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RE: Help for the board game

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:46 pm
by Reivaj
First thnaks to all.
The Italian unit, can be supplied by Ethiopia?

RE: Help for the board game

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:59 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: Reivaj

First thnaks to all.
The Italian unit, can be supplied by Ethiopia?
No secondary supply source (such as an HQ or a conquered capital) provides any supply UNLESS it can trace a path back to a Primary supply source (e.g., a city in Italy). There has to be a connection between the unit and a primary supply source or else the unit is out of supply. I think of sceondary supply sources as distribution/relay points. Calling them a supply 'source' was a bad choice of words by ADG. A supply 'node' would have been better.

RE: Help for the board game

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:06 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: SewerStarFish

Two points: 1) I misunderstood limited supply to require naval units ONLY in those sea areas that had enemy activity. 2) Since Italy is now actively allied with at least Germany and possibly w/Japan -- Is it feasable to supply E.African units with a combination of Axis naval units? Say in a push to take Suez -- or South Africa
ORIGINAL: Froonp
With Limited Overseas Supply, Italy would also need a TRS or AMPH in each sea area in order to trace supply through it
Or CP.
A lot of units, yes.
Italy starts with 7 CP.
Now you are into the area of the rules concerning co-operation (I just went over the code for those with a fine toothed comb last week). In this case the relevant points are that Germany and Italy cooperate with each other, but not with Japan. Japanese naval units can be used to build a supply chain across sea areas for Italian units, but supply still has to be traced back to Europe (not Japan).

RE: Help for the board game

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:29 pm
by Froonp
ORIGINAL: Reivaj

First thnaks to all.
The Italian unit, can be supplied by Ethiopia?
The capital of Ethiopia is not a primary supply source for Italian units.
It is the capital of a conquered minor country, so it is only a secondary supply source if it can itself trace back to a primary supply source of Italy.

RE: Help for the board game

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:45 am
by Reivaj
Thanks for your answers.

One more, the italian player have three units (two INF and one HQ) in the middle of the french Marroco (Vichi France).

First: can they be there?
Secon: Are they supplied?

One more time thanks!

RE: Help for the board game

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:10 am
by Frederyck
For the Italians to be in the Vichy controlled Morocco, two sets of rules have to be taken into account:

17.4 Running Vichy France, Access to Vichy Territory

These rules states that noAxis units may enter a Vichy controlled hex unless it is to collapse it, unless Vichy is an active Major power (ie an allied power has declared war on Vichy), in which case the country that installed Vichy may enter provided they adher to Foreign Troop Commitment (rule 18.2). If Vichy is active and hostile to a major power, the major power that installed Vichy can enter Vichy areas with impunity.

So my guess is that unless you made a special case of letting Italy declare Vichy, Germany did so. Then the Italians are not allowed on Vichy soil.

Regarding the supply -> the same rules apply as to the troops in Egypt. You have to trace a supply path back to an Italian (or German) homecountry city.

RE: Help for the board game

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:43 am
by Mziln
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