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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add OV-10G+ Bronco (Combat Dragon II)</summary>
<detail>Updated Broncos used in the field as part of the Combat Dragon II program and later passed onto the Philippines.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.ov10squadron.com/flying-snipers-the-ov-10g/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Ame ... o#Variants
https://www.defensemedianetwork.com/sto ... abilities/
http://maxdefense.blogspot.com/2018/07/ ... s-and.html
https://www.flightglobal.com/us-militar ... 82.article
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... manhunters
https://jalopnik.com/ov-10-broncos-were ... 1764407068
https://jalopnik.com/the-amazing-ov-10- ... 1695837367
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/1 ... hilippines
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/1 ... fight-isis
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... g-sold-off
</evidence>

Transfer from CWDB to DB3K?
Any chance the former Rhodesian aircraft still used by Zimbabwe in the 1990's to 2000's could be transferred over?
Arms embargoes didn't start crippling the fleet until quite late into the 2000's.
Specifically the
FTB.337G Lynx, SF.260 and Alouette and AB.205 G cars were all used in the Congo interventions in 96/97 and 98 to 2003.
Appreciate land locked African countries may not be a top priority!
http://cmano-db.com/cw/aircraft/4070/
http://cmano-db.com/cw/aircraft/4073/
http://cmano-db.com/cw/aircraft/4074/
http://cmano-db.com/cw/aircraft/4077/
http://cmano-db.com/cw/aircraft/4071/

<type>MODIFY</type>
<summary>Add Altius 600 UAV loadout to the XQ-58 Valkyrie UAV.</summary>
<detail>Altius 600 was previously added in the DB as a weapon and aircraft. Valkyrie has successfully deployed the Altius 600 from the same launch tube as used for existing Viper Strike and SGM loads. Currently 2 in the DB so 2 Altius UAVs in a recon loadout is suggested.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/4 ... ller-drone
https://www.thedefensepost.com/2021/04/ ... hes-drone/
https://theaviationist.com/2021/04/06/e ... s-600-uas/
https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/un ... 93.article
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2021/04 ... yload-bay/
</evidence>

ORIGINAL: KLAB

Transfer from CWDB to DB3K?
Any chance the former Rhodesian aircraft still used by Zimbabwe in the 1990's to 2000's could be transferred over?
Arms embargoes didn't start crippling the fleet until quite late into the 2000's.
Specifically the
FTB.337G Lynx, SF.260 and Alouette and AB.205 G cars were all used in the Congo interventions in 96/97 and 98 to 2003.
Appreciate land locked African countries may not be a top priority!
http://cmano-db.com/cw/aircraft/4070/
http://cmano-db.com/cw/aircraft/4073/
http://cmano-db.com/cw/aircraft/4074/
http://cmano-db.com/cw/aircraft/4077/
http://cmano-db.com/cw/aircraft/4071/

To piggy back this could some additional aircraft be added which are already existing in the DB for nations like Zambia and the Philippines which Zimbabwe uses or has used such as the...

<type>Add</type>
<summary>Add AB.212, AB.205, BN-2A, C-212, K-8, Mi-35, and Mi-17, and C-47.</summary>
<detail>Copy preexisting db units to Zimbabwe, K-8's serve as a Hawk replacement and may employ similar armaments so the PRC entry was selected as the closest match.</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force ... e#Aircraft
https://www.flightglobal.com/download?ac=75345
https://cmano-db.com/aircraft/3739/
https://cmano-db.com/aircraft/5381/
https://cmano-db.com/aircraft/5052/
https://cmano-db.com/aircraft/5050/
https://cmano-db.com/aircraft/4466/
https://cmano-db.com/aircraft/2229/
</evidence>

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add updated Qatar NASAM SAM sysem with AMRAAM-ER</summary>
<detail>Qatar indicated as the first buyer for AMRAAM-ER for NASAM</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... ay-be-next
https://www.kongsberg.com/newsandmedia/ ... llion-nok/
https://raytheon.mediaroom.com/2019-07- ... capability
https://www.airforce-technology.com/new ... ems-qatar/
</evidence>

