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RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:55 pm
by Mike Solli
Yeah, you're right about the DDs. I'm scrounging more.
Here is Palembang. The 2 units just to the west of Palembang are tank regiments. Below that are a division, brigade, some artillery and 3 independent engineer regiments.

RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:20 am
by d0mbo
Do they shock attack when entering the palembang hex? If so, you might want to coordinate alle the units so they arrive in the hex at the same time.
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:27 am
by Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: d0mbo
Do they shock attack when entering the palembang hex? If so, you might want to coordinate alle the units so they arrive in the hex at the same time.
Yes, unless the attack comes from the hex to the NW of Palembang. Guess where I'm coming from?
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:45 am
by TheLoneGunman_MatrixForum
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: d0mbo
Do they shock attack when entering the palembang hex? If so, you might want to coordinate alle the units so they arrive in the hex at the same time.
Yes, unless the attack comes from the hex to the NW of Palembang. Guess where I'm coming from?
Excellent! Because I was just about to suggest that, hoping you would be patient enough for such an endeavor.
Such a move should also theoretically "isolate" Palembang from sending or receiving supplies to the rest of the island, correct? (With the exception of shipping by sea or by air obviously.)
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:04 pm
by Djordje
In my PBEM game I was also careful about attacking Palembang, and it proved to be just waste of my time. All I needed to do in the end was to invade over sea with one division and after first deliberate attack the base fell. No bombardment was needed, just simple invasion and attack day later.
Unless your opponent heavily reinforced it you should not be afraid of crossing river. Just go for the kill, you are already two months behind the schedule for it.
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:07 pm
by Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: TheLoneGunman
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: d0mbo
Do they shock attack when entering the palembang hex? If so, you might want to coordinate alle the units so they arrive in the hex at the same time.
Yes, unless the attack comes from the hex to the NW of Palembang. Guess where I'm coming from?
Excellent! Because I was just about to suggest that, hoping you would be patient enough for such an endeavor.
Such a move should also theoretically "isolate" Palembang from sending or receiving supplies to the rest of the island, correct? (With the exception of shipping by sea or by air obviously.)
Palembang has been isolated by sea and air for months. Only the land route still exists, but not for long.
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:12 pm
by Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: Djordje
In my PBEM game I was also careful about attacking Palembang, and it proved to be just waste of my time. All I needed to do in the ned was to invade over sea with one division and after first deliberate attack the base fell. No bombardment was needing, just simple invasion and attack day later.
Unless your opponent heavily reinforced it you should not be afraid of crossing river. Just go for the kill, you are already two months behind the schedule for it.
My concern over taking Palembang before Batavia and Singapore fell was Allied bombing of the oil fields. As I've said many times, I'm a conservative player. Whatever happens at Palembang, happens. If the oil fields are trashed, well, I guess that's the breaks. That's why I have 3 engineer regiments as part of the assault force. My intel says there are 5 units there. We'll see in a few days. I've actually had excellent luck taking industry relatively intact.
I will do what I can to influence the die roll and then let the die roll as it does.
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:30 pm
by Chickenboy
Speaking of repairing damaged oil production...are you dumping beaucoup supply into Miri so that it can repair its 150 damaged oil production?
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:32 pm
by Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
Speaking of repairing damaged oil production...are you dumping beaucoup supply into Miri so that it can repair its 150 damaged oil production?
Yup, it hasn't missed a day of repair. It's down to ~30 damaged oil remaining. It is offloading the last shipment of supply needed to take care of the remaining damaged oil.
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:33 pm
by BrucePowers
What's the diffrence between beaucoup supply and supply?[:D] Is beaucoup supply prettier? Is it supplyier?[:D]
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:34 pm
by BrucePowers
Hi Mike![:)]
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:37 pm
by Mike Solli
Hi Bruce. Beaucoup supply is French supply. Very good for repairing oil wells. [:D]
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:38 pm
by BrucePowers
[:D]
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:18 pm
by Cribtop
In my anecdotal experience, when a base falls to shock attack the odds of significant or even total destruction of facilities increases. For this reason, I always deliberate attack against major Oil/resource/HI centers.
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:21 pm
by Mike Solli
That's good to know, Cribtop. Shock attacks are rare occurances for me. I prefer deliberate attacks.
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:26 pm
by Cribtop
As I say, anecdotal experience only but I notice a correlation and it makes sense in the real world.
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:34 pm
by Mike Solli
Now that I think about it, the one instance I shock attacked to take a base that had industry in this PBEM, it happened at Singapore. That was the one base that was trashed when I took it. Coincidence? Don't know. I'm not going to take a chance though.
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:58 pm
by Mynok
You'd best hope you don't take the base when you shock attack across the river.
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:03 pm
by Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: Mynok
You'd best hope you don't take the base when you shock attack across the river.
I'm not going accross the river. I'm coming from this direction:

RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:36 pm
by Cribtop
Mike, if you read my AAR, that's exactly what happened to me - I wanted Singapore asap so I shock attacked and took the base. That's the only base I've ever taken in AE that was 100% damaged. Since then I've made sure to administer the final blow via deliberate attack.