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ORIGINAL: Historiker

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

ORIGINAL: Nikademus





I don't know.....i think LOG! is a kinder gentler SLR.

"The Threat" sounds like something Barbara Walters would host. [:)]

He's German, what do you expect from militaristic, beer-drinking, lederhosen-wearing people who get put in jail for baating the snot out of people with their martial arts skills. [:D]

That was someone I knew, not me. [;)] And in fact, I'm wearing my Pickelhaube right now!

Achtung!

In a futile attempt to scare the mosquitoes away, no doubt.

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve


The only nuke vessels we have are CVN's and submarines. The only vessels that carry nukes are SSBN's. Every other country accepts the statement "we don't have nukes". New Zeland requires inspections. Basically they say, "of course we trust you. Now bend over so we can frisk you". [:D] This doesn't go over well.[:(]

Under the 2007 anti-nuclear legislation, inspections are not needed, and your word is good enough. The problem is that the USN has a policy, that states that in will no devoluge when a ship is caring nuclear weapons or not.

Denmark has a similar nuclear policy to New Zealand, and doesn't allow nuclear armed or propelled vessels to visit it's ports either. But the USN dose ban Danish ships from it's port, so one would wonder about the USN's policy towards us.

But Steve's reaction to my post, goes someway to explaining to me the American view of us. That we are not really important to them, and the fact that my Son has served with US service personnel lately, is of no value what so ever.

Cheer up, Big Bird. Its nothing personal. We hold the rest of the world in equal contempt, its not just NZ. [:D]

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve


The only nuke vessels we have are CVN's and submarines. The only vessels that carry nukes are SSBN's. Every other country accepts the statement "we don't have nukes". New Zeland requires inspections. Basically they say, "of course we trust you. Now bend over so we can frisk you". [:D] This doesn't go over well.[:(]

Under the 2007 anti-nuclear legislation, inspections are not needed, and your word is good enough. The problem is that the USN has a policy, that states that in will no devoluge when a ship is caring nuclear weapons or not.

Denmark has a similar nuclear policy to New Zealand, and doesn't allow nuclear armed or propelled vessels to visit it's ports either. But the USN dose ban Danish ships from it's port, so one would wonder about the USN's policy towards us.

But Steve's reaction to my post, goes someway to explaining to me the American view of us. That we are not really important to them, and the fact that my Son has served with US service personnel lately, is of no value what so ever.

Cheer up, Big Bird. Its nothing personal. We hold the rest of the world in equal contempt, its not just NZ. [:D]

I concur that. While US personell often try to show their respect in a way that almost seems unreal and thus almost played, we can't deny the facts. Compared with the US military, all of us are a joke. We have 4.500 soldiers in AFG now, and had to beg the US not to take away THEIR helicopters, so OUR wounded can be evacuated.
And how many soldiers do they have in AFG?

If we, inside the NATO, are honest: We can't do anythign without the US, and they can do everything without us. That doesn't really force a sense of taking everyone as an equal - which is perfectly understandable.

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

Cheer up, Big Bird. Its nothing personal. We hold the rest of the world in equal contempt, its not just NZ. [:D]

Thanks Oni, little red mice are very wise methinks. [;)]

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve


The only nuke vessels we have are CVN's and submarines. The only vessels that carry nukes are SSBN's. Every other country accepts the statement "we don't have nukes". New Zeland requires inspections. Basically they say, "of course we trust you. Now bend over so we can frisk you". [:D] This doesn't go over well.[:(]

Under the 2007 anti-nuclear legislation, inspections are not needed, and your word is good enough. The problem is that the USN has a policy, that states that in will no devoluge when a ship is caring nuclear weapons or not.

Denmark has a similar nuclear policy to New Zealand, and doesn't allow nuclear armed or propelled vessels to visit it's ports either. But the USN dose ban Danish ships from it's port, so one would wonder about the USN's policy towards us.

But Steve's reaction to my post, goes someway to explaining to me the American view of us. That we are not really important to them, and the fact that my Son has served with US service personnel lately, is of no value what so ever.

My reaction? Sorry Des, but you've got it backward. Every enounter I have had with Kiwi military forces has been more along the lines of your folks not having much desire to deal with us. I've had several Kiwi exchange officers who were hostile to coming here, and telling me frankly that they couldn't see much reason for the alliance, as NZ has no enemies and the USA has nothing but.

