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RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:15 pm
by Erik Rutins
Cerix, and everyone else,
ORIGINAL: Cerix
no, he said that the manual was good but should not talk about religion, and frankly I agree.
it is not the same as discussing religion, he talked about the manual.
This is not the place for this. If you have any concerns, please e-mail me at
erikr@matrixgames.com. As far as I can see, the manual does not "talk about" religion. It has one personal note of thanks in the credits, which is effectively the same as the one that thanks our families.
If anyone wants to discuss this, please e-mail me.
Regards,
- Erik
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:15 pm
by Erik Rutins
ORIGINAL: Mobeer
Is this the same manual that will come with the game? The web site promises "Printed 196 page COLOR manual (boxed copy only)" but the PDF has many more pages?
Yep, we increased the size of the manual since we posted that, but forgot to update the entry on the product page. Thanks for pointing that out! The product page is due for a refresh before release in any case.
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:02 pm
by Mobeer
ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
ORIGINAL: Mobeer
Is this the same manual that will come with the game? The web site promises "Printed 196 page COLOR manual (boxed copy only)" but the PDF has many more pages?
Yep, we increased the size of the manual since we posted that, but forgot to update the entry on the product page. Thanks for pointing that out! The product page is due for a refresh before release in any case.
Cool - think I'll have to take a long weekend to get through it
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:32 pm
by ETF
Thanks Guys the Manual looks great. Excellent work.
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:45 pm
by ETF
ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
Japan,
This is exactly why we have a prohibition on discussions of religion (and politics) on our forum. It's something too many people feel passionately about, one way or another. I'm surprised that you can't understand that it's our business if we want to add a note like that to our credits in our manual. That note has been in all our credits (the Matrix Games side) since we founded this company, since some of the founders have strong faith in God and those that don't still respect their beliefs. The credits section is specifically where personal notes like this should go and has nothing to do with the rest of the manual, which is about the game.
Having mention of religion in our credits does not mean that it's OK to discuss it here. The manual itself was also not posted in the forum, only a link to an article that had a link to download it for offline reading.
We respect the beliefs and opinions of our customers and we hope that you would also respect ours as well as our forum rules. You are, in fact, discussing religion again, after you were just warned not to do so on this forum. While I have nothing against you expressing your opinions via e-mail, posting about on this on the forum is against the rules. As a result, you are once again banned for two weeks.
Regards,
- Erik
Erik I respect you, your company and your right to place whatever you wish in your manual. I do though have to say I do find it somewhat offensive like Japan. I wish I didn't but I do. I'm surprised though that you did put your personal beliefs in such a, hopefully widely distributed product. You must realize that some of your valued customers might feel uumm uncomfortable. I just wanted to express my honest opinion. Looking forward to your release and enjoying all your hard work.
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:55 pm
by Erik Rutins
As I said above, if anyone has any concerns about this, please e-mail me at
erikr@matrixgames.com. The forum is not the place for these discussions. Thank you.
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:28 am
by goodwoodrw
Have got a cost for the game yet?
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:50 am
by wworld7
You would have seen something about price by now if they had.
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:29 am
by yoshino
Thanks Erik and Dev team! The manual is great things.
Usually,I don't buy any phisical products of Matrix beause of shipping cost to Japan.but I can't help but buy this one[:D]
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:02 am
by Flying Tiger
ORIGINAL: bobogoboom
ORIGINAL: Terminus
You're not fooling anyone, Japan...
can we ban japan permenantly PLEASE!!!
[post edited so i dont get kicked out of here. But thanks for taking at least temporary action Erik!]
