga at 5,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages DD Napier at 5,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Nestor at 5,000 yards
DD Napier engages DD Onami at 5,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Warramunga at 5,000 yards
DD Arunta engages DD Hatakaze at 5,000 yards
DD Stuart engages DD Kuroshio at 5,000 yards
BB Resolution engages BB Mutsu at 5,000 yards
DD Hatakaze sunk by BB Revenge at 5,000 yards
CA Frobisher engages DD Onami at 5,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Tjerk Hiddes at 5,000 yards
DD Shiratsuyu engages DD Napier at 5,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Asashio at 5,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages DD Tjerk Hiddes at 5,000 yards
DD Napier engages DD Kuroshio at 5,000 yards
DD Nestor engages DD Onami at 5,000 yards
DD Nepal engages DD Onami at 5,000 yards
DD Shiratsuyu engages DD Stuart at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
BB Resolution engages DD Hayashio at 4,000 yards
DD Warramunga engages DD Asakaze at 4,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Tjerk Hiddes at 4,000 yards
CL Phoenix engages DD Kuroshio at 4,000 yards
DD Nepal engages DD Kasumi at 4,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Kuroshio at 4,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages DD Warramunga at 4,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Nepal at 4,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Stuart at 4,000 yards
DD Nestor engages DD Kuroshio at 4,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Warramunga at 4,000 yards
DD Arunta engages DD Kuroshio at 4,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Stuart at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages BB Resolution at 8,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Tjerk Hiddes at 8,000 yards
CA Frobisher engages DD Asakaze at 8,000 yards
CL Phoenix engages DD Asakaze at 8,000 yards
CL Birmingham engages DD Shiratsuyu at 8,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Kuroshio at 8,000 yards
DD Van Galen engages DD Kamikaze at 8,000 yards
DD Tjerk Hiddes engages DD Asakaze at 8,000 yards
DD Napier engages DD Kuroshio at 8,000 yards
DD Napier engages DD Onami at 8,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Nepal at 8,000 yards
DD Warramunga engages DD Asakaze at 8,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Arunta at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages BB Revenge at 11,000 yards
BB Revenge engages DD Asakaze at 11,000 yards
CA Frobisher engages DD Kamikaze at 11,000 yards
DD Shiratsuyu engages DD Napier at 11,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages CL Birmingham at 11,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Asashio at 11,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages DD Van Galen at 11,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Tjerk Hiddes at 11,000 yards
DD Napier engages DD Kuroshio at 11,000 yards
DD Nestor engages DD Kuroshio at 11,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages DD Warramunga at 11,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Arunta at 11,000 yards
DD Stuart engages DD Kamikaze at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages BB Revenge at 10,000 yards
CA Frobisher engages DD Kamikaze at 10,000 yards
CL Phoenix engages DD Kuroshio at 10,000 yards
DD Tjerk Hiddes engages DD Kasumi at 10,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Kuroshio at 10,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Van Galen at 10,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Tjerk Hiddes at 10,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Tjerk Hiddes at 10,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Nepal at 10,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Warramunga at 10,000 yards
DD Shiratsuyu engages DD Stuart at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages BB Resolution at 9,000 yards
BB Revenge engages BB Mutsu at 9,000 yards
CA Frobisher engages DD Kuroshio at 9,000 yards
CL Phoenix engages DD Kuroshio at 9,000 yards
DD Kasumi engages DD Arunta at 9,000 yards
DD Arunta engages DD Asashio at 9,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Van Galen at 9,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Tjerk Hiddes at 9,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Napier at 9,000 yards
DD Onami engages DD Stuart at 9,000 yards
DD Kasumi engages DD Nepal at 9,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Stuart at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
BB Mutsu sunk by BB Revenge at 10,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Napier at 10,000 yards
CA Frobisher engages DD Kuroshio at 10,000 yards
CL Birmingham engages DD Onami at 10,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Asashio at 10,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages DD Nepal at 10,000 yards
DD Nepal engages DD Hayashio at 10,000 yards
DD Napier engages DD Kuroshio at 10,000 yards
DD Onami engages DD Stuart at 10,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
BB Resolution engages DD Amatsukaze at 12,000 yards
BB Revenge engages DD Amatsukaze at 12,000 yards
DD Shiratsuyu engages DD Tjerk Hiddes at 12,000 yards
CL Phoenix engages DD Amatsukaze at 12,000 yards
CL Birmingham engages DD Amatsukaze at 12,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages DD Nepal at 12,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Napier at 12,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Warramunga at 12,000 yards
DD Onami engages DD Napier at 12,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Nestor at 12,000 yards
Tanaka, Raizo orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range closes to 9,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Tjerk Hiddes at 9,000 yards
BB Revenge engages DD Kamikaze at 9,000 yards
CA Frobisher engages DD Shiratsuyu at 9,000 yards
DD Kasumi engages DD Nepal at 9,000 yards
CL Birmingham engages DD Asashio at 9,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Amatsukaze at 9,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Van Galen at 9,000 yards
DD Tjerk Hiddes engages DD Kuroshio at 9,000 yards
DD Stuart engages DD Onami at 9,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages DD Nestor at 9,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages DD Warramunga at 9,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages DD Arunta at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
BB Resolution engages DD Amatsukaze at 13,000 yards
BB Revenge engages DD Amatsukaze at 13,000 yards
DD Arunta engages DD Shiratsuyu at 13,000 yards
CL Phoenix engages DD Kasumi at 13,000 yards
CL Birmingham engages DD Amatsukaze at 13,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Amatsukaze at 13,000 yards
DD Van Galen engages DD Onami at 13,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Tjerk Hiddes at 13,000 yards
DD Shiratsuyu engages DD Nepal at 13,000 yards
DD Warramunga engages DD Amatsukaze at 13,000 yards
DD Arunta engages DD Kuroshio at 13,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages DD Stuart at 13,000 yards
Task forces break off...