To piggy back the piggy back...
<type>Add</type>
<summary>
Zimbabwean MK60 an Mk60A Hawks were apparently deployed with PL-7 AAM as a direct drop in replacement for AIM-9'S (EMBARGOED) over the Congo is 1998-2003.
</summary>
<detail>
Add 2 x PL-7 AAM and drop tanks as an air defence load out for Zimbabwean Mk60/A Hawks from circa 1998.
</detail>
<evidence>
Books Great Lakes Conflagration - Second Congo War 1998-2003. Tom Cooper - Helion Publishing - Africa at War Series ISBN 978-1-909384-66-8 PP.38
"Initially AFZ Hawks flew armed reconnaissance sorties, some of them armed with Chinese PL-7 air to air missiles"
Imagery wise there is nothing I can find so far to show PL-7 in use with the Hawks but Zimbabwe did take delivery of J-7/F-7 in the same time frame and they came with the PL-7, but they were busting sanctions, so not surprising it wasn't in the press release!
http://aviadejavu.ru/Images6/HI/HI-11/45-1.jpg - Hawk Mk60 was capable of using AIM-9 when delivered by BAe. Matra Magic used a similar interface to the AIM-9 and THE PL-7 is a blatant copy of Magic, so the ZAF had the means motive and method.
<evidence>
K

ORIGINAL: tylerblakebrandon

ORIGINAL: KLAB

Transfer from CWDB to DB3K?
Any chance the former Rhodesian aircraft still used by Zimbabwe in the 1990's to 2000's could be transferred over?
Arms embargoes didn't start crippling the fleet until quite late into the 2000's.
Specifically the
FTB.337G Lynx, SF.260 and Alouette and AB.205 G cars were all used in the Congo interventions in 96/97 and 98 to 2003.
Appreciate land locked African countries may not be a top priority!
http://cmano-db.com/cw/aircraft/4070/
http://cmano-db.com/cw/aircraft/4073/
http://cmano-db.com/cw/aircraft/4074/
http://cmano-db.com/cw/aircraft/4077/
http://cmano-db.com/cw/aircraft/4071/

To piggy back this could some additional aircraft be added which are already existing in the DB for nations like Zambia and the Philippines which Zimbabwe uses or has used such as the...

<type>Add</type>
<summary>Add AB.212, AB.205, BN-2A, C-212, K-8, Mi-35, and Mi-17, and C-47.</summary>
<detail>Copy preexisting db units to Zimbabwe, K-8's serve as a Hawk replacement and may employ similar armaments so the PRC entry was selected as the closest match.</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force ... e#Aircraft
https://www.flightglobal.com/download?ac=75345
https://cmano-db.com/aircraft/3739/
https://cmano-db.com/aircraft/5381/
https://cmano-db.com/aircraft/5052/
https://cmano-db.com/aircraft/5050/
https://cmano-db.com/aircraft/4466/
https://cmano-db.com/aircraft/2229/
</evidence>

SS-N-27 Sizzler on Russian Sub Yasen Class not capable of submerged launch.

The error is not with the entry about the booster as it cannot be sublaunched as its the terminal phase when the missile is already airborne.
The error is that the entire missile 3M54 (sublaunched) needs to be added to the Yasens mounts not just the terminal high speed booster phase. Think this has been raised as an error in the DB492 build as it used to be ok?

ORIGINAL: BeirutDude

SS-N-27 Sizzler on Russian Sub Yasen Class not capable of submerged launch.

hink this has been raised as

Yes, right now the Yansen is default loaded with the terminal boosted warhead. The actual missile that carries the warhead (below) is sub-launchable and defaulted to other Russian boats like the Oscar III.

So this thread goes all the way back to 2013, is it possible for Forum owner, to edit posts, saying that it has been solved or added? Would be encouraging to know that user adds are looked at and acted upon.

