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RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:28 am
by Puhis
I have Yamato DVD. It's a good film, not particulary excellent, but good.
All movie is on Youtube with english subtitles. Quality is not wery good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prd4-azzoQg
RE: Flagrant Violation of TOU
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:28 am
by The Gnome
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
"WOOF-WOOF"----"That's my other dog imitation!"
"Where do you expect me to find a hundred men like
that?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pMeb4ZSHh8
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:30 am
by CaptBeefheart
Well, the original had the politically correct internment sideplot, when Japanese descendants in Hawaii in real life were never actually interned in WWII (it was strictly a mainland thing). So, the question becomes how could Hollywood top that? Show Nagumo as being a sensitive, caring calligraphy master with a gaijin mistress back home who is interned as well?
Whatever happens, DO NOT LET MICHAEL BAY NEAR THIS MOVIE. Here's a reminder of the horror (warning: this clip names "The Movie That Shall Not Be Named"):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pM8PrqY5Rg
EDIT: Also, I'll be happy if they don't show the same Hellcat falling into the drink footage everytime a Wildcat or Devastator or Dauntless is shot down.
Cheers,
CC
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:31 am
by The Gnome
I thought this looked really interesting until I read the critical reception section:
Reviewers in the United States have described the film as a combination of Titanic and Pearl Harbor...
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:36 am
by Puhis
Another interesting japanese movie might be "For those we love - Kamikaze tokkotai". I haven't seen that one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKLLRx7xaVI&NR=1
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:39 am
by jomni
I thought this looked really interesting until I read the critical reception section:
Reviewers in the United States have described the film as a combination of Titanic and Pearl Harbor...
Haha. But Westerners have nothing good to compare it with.
I hope that with the CG technology they make the pains to make the ships and planes historical instead of modern-day stand-ins.
RE: Flagrant Violation of TOU
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:58 am
by John 3rd
"Its a Mother beautiful bridge and its GONNA be there!"
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:05 am
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Commander Cody
Well, the original had the politically correct internment sideplot, when Japanese descendants in Hawaii in real life were never actually interned in WWII (it was strictly a mainland thing).
AFAIK, almost - there was some rounding up/internment at first in Hawaii.
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:19 am
by Puhis
ORIGINAL: The Gnome
I thought this looked really interesting until I read the critical reception section:
Reviewers in the United States have described the film as a combination of Titanic and Pearl Harbor...
There's a big ship = Titanic
It's about Pacific War = Pearl Harbor
I think that's about it. Really, it's not
that bad. [:D] Yamato is definitely worth watching.
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:17 am
by CaptBeefheart
ORIGINAL: witpqs
ORIGINAL: Commander Cody
Well, the original had the politically correct internment sideplot, when Japanese descendants in Hawaii in real life were never actually interned in WWII (it was strictly a mainland thing).
AFAIK, almost - there was some rounding up/internment at first in Hawaii.
You're right, according to Wikipedia "...in Hawaii, where more than 150,000 Japanese Americans composed nearly a third of that territory's population, 1,200[3] to 1,800 Japanese Americans were interned.[4]"
So, I guess the scenario in the movie was possible, although only a 1% chance.
Cheers,
CC
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:28 am
by witpqs
Oh I think the movie clearly fictionalized it to represent the larger internments in California. It was funny that they had her being OK in California but interned in Hawaii after traveling home, when IRL the chances were far greater for it to be the other way around! But the movie story had no way for the visitations to take place in California, so they made it Hawaii.
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:06 am
by CaptBeefheart
ORIGINAL: witpqs
Oh I think the movie clearly fictionalized it to represent the larger internments in California. It was funny that they had her being OK in California but interned in Hawaii after traveling home, when IRL the chances were far greater for it to be the other way around! But the movie story had no way for the visitations to take place in California, so they made it Hawaii.
Your memory of that movie is a lot better than mine. Still, it was a great movie to a guy in junior high when it came to the big screen, continuous footage of the same Hellcat cartwheeling in the ocean notwithstanding.
Cheers,
CC
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:10 am
by Panther Bait
How's about this plot line for adding a little ahistorical romance to the story.
