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RE: Most innacurate war movies

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:47 pm
by t001001001
I didn't see Sahara as being any sort of historical ww2 movie, just a story w/ ww2 in the desert as a backdrop.  I thought the story was quite good actually.  The French character was cool:  "Me and the nazi will take a walk, I'll come back in a few minutes." And when the tank 'surrendered' to the lone indian soldier they spotted at long range who was setting up to assault them (he couldn't identify the friendly tank from that range w/o optics), so they wouldn't have to shoot him [8D]

RE: Most innacurate war movies

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:01 pm
by E
ORIGINAL: Culiacan Mexico
ORIGINAL: jacksy

Did you foget about HMS Bulldog? She captured U110 in 1941 including an Enigma machine, secret documents and keys

HMS Bulldog/U110 incident didn't seem to a make much of a difference.

Did both of you forget about the Poles? *grin*

ORIGINAL: Culiacan Mexico

I don't like the Battle of the Bulge (Movie), U571, etc not because they may or may not be entertaining, but because the Writers/Directors/etc have a great opportunity to tell a story... on subjects with great depth... and then proceed to throw it away.

They seem to be lazy.

You must remember their point of view. They weren't trying to tell a story (per se'). They were trying to make money. And I'd wager they succeeded very, very well in the case of the Battle of the Bulge. You/we call it lazy, they call it economics. You must also remember the time frame the movie was made. Accuracy in war movies was not the rage, to say the least. It was a different time. But more importantly, a different target audience.


RE: Most innacurate war movies

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:28 pm
by Titanwarrior89
I watch for that if I ever see it again. Spent many ahour in those!!
ORIGINAL: gunny

Oh here's a good one. El Alemaine when the British M113's dropped their ramps and the Tommies ran out A'la perfect 1980 mechanized assault syle dressed in their pot helmets with enfields and knee socks.

RE: Most innacurate war movies

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:08 am
by V22 Osprey
Pearl Harbor and 300.

Pearl Harbor:Too emotional for my taste.I want to see the battle, not a soap opera.[8|]

300:TOO MUCH.Fighting scenes were badass, but it seemed everyone in the movie was deformed![X(]

RE: Most innacurate war movies

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:04 am
by Obsolete
Every time I look at this thread I get depressed, because I know I am going to have to sit down and watch that Pearl Harbour with the gf soon.  Grrrrr!!!!   Unfortunately, I have no choice in the matter, so I'm just going to do the only thing I can do to get even, I"m going to cheer as loud as I possibly can when anything American get's sunk or destroyed.  Then maybe she'll think twice next time before forcing me to sit in for a war/romance movie (yuk).

I have Battle of the Bulge on my to-watch list, but at least it doesn't have that romance-love from what I hear, so I'm willing to give it a shot.  Though I'm wincing already because I've seen the ending before.

Anyhow, I forgot to add one more nominie. 

Dune!

That whole spice thing was all innacurate, and the way the book portrayed the Harkonnens was much different than the movie.. and...    

Just kidding.


Though I wonder if anyone would be interested in a similar thread on the worst War-Game, instead of movie. 



RE: Most innacurate war movies

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:24 am
by Hanal
ORIGINAL: Obsolete

Every time I look at this thread I get depressed, because I know I am going to have to sit down and watch that Pearl Harbour with the gf soon.  Grrrrr!!!!   Unfortunately, I have no choice in the matter, so I'm just going to do the only thing I can do to get even, I"m going to cheer as loud as I possibly can when anything American get's sunk or destroyed.  Then maybe she'll think twice next time before forcing me to sit in for a war/romance movie (yuk).

I have Battle of the Bulge on my to-watch list, but at least it doesn't have that romance-love from what I hear, so I'm willing to give it a shot.  Though I'm wincing already because I've seen the ending before.

Anyhow, I forgot to add one more nominie. 

Dune!

That whole spice thing was all innacurate, and the way the book portrayed the Harkonnens was much different than the movie.. and...    

Just kidding.


Though I wonder if anyone would be interested in a similar thread on the worst War-Game, instead of movie. 



When you watch Bulge, just remember you are not watching a documentary on the History channel because you'll definately not enjoy it if all you plan to do is pick it apart. As the dedication at the end of the movie states, events have been "generalized" and the action has been "synthesized" to convey the "essence" of the battle. Take it in the spirit as it was intended and you might be pleasantly surprised.

Oh and if we wanted to start a thread on best military movie soundtrack, Benjamin Frankel's score for Bulge would be near the top of the list!

RE: Most innacurate war movies

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:47 am
by SS Hauptsturmfuhrer
The thought of ever seeing that Battle of the Bulge movie again makes me go cold with fear.   I just saw it for the first time last year when a nutter of a friend actually told me it was good and so I was conned into watching it.  Apparently reading historical fiction and intellectual social theory books has kept him naive.  

RE: Most innacurate war movies

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:22 pm
by DivePac88
ORIGINAL: Obsolete

Every time I look at this thread I get depressed, because I know I am going to have to sit down and watch that Pearl Harbour with the gf soon.  Grrrrr!!!!   Unfortunately, I have no choice in the matter, so I'm just going to do the only thing I can do to get even, I"m going to cheer as loud as I possibly can when anything American get's sunk or destroyed.  Then maybe she'll think twice next time before forcing me to sit in for a war/romance movie (yuk).

Now listen here old chap, you have to make a stand here, there are bad movies, and there are just plain horrible movies. And that movie (that cannot be named) is in the latter category; it is the worst movie I’ve seen (ten minutes until I saw the Sprague class destroyers). It is so bad it makes Lucile Ball reruns look good, and it is bad for your soul to watch something like that. [;)]

RE: Most innacurate war movies

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:51 pm
by Obsolete
Christ... I'm getting a heart-attack here.



RE: Most inaccurate war movies

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:14 pm
by jeffk3510
I know it has been said time and time again... but the one that sticks out in my mind above all is Pearl Harbor......too bad Josh Hartnett and Ben Affleck wern't around at Pearl Harbor....it would have been much worse for those Jap pilots had they been...

RE: Most innacurate war movies

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:57 pm
by knilli
my favourites is
[ol][*]Die Brücke (1959) (writer) (uncredited)
... aka The Bridge (USA)
[/ol]from bernhard wicki  (source: imdb.com)

old, black and white, simple in the making but very intense and quite accurate. (just some boys defending a bridge, somewhere, put there to be out of harm during the last few days of ww2, alone without commander they do what they where told...fight) and sad!

for stalingrad: i liked it. as for my father who fought on the eastern front....he thought it was ok. some inaccuracies but  ok.

i like the  "soldier ryan", but only the first 10-15 mins (when the landing forces storm the beach, with all the special effects, quite intensive)
the longest day, i like it, totally accurate or not - i like it :) ) most of the rest is, imho, crap.



RE: Most innacurate war movies

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:49 am
by Jonathan Pollard
One incident from a Communist Chinese or North Korean war movie comes to mind, a US general had a stock ticker at his command post which he frequently checked and expressed joy at the profits he was making.

Another incident from a Japanese WW2 movie (I think it was "Victory Song of the Orient") created especially for the Philippines has a US general in a bomb-proof cave in the Philippines order the machine-gunning of Filipino troops that were trying to enter to gain shelter from an artillery barrage. He referred to the Filippino soldiers as "monkeys." Actually, the monkey reference could be historically accurate, one of the songs popular among US troops in the Philippines of that era is called "The Monkeys have no tails in Zamboanga."

http://www.zamboanga.com/html/monkeys_of_zamboanga.htm