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Change range of AIM-120D</summary>
<detail>The range in the game says 75nm, but several sources claim longer range, from 87nm and up</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-wing ... imitations. About 87nm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEY6rhQRFoI +105nm
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/ ... amraam.htm ~100nm
https://militaryanalizer.com/aim-120-ad ... le-amraam/ +86nm
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/artic ... pabilities 86nm - 97nm
https://www.businessinsider.com/air-for ... ?r=US&IR=T ~ 100nm
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... -specs.htm +97nm
</evidence>

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Updated Gotland class submarine 2019 MLU</summary>
<detail> +20 systems upgraded, including new combat management system, new AIP system, ES-3701 (already in game), new mast suite, SA9510S sonar(used by type 212CD sub not in game and just ordered), Sagem Series 30 optronic mast system(in game on Scorpene subs), EM 2040 Dual RX </detail>
<evidence>
https://www.offshore-energy.biz/saab-ch ... ubmarines/
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... u-by-saab/
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... s-ssk.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutton/2 ... 4b6d342bfb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torped_47
https://www.saab.com/sv/newsroom/press- ... s-till-fmv
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... arine.html
https://www.kongsberg.com/maritime/prod ... ax.-600-m/
https://www.naval-technology.com/news/n ... s-4498320/

</evidence>

<type>Update</type>
<summary>North Korean Mi-25 (Aircraft #1383) and Mi-14PL (Aircraft #1470) should be flagged as hypothetical</summary>
<detail>According to the definitive On The Path of Songun, the rumored North Korean Hind deal never actually happened, and they have never been seen in any kind of parade or demonstration.</detail>
<Evidence>On the Path Of Songun, Mitzer and Oliemans, page 99-100:

Reports of up to 47 Mi-24Ds reaching the DPRK stemmed from a misreporting to the US Congressional Research Service decades ago and are therefore certainly incorrect, which is not surprising given the fact that North Korean military doctrine seemed to favour lighter helicopter gunships instead. In the same vein reports about a handful of Mi-14PL ASW helicopters delivered during the same period also appear to be false.

</evidence>

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Jordan has upgraded F-16s, in the name it says on a few loadouts AIM-120C7 but on the actual store its AIM-120B</summary>
<detail>As far as I can tell they actually bought AIM-120C7 and the missile is already in the game</detail>
<Evidence>https://www.airforce-technology.com/pro ... le-amraam/
https://military-history.fandom.com/wik ... e#Armament
According to last link they also have the AIM-9P and AIM-9X

"In aid of Juche: how Cuban anti-submarine helicopters ended up in North Korea - Oryx" https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2020/05/i ... i.html?m=1
https://www.nknews.org/2020/05/in-aid-o ... rth-korea/
Haze may not be as hypothetical as it seems and the second article has an alleged Satellite image of the Mi-14 x 2 at Wonsan DPRK in 2017 but who knows?
K

ORIGINAL: Coiler12

<type>Update</type>
<summary>North Korean Mi-25 (Aircraft #1383) and Mi-14PL (Aircraft #1470) should be flagged as hypothetical</summary>
<detail>According to the definitive On The Path of Songun, the rumored North Korean Hind deal never actually happened, and they have never been seen in any kind of parade or demonstration.</detail>
<Evidence>On the Path Of Songun, Mitzer and Oliemans, page 99-100:

Reports of up to 47 Mi-24Ds reaching the DPRK stemmed from a misreporting to the US Congressional Research Service decades ago and are therefore certainly incorrect, which is not surprising given the fact that North Korean military doctrine seemed to favour lighter helicopter gunships instead. In the same vein reports about a handful of Mi-14PL ASW helicopters delivered during the same period also appear to be false.

</evidence>

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Replace entry Aircraft #4894</summary>
<detail>
Take a look at Aircraft #4894. It is an Israeli F-15E with US weapons other than a rampage loadout. Looks like somebody copied over and didn't finish and entry. Has existed for maybe 4-5 DB interactions. </detail?
<evidence>
https://www.scramble.nl/planning/orbats/israel
</evidence>

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Please add S cube sonar system on listed submarines </summary>
<detail>
The wide S-Cube catalog comprises bow, aft, flank, distributed, towed, intercept and active arrays, self-noise monitoring, MOAS, as well as associated functions.