Pilot Rafe, an American, leaves his new fiancee, Kate, and enlists in the RN and serves aboard the Ark Royal. Involved in the Bismarck hunt, he drops the torpedo that the Bismarck is avoiding when it hits the fateful rudder-damaging torp. He is on the Ark Royal in November 1941 when she is sunk and feared lost at sea. His fiancee eventually marries another man, a new cadet in the USN, bombadier Squinty.
Pilot Rafe is eventually discovered in Morrocco during the Operation Torch landings having been captured by the French. He eventually makes his way stateside and into the USN. He tries to reconnect with Kate but she explains that she is married now. He never meets her husband.
Fast forward to May 1942. Rafe and Squinty are crewman together on Saratoga. After the Battle of the Coral Sea, they are among the crews transferred to Yorktown. Thinking there is no way that Yorktown can leave for at least a week. Squinty sneaks his wife on board for some conjugal visiting. They are caught sleeping in the parachute room by a horrified Rafe, who maliciously doesn't tell Squinty that the ship is setting sail now. Kate is stuck on board, but Rafe has a change of heart and helps Squinty hide her on board.
The day of the battle approaches and the truth comes out with much fighting between Rafe and Squinty. Kate, concerned that the mission will go badly with them fighting, sneaks on board their TBD only to be found after launch. A fight ensues, but they decide to press on anyways with Kate sitting in the gunner's seat (the real gunner was too sick to fly, but Rafe/Squinty were too patriotic not to fly the mission and rigged up a dummy so they could launch). The fight does cause them to fall out of formation though, but they press on alone.
As they reach the Japanese fleet, they are too late to join the overall torpedo attack (probably a good thing), but their late appearance does draw down the entire 40 Zeroes on CAP (freeing up the dive bombers to attack unmolested naturally). Kate valiantly fends off the Zeros (downing 7), Rafe courageously flies straight in level and low, and Squinty bravely lies in the bombadier position waiting until the last second to launch his torpedo. It hits but it's effects are lost in the general bombing attack and goes unreported.
The TBD is badly damaged, Rafe volunteers to climb to a safe altitude to allow Kate and Squinty to bail out (he gives his parachute to Kate naturally). They bail out, and Rafe manages to steer his badly damaged TBD to a suicide run on the Akagi, which does her in.
Kate and Squinty land among the wreckage of the Japanese fleet, and when it seems safe they inflate their amazingly spacious emergency life raft. As night falls and they fear for the worst, they make love by firelight (i.e. burning bunker oil). In the morning as the raft begins to deflate and the sharks begin circling, all appears lost until a majestic PBY floats down to save the lovers. The PBY crewman's face lights up in pleasant shock as a still naked Kate (covered with a parachute unfortunately) pops up over the side of the raft.
The End.
Mike
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:14 am
by Nemo121
Canoerebel,
Put Kelly's Heroes down, back away carefully and we'll forget this ever happened [:D]
It's a mother beautiful bridge and it is going to be there.
I don't need you, a 60ft bridge I can pick up almost anywhere
[:D] [:D]
We haven't even captured that place yet..... Yeah. so I heard but everyone seems really friendly.
When we fire it.... it makes pretty pictures. Scares the hell out of them. [/b]
Ah they just don't make psychedelic movies like that anymore.
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:21 am
by RUDOLF
ORIGINAL: Panther Bait
My only hope for something decent is that one of the writers for The Pacific is supposedly involved.
Well, the "The Pacific" was biased as hell, why would you want another "Saving Private Ryan, Pacific, Band of Brothers" kind of series?
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:32 am
by Nemo121
You're the communications officer ain't you? You're supposed to be able to communicate.
The general was just on the phone telling me we've broken through along the whole front. Why wasn't I informed?
Its pretty hard to pick them up this early in the morning. Its got something to do with the ionosphere..... Well get the ionosphere the hell off the air and get them on.
and the best one ever.
Have you ever heard enthusiasm like that in all your life? They've even got the damned grave diggers along.
