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RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:28 pm
by John Lansford
There is nothing redeemable about the Movie That Shall Not Be Named. Nothing at all.
The special effects? You liked that the Oklahoma somehow lifted itself out of the water and rotated until it was upside down? Or that there were modern USN ships in the harbor being attacked? Or that apparently they blew the SFX budget on making the forward deck of Arizona buckle upward a few feet to simulate that appalling explosion?
No, it makes me feel ill just remembering those scenes. Enough already.
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:49 pm
by rhohltjr
ORIGINAL: John Lansford
You liked that the Oklahoma somehow lifted itself out of the water and rotated until it was upside down? Or that there were modern USN ships in the harbor being attacked? Or that apparently they blew the SFX budget on making the forward deck of Arizona buckle upward a few feet to simulate that appalling explosion?
Uggh

Not those scenes no. Perhaps the 1st person views of the Japanese pilots flying down battleship row
impressed me ...[&:]
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:22 pm
by AcePylut
I think they would have done well to make it two episodes, not one. With one, they barely touched on "everything" but didn't give you an indepth feel of "anything". That's really my biggest complaint.
Something tells me that they are going to waste a lot of series-space to Manila John's "CMOH War Bond Tour". Whoop-dee-doo. Hope not. I'd call that Epic Fail. This series is supposed to be about the Marines in the Pacific, not a Marine on a war-bond tour at home. Spending ANY time on the war-bond tour is a waste of valuable "Pacific" time. Time that could be spent laying a better background for the series.
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:42 pm
by sayaret
Movie was ok ..nothing more. Its like i've seen it all before, same scenes, same moral dilemmas ..same uniforms. Yeah i would love a movie series made by S.Spielberg or C.Eastwood or Hollywood about german soldiers, even SS, that would be something refreshing. Leibstandarte, early years, training, russia, Normandy, Ardennes, Defeat

RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:23 pm
by ChezDaJez
I think they would have done well to make it two episodes, not one. With one, they barely touched on "everything" but didn't give you an indepth feel of "anything". That's really my biggest complaint.
There was no time to get to know the characters. In Band of Brothers, you got to know them as they went through training. In Saving Private Ryan, you got to know them starting with the opening scenes and progressing to the landings. In The Pacific, I really don't have a clue about who they are or what they are about. I have no feeling of affinity for them at all.
There were a few things to nitpick about as there are in any war movie. The attention to detail was evident but one glaring error was the length of their hair. It's the same length when they were civillians as when they are Marines. I'm pretty sure that WWII Marines didn't allow long, curly hair over the ears. I could understand it if they had been in combat for awhile but not when they are first landing.
It also would have been nice if they had put a byline at the bottom to indicate the date of each event. Without it, it left you guessing as to how much time had passed.
Overall, I would give the first episode a C+.
Chez
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:22 pm
by Swayin
I don't know if any of you know who Captain Dale Dye is; a former Marine who has been through combat in Vietnam, wrote a few books and articles, and has hosted a talk radio. He helped out with a lot of accuracies for Band of Brothers and The Pacific.
Dye is great, and has been in a ton of stuff; he was the advisor for "Platoon," and had the cameo as the CO who calls in the birds to "dump your remaining ammunition on my pos, I repeat, on my pos ..."
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:29 pm
by AcePylut
Man, I can't remember seeing a war movie without Dale Dye!
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:30 pm
by AcePylut
He was the Colonel of the 101st in BOB too

Colonel Sink I think.
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:50 pm
by eMonticello
ORIGINAL: AcePylut
Man, I can't remember seeing a war movie without Dale Dye!
His wife served as military advisor for
The Pacific.
http://www.warriorsinc.com/
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:08 am
by jomni
ORIGINAL: AcePylut
He was the Colonel of the 101st in BOB too

Colonel Sink I think.
He's also into video games.
Medal of Honor
Brothers in Arms
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:16 am
by mike scholl 1
ORIGINAL: AcePylut
He was the Colonel of the 101st in BOB too

Colonel Sink I think.
No..., I'm pretty sure "Colonel Sink" was played by Elliot Gould.
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:49 am
by Kull
ORIGINAL: jomni
He's also into video games.
Medal of Honor
Brothers in Arms
And an epic psycho in one of the Texas Chainsaw movies. Horrible, HORRIBLE movie, but Dye was awesome.
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:18 am
by jeffs
One thing that seemed a bit different (I am sure it is realistic) is the marines seem to carry a lot more "stuff" than the paratroopers...
I liked the scene with the marines watching Savo Island and not realizing who was winning. Of course I was wondering which of the CAs it was that blew up so nicely.
It must have been very freaky to see the Japanese ships bringing reinforcements right in your face during daytime.....
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:39 am
by wild_Willie2
The 37mm gun was in the night battle scene..

RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:42 am
by patrickl
ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2
The 37mm gun was in the night battle scene..
Damn real! [X(][X(][X(]No HBO at home so have to wait for the DVD.[:(]
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:40 am
by John Lansford
I thought that scene was of the .30 caliber water cooled MG they were lugging around from one firing position to another.
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:12 am
by jomni
ORIGINAL: Kull
...but Dye was awesome.
Who's better Dye or Ermey?
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:42 am
by AcePylut
ORIGINAL: mike scholl 1
ORIGINAL: AcePylut
He was the Colonel of the 101st in BOB too

Colonel Sink I think.
No..., I'm pretty sure "Colonel Sink" was played by Elliot Gould.
In a Bridge to Far, yeah, I think Gould was Sink. But in BoB, I'm thinking of the scene where Winters relieves Dyke, Sink/Dye was standing right there.
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:02 pm
by mike scholl 1
ORIGINAL: AcePylut
No..., I'm pretty sure "Colonel Sink" was played by Elliot Gould.
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In a Bridge to Far, yeah, I think Gould was Sink. But in BoB, I'm thinking of the scene where Winters relieves Dyke, Sink/Dye was standing right there.
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You could well be right..., I was thinking of Bridge to Far...
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:04 pm
by morganbj
In BOB, Sink be Dye.
In BTF, Sink no Dye, Gould Dye.
In Midway, no Dye, no Gould, no Sink, but many sink.
In Wake Island, no Sink, no Dye, but all die.
Any questions? Have a good night.