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ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger

Well, I have run dozens of PH attacks, and I can safely say Erik is 100% correct. I have seen the gauntlet as well. This one has been my single biggest success quite frankly. 1 or 2 BBs is typical. I wouldnt even go as far to say that 4 BBs is the norm (at least from what I have seen). One thing I will say though in run after run, Jap aircraft losses are on the light side.

They always could. I tend to use some of them to get out BF, AA, and Engineers from Luzon to China by using them. I play with various mods and as long as a base in China has a port, you can do this.

ORIGINAL: Terminus

ORIGINAL: pad152

Most ships seem to be one hit wonders, this looks more like the Brit Navy (aluminum ships) in the Falklands then steel ships of WWII! 

Again, this was an extraordinarily successful PH attack. Don't make a general assumption based on it.

ORIGINAL: Dili

They always could. I tend to use some of them to get out BF, AA, and Engineers from Luzon to China by using them. I play with various mods and as long as a base in China has a port, you can do this.

Hehe always something missing, always something to learn...i played witp several times and didn't know that one.

ORIGINAL: AdmSpruance

Im a bit concerned about the effectiveness of the IJN midget subs....2 torpedo hits on 2 seperate BBs....is this an unusual result?

Do IJN midget subs automatically penetrate Pearl Harbor at the start or is there a die roll to see if they make it through the anti-submarine nets? Is there a die roll for US ASW ships such as the Ward to attack them before they enter the harbor? Are IJN midget subs going to be restricted to the the actual number that were placed in service in RL?

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen


The midgets must successfully launch, not get lost, get past the TFs off Pearl (one ASW and one minesweeping), get through the nets, and the minefields, navigate the channel, and survive any engagement with ASW capable ships inside the harbor.

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen


The midgets must successfully launch, not get lost, get past the TFs off Pearl (one ASW and one minesweeping), get through the nets, and the minefields, navigate the channel, and survive any engagement with ASW capable ships inside the harbor.

It's random at every stage and every result is possible. Two getting in is quite rare, but it is certainly possible for all five to make it. With randoms, you could possibly see any and (eventually) all possible outcomes. Once again, don't get excited about any one outcome.

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Extrapolating anything from one combat report, especially with FOW, is pretty futile. But, I totally understand why everything is scrutinized and why all the questions are asked. You guys only have these results to go on and curiosity and anticipation are very high.

With that said, I always thought that the surprise attacks on December 7th actually were not typical attacks, in that they had several bonuses/penalties applied for the Japanese and Allies that don't apply on other turns (as long as Surprise is on). I don't think that has changed in AE, so I would be particularly cautious about extrapolating from a Dec. 7th surprise attack to make any assumptions about the game.

I can say for sure though that the last replay of the PH attack that I did this morning 2 BBs were lost and more Japanese planes were shot down. My sense is that the median is about 4 BBs lost, but I've seen just about every possible result. I have no idea what the average flak losses at PH are in AE, haven't really tried to keep track of that, though I know others on the team have spent a lot of time over development fine tuning many parts of the design for historical results, including flak losses.

I encourage you all to ask questions, but I also encourage you _not_ to jump to conclusions.

Regards,

- Erik

ORIGINAL: Shark7
You can understand where most of us would jump at those conclusions, given that in standard WiTP if I sink two ships total with my PH strike I consider it an extraordinary event. My general result seems to be a lot of heavy damage but few sinkings.