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RE: Nevea

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:44 pm
by borner
another turn, another AP (just damaged though). 

RE: Nevea

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:50 pm
by Ike99
And how goes Grenadier?


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RE: Nevea

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:57 pm
by borner
i will have to check..... I did not see that on my replay. got one of IKE's big AP's, torped another and an additional smaller AP this turn in the happy hunting grounds.

RE: Nevea

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:18 pm
by borner
Sorry to disappoint IKE, but that sub will only need a week in port or so. The crew was due for liberty anyway  

RE: Nevea

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:20 pm
by borner
IKE sends his carriers NW of Luganville, and his planes fly on the port. Nothing sunk, we will see if my carriers can catch his. Most of my subs have now had to leave the Rabaul area to re-load. It was fun while it lasted.
 
 
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/23/42
Weather: Partly Cloudy
Sub attack at 20,18
 
Japanese Ships
TK Toei Maru, Torpedo hits 1
 
Allied Ships
SS S-37
 
 
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Air attack on TF, near Luganville at 53,53
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 63
A6M3 Zero x 4
D3A Val x 109
 
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 142
Beaufighter VIC x 11
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 32 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 1 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 1 destroyed
D3A Val x 33 destroyed
D3A Val x 14 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 47 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 24 damaged
Beaufighter VIC x 3 destroyed
Beaufighter VIC x 2 damaged
 
WO A. Shirane of AI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 6
 
Allied Ships
DD Stack, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
DD Gridley, Bomb hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Smith, Bomb hits 1
APD Gregory, Bomb hits 1
APD Manley
DD Ellet
DD Ralph Talbot
DD Conyngham
DD Blue, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
DD Lamson
DD Lang
DD Wilson
DD Cummings
APD Colhoun
DD Mugford
DD Sterett
 
 
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Sub attack at 17,18
 
Japanese Ships
AP Asahisan Maru, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire
 
Allied Ships
SS S-42
 
 
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RE: Nevea

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:50 pm
by Miller
33 Vals lost for nothing.......and its not like Ike to commit his strength to offensive operations unless he thinks its worth the risk.

RE: Nevea

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:01 pm
by borner
i have been running fast transport TF's in the area and I think he was trying to catch one.

RE: Nevea

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:34 pm
by borner
ike left... I sent my CV's a bit west to see if I can get them to react back to me, but I doubt it. Oh, got another AP!  [:D]

RE: Nevea

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:57 pm
by Ike99
33 Vals lost for nothing.......and its not like Ike to commit his strength to offensive operations unless he thinks its worth the risk.

Trying to get his mine sweeper groups going between Nevea and Luganville, spotted the wrong group.
ike left... I sent my CV's a bit west to see if I can get them to react back to me, but I doubt it.

No chance of pulling me into your land based air. I kept at extended range. I did that mistake the last game remember?

RE: Nevea

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:38 pm
by borner
well, one can always hope

RE: Nevea

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:46 pm
by borner
ok, I know ya'll are tired of reading this... but...... another turn, another AP - a big one took a torp and 5 shell hits. Plus another AP hit a mine. Several of my subs now have minor sys damage from surface fights with his AP's, so there will be  a brief break in the sub war I think. I am going to miss it, this was several turns in a row I managed to hit something over there.

RE: Nevea

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:43 pm
by Ike99
SSshhhh...


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RE: Nevea

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:56 pm
by HansBolter
Before Ralf threw in the towel, we had quite a little fight going on over Nevea. I kicked him off of both it and Wunpuko so he came back for another round at Nevea. He had the sea and air lanes pretty well covered and was flying LRCAP over Nevea from Irau and Lunga.

I repeatedly flew C47s and even Catalinas into Nevea in the teeth of the LRCAP losing on average 4-6 transports per day. In spite of the losses (the C47 pool was huge) I succeeded in getting enough of them through carrying both men and supplies that he was never able to get the upper hand on the island.

The Allies can sustain those C47 losses pretty well if the need is great enough to warrant risking them.

RE: Nevea

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:25 pm
by Ike99
Before Ralf threw in the towel, we had quite a little fight going on over Nevea. I kicked him off of both it and Wunpuko so he came back for another round at Nevea.

I´m not going that far. I just bother him a little until he comes closer.

RE: Nevea

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:46 pm
by HansBolter
ORIGINAL: Ike99
Before Ralf threw in the towel, we had quite a little fight going on over Nevea. I kicked him off of both it and Wunpuko so he came back for another round at Nevea.

I´m not going that far. I just bother him a little until he comes closer.

Yes, I think you are playing smart Ike. Playing for the long haul. I'm currently playing my first PBEM game as the Japanese against Borner with the same strategy. I'm just not as skilled at it as you are.

I was just pointing out that if the Allies are willing to sustain some losses in transport aircraft they can get enough through to make a difference in an operation. Allied players shouldn't necessarily avoid the tactic if the gains justify it.

RE: Nevea

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:56 am
by borner
trying to maintain a cap over the base will cost IKE more planes than he wants to loose. He always likes to keep his good pilots for the big battle in the second half of the game. He did send a bombardment group in this turn, but I think that was to see if he could catch any ships at the base

RE: Nevea

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:15 pm
by Ike99
The Score


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RE: Nevea

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:50 pm
by HansBolter
I'm impressed with how low the OPs losses are for both sides.

My game with Todd is in mid Septermber '42 and I have over 500 Ops losses while Todd has over 800.

RE: Nevea

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:54 pm
by Miller
In the only game I have played through to the end of 43 I lost 3500 a/c to ops losses (playing as the IJN). Just flying to and from a target is a challenge for late war Jap pilots[:(]

RE: Nevea

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:54 pm
by Kingfisher
You guys must really be pulling your punches if the combined A/C loss is less than 500 in six months of combat.