RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:59 am
This one is brand new. Patrice is asleep now (4:50 AM in Marseilles) or I would wait for him to add the isolated status indicators for th e2 USA units.
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RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:02 am
10 and last in the series. There are 2 more pages to go. Actually the 12th is already done and its a doozy. But I want to wait for the 11th and show them in order.
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:20 am
Very good, the abstract graphics incorporated in the tutorials!
This is much better than just highlightening the key concepts in the text.
Regards
This is much better than just highlightening the key concepts in the text.
Regards
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:10 pm
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
Nothing new here. it's included for completeness.
I'm looking at the example from Libya and wonder if all the Italian units are out of supply because Italy doesn't have any convoys, TRS's, amphs etc. in the Sea Zone bordering Tobruk. Is that the reason why they are out of supply? If so then it might be a good idea to mention that Italy has no sea supply.
Instinctively I would think that units at the coast and close to a port would be in supply so it necessary to explain why this is not the case here.
But again it's possible I'm rusty in understanding the supply rules I've overlooked something. [:D]
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:38 pm
Looks good. Just spotted a spelling error in the 2nd paragraph (suplpy instead of supply).ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
This one is brand new. Patrice is asleep now (4:50 AM in Marseilles) or I would wait for him to add the isolated status indicators for th e2 USA units.
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:17 pm
The new pages & abstracts look real nice.
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:46 pm
I typed that wrong so many times I now think of it as supplemental supply.ORIGINAL: Toed
Looks good. Just spotted a spelling error in the 2nd paragraph (suplpy instead of supply).ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
This one is brand new. Patrice is asleep now (4:50 AM in Marseilles) or I would wait for him to add the isolated status indicators for th e2 USA units.
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:47 pm
These look excellent.
Supply is one of the most difficult bits of the game to get your head around (still does my head in!). I think these do a pretty good job of explaining them.
I particularly like the overlay of the symbolic overseas supply on the various pages.
The indicator system seems to work well, howevr I wonder if in-game, there may be a benefit in having some kind of toggled filter on the map which would show which map hexes are in supply- say shading those OOS hexes?
On the text, totally nitpicking, but suggest avoid "Sardinia's" (page 8- ie "Sardinia is") the odd apostrophy to keep the flow of the text readable is fine ("it's", "doesn't" etc) but this one niggles me!
Supply is one of the most difficult bits of the game to get your head around (still does my head in!). I think these do a pretty good job of explaining them.
I particularly like the overlay of the symbolic overseas supply on the various pages.
The indicator system seems to work well, howevr I wonder if in-game, there may be a benefit in having some kind of toggled filter on the map which would show which map hexes are in supply- say shading those OOS hexes?
On the text, totally nitpicking, but suggest avoid "Sardinia's" (page 8- ie "Sardinia is") the odd apostrophy to keep the flow of the text readable is fine ("it's", "doesn't" etc) but this one niggles me!
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:56 pm
Ok.ORIGINAL: Jimm
These look excellent.
Supply is one of the most difficult bits of the game to get your head around (still does my head in!). I think these do a pretty good job of explaining them.
I particularly like the overlay of the symbolic overseas supply on the various pages.
The indicator system seems to work well, howevr I wonder if in-game, there may be a benefit in having some kind of toggled filter on the map which would show which map hexes are in supply- say shading those OOS hexes?
On the text, totally nitpicking, but suggest avoid "Sardinia's" (page 8- ie "Sardinia is") the odd apostrophy to keep the flow of the text readable is fine ("it's", "doesn't" etc) but this one niggles me!
You have to realize that I have about twice as much to say about most pages. I start with way too much text and then, like Hemingway [:D], I pare the text down by going over and over it, removing everything I possibly can. Once I have it stripped to what I consider the naked core, I add some of the 'touches' back in. Still, there is so much more that could be added.[:(]
In the beginning of creating the tutorials, I decided that all the comments had to fit within the text column on the right. The space allocated for the text and the screen shots would be absolutely unchangeable. That has been a tough decision to live with - though I still feel it was the correct decision.
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:59 pm
Two more new pages. You might note that we are now up to 13 pages for the supply tutorial. Want to guess what the 13th is?
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:01 pm
2nd and last in series. As for all the pages of this tutorial, the screenshots and abstracts are by Patrice.
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:22 pm
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
Ok.
You have to realize that I have about twice as much to say about most pages. I start with way too much text and then, like Hemingway [:D], I pare the text down by going over and over it, removing everything I possibly can. Once I have it stripped to what I consider the naked core, I add some of the 'touches' back in. Still, there is so much more that could be added.[:(]
In the beginning of creating the tutorials, I decided that all the comments had to fit within the text column on the right. The space allocated for the text and the screen shots would be absolutely unchangeable. That has been a tough decision to live with - though I still feel it was the correct decision.
Yep I understand the constraints, Steve. Its just a comment.
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:20 pm
This last tutorial almost seems to imply that HQ's are tertiary supply sources and cannot trace a rail supply path.
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:16 pm
Well, I don't agree with that. But examining the map again I think I see what you are getting at.ORIGINAL: Zorachus99
This last tutorial almost seems to imply that HQ's are tertiary supply sources and cannot trace a rail supply path.
First, pages 10 and 11 give clear examples of HQs serving as Secondary supply sources. And the southern HQ on page 12 does too.
But you are right if you are referring to the fact that with a Basic supply path of 4 hexes ALL the German HQs can reach a rail line that leads back to Germany. Therefore on this page they are all Secondary supply sources in Fine weather.
I'll rework the text.
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:05 am
People don't always agree with me, but more viewpoints to a subject you see, the better you can Grok it. ;)
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:03 am
Showing your age. I'm a stranger here myself.ORIGINAL: Zorachus99
People don't always agree with me, but more viewpoints to a subject you see, the better you can Grok it. ;)
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:19 am
In the screenshot the HQ's are secondaries because they can trace rail supply. Good examples of Tertiary supply are almost always experienced in Africa actually. The lack of rail lines makes them extremely easy to produce. Europe is just a tangle of rail lines.
Great to hear someone out there has taken time to read one of Heinleins finest works. I daresay I prefer Silverberg much more however...
[8D]
Great to hear someone out there has taken time to read one of Heinleins finest works. I daresay I prefer Silverberg much more however...
[8D]
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:30 am
I've probably read close to 1000 SciFi books. I recommend Snow Crash, though the author's name eludes me at the moment.ORIGINAL: Zorachus99
In the screenshot the HQ's are secondaries because they can trace rail supply. Good examples of Tertiary supply are almost always experienced in Africa actually. The lack of rail lines makes them extremely easy to produce. Europe is just a tangle of rail lines.
Great to hear someone out there has taken time to read one of Heinleins finest works. I daresay I prefer Silverberg much more however...
[8D]
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:33 am
Its Neal Stephenson and Cryptonomicon is also really excellent
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:11 pm
The last page. I still need to go back and rework the text for page 12.