As an integrated system, it offers instantaneous access to all sensors data. These data can also be post-processed on a long historical period at any moment on request of the sonar operator, providing an invaluable tool for contact analysis and classification, localization
and tracking.

The S-CUBE can be integrated with any CMS and operated from Multi-Function Consoles.

MAIN CHARACTERISTICS
System features:
Scalable for all sizes of the submarine (from costal SSK to oceanic SSK)
New-build programs and refit projects
- for experienced Navies as well as for navies operating subs for the first time
- Fulfilling the customer and shipyard requirements through possible sonar sensors options available for submarines
- Modular architecture based on COTS
- Qualified to Military Environmental standards
Bow Array: cylindrical and conformal
Stern array for full panoramic coverage
Planar Flank Array
Towed Array (clip-on or fully reelable)
Intercept Array
Distributed Array
Active Array in BF and HF bandwith
Mine & Obstacle Avoidance Array
Self Noise Monitoring hydrophones

Launched in 2006, already contracted by 3 Navies:

Brazilian Navy, 4 systems, Scorpene
Indian Navy (P75 Program), 6 systems
A South American Navy (209 submarine modernization), 2 systems
<evidence>
https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwid ... onar-suite
https://www.militaryperiscope.com/weapo ... nar-system
https://www.naval-technology.com/projec ... ubmarines/
</evidence>

<type>ADD and UPDATE</type>
<summary>Add JAS-39C and D to Czech republic(12+2) and Hungary(12+2)</summary>
<detail>Leased aircraft from Sweden, Czech and Hungarian aircraft upgraded to latest version in the Swedish entry, however they do not have the Meteor, instead they have the AMRAAM AIM120C-7 version, they tried to buy the cheaper C-5 version but it was discontinued before order, as well as Sidewinder AIM-9X. Also read that they have the Paveway MkII but cant find the link. Below link also states the Maverick. Hungary also just bought 2021 the IRIS-T. The Brazil entry says that the JAS-39E has been cancelled and that just isnt true. What is true is that there has been a discussion with India and Brazil and possibly Thailand to make a carrier version but that is still only on the drawing board, so not cancelled since it hasnt gotten very far yet. But the Gripen E/F is very much being used by Brazil</detail>
<evidence>
https://defence24.com/czech-republic-mo ... n-fighters
https://web.archive.org/web/20120329033 ... 2005-04-06
https://www.airforce-technology.com/new ... y-5748582/
https://www.overtdefense.com/2021/12/23 ... n-program/
</evidence>

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add Updated Skyshield OECM to Israel F-16 SEAD loadouts</summary>
<detail>Israeli now using an updated Skyshield system (TM?)Centerline pod and looks like carried with bombs on F-16 1-18 Ghz so L,S,C,X, Ku Looks like two variants one small, one large (guessing we'll won't know the power difference ever). Configuration in pictures is Barak with 4 AAM, 1 Spice 1000, 4 SDB, Skyshield, 2 fuel tank. </detail>
<evidence>
https://www.rafael.co.il/wp-content/upl ... Shield.pdf
</evidence>

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>add Iraqi Boeing 727 SIGINT and COMINT conversion</summary>
<detail>
According to the book Desert Storm Volume 1: the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and operation Desert Shield 1990-1991, Iraq converted a Boeing 727 to a ELINT platform.
I can't find any more information on it in the book, except that it was briefly locked on by a Kuwaiti Mirage during the Iraqi invasion.
</detail>
<evidence>
Hooton, E. R., & Cooper, T. (2019). Desert Storm. Volume 1: The Iraqi Invasion of Kuwait & Operation Desert Shield 1990–1991 (Middle East@War). Helion and Company. Page 22

More effective proved the conversion of a Boeing 727 airliner into a platform for COMINT- and SIGINT gathering, and data-links enabling it to fuse the collected information directly into the Kari's ADCOC in real time. Nick-named Faw-727, this aircraft became operational in early 1988.

</evidence>