Page 379 of 788

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 8:51 am
by Walloc
ORIGINAL: witpqs
ORIGINAL: Walloc

Hi Cap,

There is one thing u and the Birthday child might wana consider. Cuz of the early "scouting" in Darwin and jap gets a chance to attack there next turn. That could have the consequence that if u unload in next turn, but only "partially or what ever u might be exposed to an attack with high disruption cuz of unloading. So if u get a partial unload u might get defeated in detail.

This isnt a certain thing, depending on if he tries to attack, u unload capacity and so on. There could be merit in not unloading in the next turn, but there are dangers in it too so its not a clear cut thing. It could even work too ur advantage if he attacks and u get lots of AV offloaded. Just wanted to give a heads up.

Kind regards,

Rasmus
I'm thinking the opposite. If enough troops get ashore in good enough condition, plus the Imperials are disrupted by air attacks, then an Imperial attack could be disastrous for the Empire.

Some times i get the feeling only half i say is heard [;)]

Kind regards,

Rasmus

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:34 am
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Itdepends

Fixed
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

The latest offer from the Apaches is a hot dog stand at Tempe stadium and 20 Winchester repeating rifles. Still too low. Looks like Admirar Rord Nerson will be staying with the Apache for a while longer.


I think I follow you. You are suggesting we get the Apaches to pay US to take him back? Do you think they really would? Perhaps if we let them have him a few more days.

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:43 am
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Walloc

Some times i get the feeling only half i say is heard [;)]

Kind regards,

Rasmus

In medicine we consider it a major success if people listen to half of what we say. Even worse, half of the advice will be proven wrong in 5 years.[;)]


Unless we spot Musashi coming in, I think we will push ahead with the landing as the tranpsorts are loaded at 35-45%, allowing the bulk to get ashore on day 1 (or in this case day 2). The fighters on the carriers are getting tired and the attack on Wyndham was quite effective so probably the B-24's can go over to ground attack on Darwin today.

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:08 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: sprior


Which question am I supposed to be answering?

If you're refering to the targeting question then I worked on the launch systems, not fire control. However why would you do this if you're target wasn't defended by ABMs when both sides were only allowed one ABM site and the Russian Galosh system was around a place beginning with M?

Ah..so you targeted "L" then?

If you're refering to your question then it's okay because:

a. Nobody likes officers and
b. We came back in 1814 and burned down the Whitehouse:


So you admit the War of 1812 was really about payback?

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:20 pm
by sprior
So you admit the War of 1812 was really about payback?

No, it was about you lot wanting Canada.

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:58 pm
by Crackaces
ORIGINAL: sprior
So you admit the War of 1812 was really about payback?

No, it was about you lot wanting Canada.

and I thought it had to do with the Crowns displeasure with the US trading with France, the Crowns Impressment of US ships and crew, and the Crown's support of an asymetrical conflict with US expansion? We have a long history of "going all in" escalating things from LIC to MIC [;)]

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 1:00 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Walloc
ORIGINAL: witpqs
ORIGINAL: Walloc

Hi Cap,

There is one thing u and the Birthday child might wana consider. Cuz of the early "scouting" in Darwin and jap gets a chance to attack there next turn. That could have the consequence that if u unload in next turn, but only "partially or what ever u might be exposed to an attack with high disruption cuz of unloading. So if u get a partial unload u might get defeated in detail.

This isnt a certain thing, depending on if he tries to attack, u unload capacity and so on. There could be merit in not unloading in the next turn, but there are dangers in it too so its not a clear cut thing. It could even work too ur advantage if he attacks and u get lots of AV offloaded. Just wanted to give a heads up.

Kind regards,

Rasmus
I'm thinking the opposite. If enough troops get ashore in good enough condition, plus the Imperials are disrupted by air attacks, then an Imperial attack could be disastrous for the Empire.

Some times i get the feeling only half i say is heard [;)]

Kind regards,

Rasmus
Limited brain capacity - only one thought per post read! [:D]

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 1:19 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: sprior

b. We came back in 1814 and burned down the Whitehouse:

26 hours? Quite the conquest. [8|]

Looks like we had a Kamikaze of our own to help out:

Less than a day after the attack began, a sudden heavy thunderstorm put out most of the fires. It also spun off a tornado that passed through part of the city, killing British troops and American civilians alike, and tossing cannons.[22] The storm forced the British troops to return to their ships, many of which were badly damaged; the occupation of Washington lasted only about 26 hours.

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 1:21 pm
by sprior
tossing cannons

Isn't that illegal?

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 1:41 pm
by khyberbill
Isn't that illegal?
No, it is similar to Caber throws. We actually got the idea from your side of the pond.

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 2:03 pm
by Crackaces
ORIGINAL: khyberbill
Isn't that illegal?
No, it is similar to Caber throws. We actually got the idea from your side of the pond.

Tornadoes create their own laws ..an F5 will toss cannons & cabers at the same time .Tornadoes are.even known for creating their own laws of physics [;)]

http://charles-chandler.org/Geophysics/ ... ?text=full

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 2:19 pm
by BBfanboy
I think the original said "tossing cookies" but poor penmanship, quill pens and watery ink led readers to think the writer meant cannons ...

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 2:23 pm
by Chickenboy
Well, I think we're all in agreement that we can refer to RN seamen of the time as "tossers" based upon this historic tornado. Am I right?

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 2:24 pm
by khyberbill
Probably were tossing and turning all night.

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 2:34 pm
by Chickenboy
Highlanders...pfft...

Image

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 2:41 pm
by BBfanboy
Before you judge the Highlanders bravely assaulting uphill, note that they are led by a British officer [evidenced by the lack of kilt] who is calling for afternoon tea to be brought up ...

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 3:17 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Highlanders...pfft...

Image

Was Jackson's head really that small or did all the Engrish officer's have melon heads?

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:06 pm
by moore4807
It was the powdered wigs...

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 6:33 pm
by Alfred
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

We have two 6350 ton AE's headed for Gove (which is still a level 0 "port"). Are we going to be able to rearm the 16 inch guns of Washington and Indiana there?

I think somebody answered this in the more general sense but I was drinking at the time and can't remember.

The above as asked about 4 pages back. No one appears to have answered it.

It isn't the tonnage displacement which matters; it is the cargo carrying capacity which does.

Iowa class 16" guns need an AE/AKE with a cargo capacity of 5400 for a reload.
Other 16" guns need an AE/AKE with a cargo capacity of 4480 to reload.

These are the two largest Allied gun rearming supply hogs.

Alfred

RE: Hearts and Minds

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:24 pm
by sprior
a British officer [evidenced by the lack of kilt]

Scottish officers never wore kilts, they wore trews. Only the Other Ranks qualify as Jocks in frocks.