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:39 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Panther Bait
How's about this plot line for adding a little ahistorical romance to the story.
Pilot Rafe, an American, leaves his new fiancee, Kate, and enlists in the RN and serves aboard the Ark Royal. Involved in the Bismarck hunt, he drops the torpedo that the Bismarck is avoiding when it hits the fateful rudder-damaging torp. He is on the Ark Royal in November 1941 when she is sunk and feared lost at sea. His fiancee eventually marries another man, a new cadet in the USN, bombadier Squinty.
Pilot Rafe is eventually discovered in Morrocco during the Operation Torch landings having been captured by the French. He eventually makes his way stateside and into the USN. He tries to reconnect with Kate but she explains that she is married now. He never meets her husband.
Fast forward to May 1942. Rafe and Squinty are crewman together on Saratoga. After the Battle of the Coral Sea, they are among the crews transferred to Yorktown. Thinking there is no way that Yorktown can leave for at least a week. Squinty sneaks his wife on board for some conjugal visiting. They are caught sleeping in the parachute room by a horrified Rafe, who maliciously doesn't tell Squinty that the ship is setting sail now. Kate is stuck on board, but Rafe has a change of heart and helps Squinty hide her on board.
The day of the battle approaches and the truth comes out with much fighting between Rafe and Squinty. Kate, concerned that the mission will go badly with them fighting, sneaks on board their TBD only to be found after launch. A fight ensues, but they decide to press on anyways with Kate sitting in the gunner's seat (the real gunner was too sick to fly, but Rafe/Squinty were too patriotic not to fly the mission and rigged up a dummy so they could launch). The fight does cause them to fall out of formation though, but they press on alone.
As they reach the Japanese fleet, they are too late to join the overall torpedo attack (probably a good thing), but their late appearance does draw down the entire 40 Zeroes on CAP (freeing up the dive bombers to attack unmolested naturally). Kate valiantly fends off the Zeros (downing 7), Rafe courageously flies straight in level and low, and Squinty bravely lies in the bombadier position waiting until the last second to launch his torpedo. It hits but it's effects are lost in the general bombing attack and goes unreported.
The TBD is badly damaged, Rafe volunteers to climb to a safe altitude to allow Kate and Squinty to bail out (he gives his parachute to Kate naturally). They bail out, and Rafe manages to steer his badly damaged TBD to a suicide run on the Akagi, which does her in.
Kate and Squinty land among the wreckage of the Japanese fleet, and when it seems safe they inflate their amazingly spacious emergency life raft. As night falls and they fear for the worst, they make love by firelight (i.e. burning bunker oil). In the morning as the raft begins to deflate and the sharks begin circling, all appears lost until a majestic PBY floats down to save the lovers. The PBY crewman's face lights up in pleasant shock as a still naked Kate (covered with a parachute unfortunately) pops up over the side of the raft.
The End.
Mike
Warspite1
You may have a chronology problem vis a vis Operation Torch (November 1942) coming before Coral Sea (May 1942), Midway (June 1942) etc.....On second thoughts though, given that Hollywood would have the world believe the dross that was U-571 - maybe this is unimportant?
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:03 pm
by Panther Bait
Director: Details, details! Everyone is bugging me with historical details! Make it a daring commando raid on North Africa then. Or maybe he drifted eastwards to Tobruk. Were the Brits fighting there in Nov 1941?
Mike
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:16 pm
by cantona2
ORIGINAL: Puhis
Any rumors about Ben Affleck? He would be perfect Raymond Spruance.
Or maybe someone else, but he must be part of the film!
You'd have to 'get him into a damn plane' very quick in order for him to be able to sink all four Jap carriers on hi ownn
RE: Slightly off topic - New Midway movie
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:17 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Panther Bait
Director: Details, details! Everyone is bugging me with historical details!
Warspite1
[:D]
Re Tobruk - like it!!
We can learn how Pilot Rafe was responsible for the successful defence of Tobruk. I thought it was a hard fought victory by the Aussies, Poles and British, but we can now learn it was one pilot's heroic exploits that really won the day! It HAS to be Ben Affleck [;)]
