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Hi all,

ORIGINAL: m10bob

ORIGINAL: Gem35

a$$-kissing will not get AE finished any more faster...[;)]

Well that tears it !!

Leo "Apollo11"

So its out next week with a hopefull look on his face... Dam yankes ...its worth the squeeze...depends on what you are squeein....are we there yet. [:(]

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

This sounds intriguing. But the one thing I've never figured out (after 20+ years of project experience) is how to write an accurate 1,600 page manual, 18 months prior to releasing the system!!
[:D]

Back in the 80's one system at work was done with the manual written before the system was written. The idea was logical, but so are many bad ideas!

ORIGINAL: witpqs

Back in the 80's one system at work was done with the manual written before the system was written.

That might be great - if the programmers looked at the manual!
[:D]

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

ORIGINAL: witpqs

Back in the 80's one system at work was done with the manual written before the system was written.

That might be great - if the programmers looked at the manual!
[:D]

Manual? What manual? What is manual? [:D]


Leo "Apollo11"

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

ORIGINAL: witpqs

Back in the 80's one system at work was done with the manual written before the system was written.

That might be great - if the programmers looked at the manual!
[:D]

Luckily....WE don't need no stinking manuals !!

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

This sounds intriguing. But the one thing I've never figured out (after 20+ years of project experience) is how to write an accurate 1,600 page manual, 18 months prior to releasing the system!!
[:D]

Back in the 80's one system at work was done with the manual written before the system was written. The idea was logical, but so are many bad ideas!

To write a 300-page manual from scratch is a person-year or a little more. To revise an existing 300-page manual is around four person-months. These are direct costs. Multiply by about 2 to get the total costs.

Your data may apply in Academia.
Discuss your estimates with professional technical writers or editors.
You will be suprised.

So how is AE going, anyway? Working on the AI primarily these days? How's that going?

Well and badly we ended up abandoning efforts on the AI as was and our in house programming team have re written it.
 
Which means we are in re input mode at present last weekend I did the Japanese AI 30 hours of input over 2 days !!!!
 
This weekend its India and the Brits for me doing Ceylon command as I sit here now
 
Lots to do before we can get back to testing.
 
The AI really has been the hardest part of this.....

we dont need no stinkin AI either!!! PBEM all the way

Well, that's not what the poll said way back when...

ORIGINAL: undercovergeek



we dont need no stinkin AI either!!! PBEM all the way

Grow up.

your problem is?

OKOKOK stop right there the AI may be what I and some others are personally working on (which is why its what I bitch about) but there is more than enough that the other teams are still on and debugging that no one thing is responsible for it not being out there yet - we all have a lot to do it will be ready when its ready
 
If I gave any other impression then it was unintentional
 
 

never thought anything else - it was a casual aside that at least I and one other person on here (my PBEM opponent) wont need an AI, i shouldnt have poked such a wasps nest apologies - still not sure what upset GEm so much [&:]

Sorry undercovergeek, I am just crabby today... been "one of those days" no offense, Sir.
I am an AI fan of the game and I understand you enjoy PBEM's, appologies for being "obtuse" earlier.

I enjoy playing the AI too, so I was glad to see Andy's post indicating that the team is working hard on it. 30 hours of input! Ugh.

Due to my off work hours, and other obligations, AI is my only option.  I appreciate the work put into it.  ahhhhhhh  if it was only here......

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

ORIGINAL: romanovich

Maybe Matrix could pre-release the manual? That way, we would have sufficient time to work through the 1,600 pages of small-printed explanations of the games's revised algorithms. That way we'd be ready for the Nov. 1, '09 release date. 

This sounds intriguing. But the one thing I've never figured out (after 20+ years of project experience) is how to write an accurate 1,600 page manual, 18 months prior to releasing the system!!
[:D]

So, now I can't help myself and have to probe a bit further. I think I read in earlier exchanges that there will be a date, let's call it M, when you guys hand off to Matrix. With the AI being the stubborn beast it is, M might be August for all I can guess. But what happens then? Did you mean to say no manual has been written yet? So Matrix needs to do that after M? Design cover art and fancy intro graphics? Go on a corporate spa and whitewater rafting retreat to debate pricing on this thing? So release is going to be what: M+60? M+90? How long will it take to do the manual and the spa treatment?

Trying to figure out if I should curtail my habit of checking every other day for progress reports, or rather check back in October to see where it's at...

Any hints you're willing to drop? [&:]