In 1991 George HW Bush pulled all tactical nukes off all us naval vessels . The only nuclear armed ships are SSBN's , which frankly , don't make port calls. Bush told the world, offered inspections, and that should have been that.

Des , New Zealand kicked the US out. And that's fine, that's your right and privilege.It's your country, your rules. And for 25 years both countries have accepted them. But if things have changed, then diplomats and leaders HAVE to talk. In 2010 a NZ ship pulled into Seattle. That was an opportunity. And it went no where. So please don't wave the "sacred alliance" here. There are bad feeling on BOTH sides. You kicked us out , we responded in kind. What's so hard to understand? But please don't go putting ALL the blame on the old EVIL USA. There is more than enough blame to go around. [:-]

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

Cheer up, Big Bird. Its nothing personal. We hold the rest of the world in equal contempt, its not just NZ. [:D]

Thanks Oni, little red mice are very wise methinks. [;)]

...and modest, and irresistible to women...and did I mention modest?

ORIGINAL: Historiker

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

ORIGINAL: DivePac88




Under the 2007 anti-nuclear legislation, inspections are not needed, and your word is good enough. The problem is that the USN has a policy, that states that in will no devoluge when a ship is caring nuclear weapons or not.

Denmark has a similar nuclear policy to New Zealand, and doesn't allow nuclear armed or propelled vessels to visit it's ports either. But the USN dose ban Danish ships from it's port, so one would wonder about the USN's policy towards us.

But Steve's reaction to my post, goes someway to explaining to me the American view of us. That we are not really important to them, and the fact that my Son has served with US service personnel lately, is of no value what so ever.

Cheer up, Big Bird. Its nothing personal. We hold the rest of the world in equal contempt, its not just NZ. [:D]

I concur that. While US personell often try to show their respect in a way that almost seems unreal and thus almost played, we can't deny the facts. Compared with the US military, all of us are a joke. We have 4.500 soldiers in AFG now, and had to beg the US not to take away THEIR helicopters, so OUR wounded can be evacuated.
And how many soldiers do they have in AFG?

If we, inside the NATO, are honest: We can't do anythign without the US, and they can do everything without us. That doesn't really force a sense of taking everyone as an equal - which is perfectly understandable.

Accept Ukraine into NATO. They have plenty of people. [:D]

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

Cheer up, Big Bird. Its nothing personal. We hold the rest of the world in equal contempt, its not just NZ. [:D]

Thanks Oni, little red mice are very wise methinks. [;)]

...and modest, and irresistible to women...and did I mention modest?

Not to mention, the great humility. [:D]

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

ORIGINAL: DivePac88




Thanks Oni, little red mice are very wise methinks. [;)]

...and modest, and irresistible to women...and did I mention modest?

Not to mention, the great humility. [:D]

Oh yes, red mice are extremely humble. We're, a million times more humble than any other mice, thats a fact!

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

ORIGINAL: DivePac88




Thanks Oni, little red mice are very wise methinks. [;)]

...and modest, and irresistible to women...and did I mention modest?

Not to mention, the great humility. [:D]

Does he also cause humidity? [;)]

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

ORIGINAL: DivePac88




Thanks Oni, little red mice are very wise methinks. [;)]

...and modest, and irresistible to women...and did I mention modest?

Not to mention, the great humility. [:D]

But I have heard that, they can be very windy. [:-]

ORIGINAL: Historiker

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

ORIGINAL: DivePac88




Under the 2007 anti-nuclear legislation, inspections are not needed, and your word is good enough. The problem is that the USN has a policy, that states that in will no devoluge when a ship is caring nuclear weapons or not.

Denmark has a similar nuclear policy to New Zealand, and doesn't allow nuclear armed or propelled vessels to visit it's ports either. But the USN dose ban Danish ships from it's port, so one would wonder about the USN's policy towards us.

But Steve's reaction to my post, goes someway to explaining to me the American view of us. That we are not really important to them, and the fact that my Son has served with US service personnel lately, is of no value what so ever.

Cheer up, Big Bird. Its nothing personal. We hold the rest of the world in equal contempt, its not just NZ. [:D]

I concur that. While US personell often try to show their respect in a way that almost seems unreal and thus almost played, we can't deny the facts. Compared with the US military, all of us are a joke. We have 4.500 soldiers in AFG now, and had to beg the US not to take away THEIR helicopters, so OUR wounded can be evacuated.
And how many soldiers do they have in AFG?