The R class do good work - if they actually can catch the enemy!

there was no daytime surface combat

but what followed was the most scary LBA attack I can remember, it came at PM phase, wave after wave of all kinds of IJN airplanes, mostly Betties, Vals and Kates

in summary:
- PoW torpedoed, also hit by several 250kg bombs, radar destroyed but not a lot of damage... it also had one lucky "hit no explosion"
- North Carolina, one lucky "hit not explosion", several 250kg bombs that destroyed a gun but did little damage



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Makassar at 62,105

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 7 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales
BB North Carolina

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Makassar at 62,105

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Makassar at 62,105

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 10 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales
BB North Carolina

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Makassar at 62,105

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 13 damaged
D3A1 Val: 6 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales
CA New Orleans
BB North Carolina, Bomb hits 1
CA Indianapolis

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Makassar at 62,105

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 5 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Makassar at 62,105

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 9 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina, Bomb hits 3
BB Prince of Wales, Bomb hits 2
CA Salt Lake City

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 3000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Makassar at 62,105

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 7 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CA Salt Lake City
CA Pensacola
BB Prince of Wales

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Makassar at 62,105

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp




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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Makassar at 62,105

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina
BB Prince of Wales, Torpedo hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

End of battle analysis:

- Once again, can we say "as always?", a lone Japanese SCTF got mobbed and defeated by a group of Allied SCTFs,

- Once again, Japan tried to bombard while significant opposition was very nearby, this time he didn't bombard, which actually helped the empire, the battle results would had been worse (although not by a lot, as this was an imperial disaster) if the Allies found them with depleted ammo

- Really happy with the RN! "Rs" Revenge, Resolution and PoW pulled a lot more of than their weight in this battle, maybe because it was at night? the USN did OK, but nowhere nearly as good as the British.. PoW and Resolution were on fire!

- So far no Allied ships sunk, this might change next turn. Chester is in very bad shape, same goes for PoW and Resolution
The question of the night... how many FPs does Yamato carry? EDIT: I re-read the battle report and there is no other explanation for the loss of those Petes.. [:)]



If these 4 Petes means that the monster is vanquished, then the empire is down to 4 battleships and one reinforcement

- Kongo (Kongo class)
- Haruna (Kongo class)
- Fuso (Fuso class)
- Hyuga (Ise class)
- Musashi - reinforcement (Yamato class)

Confirmed losses: Hiei, Kirishima, Ise, Nagato, Yamashiro, Mutsu, Yamato

It comes with 6 I do believe but can carry 7.

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

It comes with 6 I do believe but can carry 7.

yes, a few might had rebased... there was really no other place where I bombed petes, Balikpapan attack was targetting 100% oil wells, and there is no report of Petes hit

Godzilla is dead!

would he build Godzuki (Musashi)?

If there was too much damage from the night actions, the float planes could not take off. Unless they were in the air, they could not rebase.

ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

It comes with 6 I do believe but can carry 7.

yes, a few might had rebased... there was really no other place where I bombed petes, Balikpapan attack was targetting 100% oil wells, and there is no report of Petes hit

Godzilla is dead!

would he build Godzuki (Musashi)?

Don't forget you sank Mutsu as well. But I figure six FPs is about right for two BBs.
Gotta love the righteous Allied flak in 1943!

I think that he would have been better off having lots of smaller DD TFs with low aggression orders. Launch Long Lances and RUN!

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

It comes with 6 I do believe but can carry 7.

yes, a few might had rebased... there was really no other place where I bombed petes, Balikpapan attack was targetting 100% oil wells, and there is no report of Petes hit

Godzilla is dead!

would he build Godzuki (Musashi)?

Don't forget you sank Mutsu as well. But I figure six FPs is about right for two BBs.
Gotta love the righteous Allied flak in 1943!

The Mutsu's FPs were Jakes, and they are accounted for in the combat losses report

[&o]Another big allied victory , at this point does IJN have a surface force ? Unless your opponent is one of those fight untill the end types i expect a concede soon

He has 4 battleships + Musashi

7 heavy cruisers and 6 or 7 light ones + 4 on reinforcement . Probably enough DDs to support them although his DD losses had been heavy

If I have guess, he will not quit. I think this game still has value to offer both of us, at least until Q3 43 maybe Q4

January 28.43
The battleship Prince of Wales was a great ship, it really soldiered the 1st year of the war, mostly as a carrier escort, but also fighting surface actions
It was critical in the sinking of Yamato, but ended up heavily damaged after waves of waves of LBAs

This turn, while it was limping back to port, it was found by submarine I-18 which managed to put 3 torpedoes on it

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Sub attack near Tockangbesi-eilanden at 70,110

Japanese Ships
SS I-18

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD Dunlap
DD Meade

SS I-18 launches 8 torpedoes at BB Prince of Wales
DD Dunlap fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Meade fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Meade fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Meade fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Meade fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Meade fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Submarine attack near Tockangbesi-eilanden at 70,110

Japanese Ships
SS I-18

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

BB Prince of Wales is sighted by SS I-18
SS I-18 launches 6 torpedoes at BB Prince of Wales

Good job!