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:15 pm
by Sardaukar
Green button....green button.. [8D]
And don't worry, "Japan" does not represent Scandinavians...at least not the sort of Scandinavians I know...[:'(]
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:33 pm
by Anthropoid
ORIGINAL: Sardaukar
Green button....green button.. [8D]
And don't worry, "Japan" does not represent Scandinavians...at least not the sort of Scandinavians I know...[:'(]
What like . . . the rest of you are not so politically correct, but instead smelly fur-accoutred coastal raiders hell-bent on raping and pillaging your way south? [:D]
Hate to feed it, but . . . I find the complaints about a one-sentence acknowledgement on page 322 to be _way_ out of line. I wish there was a word in English for sentiments of insincerely trumped-up hyper-sensitivity; the era of political correctness and ultra-relativism seems to have promoted this temperament excessively and I'm tired of seeing it in my classrooms, let alone a game forum.
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:43 pm
by DivePac88
ORIGINAL: Anthropoid
What like . . . the rest of you are not so politically correct, but instead smelly fur-accourted coastal raiders hell-bent on raping and pillaging your way south? [:D]
I think you got Scandinavians mixed up with Aussies old son. [:D]
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:53 pm
by Kull
ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
Anything that should be corrected (hopefully there won't be much!) we'll correct in the PDF version that comes in the gold master.
A few minor items:
1) There's a typo on the table on Page 99. The left side of the table has a listing for "Panam
s (Cristobal)".
2) On page 309 (Maneuver System), the text reads:
An aircraft that once dominated at all levels has been modified to, under the right
circumstances, be able to surprise an erstwhile superior opponent by maximizing its potential
in a band of altitude where it excels.
The statement is essentially meaningless unless reworded to indicate that inferior aircraft types have the ability to surprise superior opponents.
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:13 pm
by Kull
3) The screenshot at the top of page 89 refers to "Upgrade Floatation Damage", while the description in the manual (same page) spells it "Upgrade Flotation Damage". Technically both are correct, but you should only use one or the other.
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:19 pm
by Flying Tiger
ORIGINAL: DivePac88
ORIGINAL: Anthropoid
What like . . . the rest of you are not so politically correct, but instead smelly fur-accourted coastal raiders hell-bent on raping and pillaging your way south? [:D]
I think you got Scandinavians mixed up with Aussies old son. [:D]
Hey now DivePac. Watch who you're picking on mate!! Remember that NZ was originally just another bit of Australia....
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:28 pm
by Kull
4) On page 102, "Example using method 1" section, line 4: ....an “on-map”move is plotted to Cristobal.... There is no space between "on-map" and "move". From a basic proofreading perspective, this is one of the more worrisome errors as its easily spotted and highlighted by standard software spellchecking programs. I'm pretty sure there are others of this ilk, so you really should run the whole document through the spellchecker again.
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:32 pm
by Sardaukar
ORIGINAL: Anthropoid
What like . . . the rest of you are not so politically correct, but instead smelly fur-accourted coastal raiders hell-bent on raping and pillaging your way south? [:D]
Hate to feed it, but . . . I find the complaints about a one-sentence acknowledgement on page 322 to be _way_ out of line. I wish there was a word in English for sentiments of insincerely trumped hyper-sensitivity; the era of political correctness and ultra-relativism seems to have promoted this temperament excessively and I'm tired of seeing it in my classrooms, let alone a game forum.
Nowadays they'd called "misunderstood traders, who sometimes, for social reasons and with bad childhood, expressed their hurt by sailing to distant lands and committing atrocities". [:'(]
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:45 pm
by Kull
5) On page 312, "IJN Surface Combatants" section, line 6, there is reference to the Japanes cruiser "Oii". In WitP this ship is named "Oi". Is the extra "i" a typo or the correct name?
RE: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:53 pm
by DivePac88
ORIGINAL: Flying Tiger
ORIGINAL: DivePac88
ORIGINAL: Anthropoid
What like . . . the rest of you are not so politically correct, but instead smelly fur-accourted coastal raiders hell-bent on raping and pillaging your way south? [:D]
I think you got Scandinavians mixed up with Aussies old son. [:D]
Hey now DivePac. Watch who you're picking on mate!! Remember that NZ was originally just another bit of Australia....
Listen here mate (choking on a jellybean)… yes we used to be the good part, and still are. [;)]