If we, inside the NATO, are honest: We can't do anythign without the US, and they can do everything without us. That doesn't really force a sense of taking everyone as an equal - which is perfectly understandable.

Having served with German forces in Iceland,Lajes Azores and Willow Grove Pennsylvannia (Primaily the Graf Zepplin squadron) I've never seen anything but friendly and professional relations....ok, there was that Fuzeball game in Iceland that got out of hand, but there was LOTS of beer involved and you kicked the ^^&*&^% out of us. [X(][8|][:D] But BESIDES THAT........[:D]

ORIGINAL: Historiker

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo




...and modest, and irresistible to women...and did I mention modest?

Not to mention, the great humility. [:D]

Does he also cause humidity? [;)]

Heat stroke.

ORIGINAL: Historiker

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo




...and modest, and irresistible to women...and did I mention modest?

Not to mention, the great humility. [:D]

Does he also cause humidity? [;)]

Only if He is over-rehydrate. [:D]

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

ORIGINAL: Historiker

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo





Cheer up, Big Bird. Its nothing personal. We hold the rest of the world in equal contempt, its not just NZ. [:D]

I concur that. While US personell often try to show their respect in a way that almost seems unreal and thus almost played, we can't deny the facts. Compared with the US military, all of us are a joke. We have 4.500 soldiers in AFG now, and had to beg the US not to take away THEIR helicopters, so OUR wounded can be evacuated.
And how many soldiers do they have in AFG?

If we, inside the NATO, are honest: We can't do anythign without the US, and they can do everything without us. That doesn't really force a sense of taking everyone as an equal - which is perfectly understandable.

Having served with German forces in Iceland,Lajes Azores and Willow Grove Pennsylvannia (Primaily the Graf Zepplin squadron) I've never seen anything but friendly and professional relations....ok, there was that Fuzeball game in Iceland that got out of hand, but there was LOTS of beer involved and you kicked the ^^&*&^% out of us. [X(][8|][:D] But BESIDES THAT........[:D]

Good to hear that. You know how I think about the US. [:)]

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo




...and modest, and irresistible to women...and did I mention modest?

Not to mention, the great humility. [:D]

Oh yes, red mice are extremely humble. We're, a million times more humble than any other mice, thats a fact!

Or is that one particular Bellorussian/Californian/New York mouse? [:D]

ORIGINAL: Historiker

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

ORIGINAL: Historiker


I concur that. While US personell often try to show their respect in a way that almost seems unreal and thus almost played, we can't deny the facts. Compared with the US military, all of us are a joke. We have 4.500 soldiers in AFG now, and had to beg the US not to take away THEIR helicopters, so OUR wounded can be evacuated.
And how many soldiers do they have in AFG?

If we, inside the NATO, are honest: We can't do anythign without the US, and they can do everything without us. That doesn't really force a sense of taking everyone as an equal - which is perfectly understandable.

Having served with German forces in Iceland,Lajes Azores and Willow Grove Pennsylvannia (Primaily the Graf Zepplin squadron) I've never seen anything but friendly and professional relations....ok, there was that Fuzeball game in Iceland that got out of hand, but there was LOTS of beer involved and you kicked the ^^&*&^% out of us. [X(][8|][:D] But BESIDES THAT........[:D]

Good to hear that. You know how I think about the US. [:)]

Besides, your guys had those really cool looking gray flight suits and leather jackets.....how can we NOT be in awe of such coolness!? [:D]

The Mouse is from Belorussia?

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

ORIGINAL: Historiker

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve




Having served with German forces in Iceland,Lajes Azores and Willow Grove Pennsylvannia (Primaily the Graf Zepplin squadron) I've never seen anything but friendly and professional relations....ok, there was that Fuzeball game in Iceland that got out of hand, but there was LOTS of beer involved and you kicked the ^^&*&^% out of us. [X(][8|][:D] But BESIDES THAT........[:D]

Good to hear that. You know how I think about the US. [:)]

Besides, your guys had those really cool looking gray flight suits and leather jackets.....how can we NOT be in awe of such coolness!? [:D]

[8D]

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo




...and modest, and irresistible to women...and did I mention modest?

Not to mention, the great humility. [:D]

But I have heard that, they can be very windy. [:-]

Only after Thanksgiving.....