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RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 6:00 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: witpqs
Getting married when you need to attend to a new PC - where is your sense of priorities? [;)] [:D]
[:)] Congratulations! [:)]
Thanks. I think.[:)]
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 6:04 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
I'm looking for a clicky key keyboard like IBM used to make back in the olden times. I've been typing on mashed potatoes so long I don't know if I'll survive the happiness factor. Besides gaming I'm thinking of writing another novel, and membrane keyboards won't hack that load.
You want olden times? You need this:
http://www.usbtypewriter.com/
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 1:16 am
by Panjack
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
I'm looking for a clicky key keyboard like IBM used to make back in the olden times. I've been typing on mashed potatoes so long I don't know if I'll survive the happiness factor. Besides gaming I'm thinking of writing another novel, and membrane keyboards won't hack that load.
I still have a couple of IBM model M keyboards from the late 1980s or early 1990s: the greatest computer keyboard ever made. I expect to use them for a long time.
The model M keyboard is also good to have around because if you suddenly find an elephant charging you while you're working on the computer you can just pick up the keyboard and whack the elephant on the head...he will fall down stunned from the blow. (You can then return to typing on the keyboard and use the elephant to help build airfields in India). The model M is a
solid piece of equipment.
Unicomp, I believe, makes (or did make) an updated version of the model M.
Why someone would pay top dollar for, say, a cool looking CPU cooler but then use a $5 keyboard is beyond me.
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:29 am
by ilovestrategy
I bought a $40 Saitek gaming keyboard over three years ago and it's still like new.
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:17 am
by SuluSea
ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy
I bought a Cyberpower gaming PC in October 2007 and it still runs strong. Haven't had a problem with it.
I purchased mine from New Egg after DRM trashed my old PC, in 2007 as well. My next PC will be the same make and would recommend them to anyone as I've had zero problems with it.

RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:25 am
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: witpqs
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
I'm looking for a clicky key keyboard like IBM used to make back in the olden times. I've been typing on mashed potatoes so long I don't know if I'll survive the happiness factor. Besides gaming I'm thinking of writing another novel, and membrane keyboards won't hack that load.
You want olden times? You need this:
http://www.usbtypewriter.com/
Well, clicky to be sure. Some people have WAY too much time.
I did like the kicky, hipster soundtrack!
Thanks.
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:28 am
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: Panjack
I still have a couple of IBM model M keyboards from the late 1980s or early 1990s: the greatest computer keyboard ever made. I expect to use them for a long time.
The model M keyboard is also good to have around because if you suddenly find an elephant charging you while you're working on the computer you can just pick up the keyboard and whack the elephant on the head...he will fall down stunned from the blow. (You can then return to typing on the keyboard and use the elephant to help build airfields in India). The model M is a solid piece of equipment.
Unicomp, I believe, makes (or did make) an updated version of the model M.
Why someone would pay top dollar for, say, a cool looking CPU cooler but then use a $5 keyboard is beyond me.
I certainly agree with your last sentence.
I started out on the original IBM PCs. The M was "normal", but over the decades keyboard deterioration has been so subtle yet relentless that most younger folks have no idea how bad the typical one is now. I read that even a pretty beat up M is going for about $200 on eBay.
I'll look at Unicomp. Thanks.
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:34 am
by Bullwinkle58
I did look at Unicomp. What a time capsule! Definitely on the possible list.
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:40 am
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy
I bought a $40 Saitek gaming keyboard over three years ago and it's still like new.
I looked at the Saitek Eclipse II, and I think it's a membrane/domed rubber design. I've used other Saitek periphs (joysticks, etc.), and they make good stuff, but on the keyboard I want clicky for sure.
There's a lot of on-line debate about what a "gaming" keyboard is. Some maintain you need Cherry MX Black switches that let you "hover" the keystroke in FPS games and do smooth double-taps. Maybe. But this one is going to be for WPing as much as games, and I'm retro on WPing. I want sound and the tactile feedback from the key. Partly due to this lack I simply cannot type on a laptop. I'm chicken hunting right now, and my hands are tired after a paragraph. I'm just old school on keyboards.
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:41 am
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: SuluSea
ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy
I bought a Cyberpower gaming PC in October 2007 and it still runs strong. Haven't had a problem with it.
I purchased mine from New Egg after DRM trashed my old PC, in 2007 as well. My next PC will be the same make and would recommend them to anyone as I've had zero problems with it.
That pic looks like a Klingon battle cruiser. [8D]
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:51 am
by USSAmerica
I was thinking, "some kind of phaser." [:D]
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:55 am
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: USS America
I was thinking, "some kind of phaser." [:D]
Whatever it is, it looks angry.
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:16 am
by sfbaytf
For whatever its worth I bought a liquid cooled computer a while back and I love it. No need to overclock as it was a decent beast. I do love the fact its much quieter than my previous machine. Even with stealth fans my previous computer sounded like a 747 when I fired it up and it was a dual core, not a quad like my liquid cooled one.
I wouldn't go back to just fan cooled systems now. I used to build computers myself. If you have any basic mechanical aptitude you should be able to build your own liquid beast. Heat is the enemy of electronics.
Besides IIRC you served on a sub. Aren't you all trained to be Mr Fix it and hands on ready to do anything with a screwdriver and wrench?
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:40 am
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: sfbaytf
For whatever its worth I bought a liquid cooled computer a while back and I love it. No need to overclock as it was a decent beast. I do love the fact its much quieter than my previous machine. Even with stealth fans my previous computer sounded like a 747 when I fired it up and it was a dual core, not a quad like my liquid cooled one.
I wouldn't go back to just fan cooled systems now. I used to build computers myself. If you have any basic mechanical aptitude you should be able to build your own liquid beast. Heat is the enemy of electronics.
Besides IIRC you served on a sub. Aren't you all trained to be Mr Fix it and hands on ready to do anything with a screwdriver and wrench?
I was a supply officer. I was handy with a pork chop or a DD1348 (6 part).[:)]
I've been away from AE for a week researching every piece of gear I'm about to buy, now that Bessie is dead. Delving into Sandy Bridge Turbo Boost multiplier effects versus standard overclocking, SLI power and heat versus one big GPU, how a 1000W power supply will affect the older house wiring we have and whether I'll need an electrician to reroute some circuits in the walls, TN versus IPS monitors, and power gaming mice, to name a few. Going to order Friday.
Going Turbo only; no overclock. Going to get SLI-ready on PSU and mobo, but wait to see how power consumption and GPU card prices behave in the next year. (GeForce x570 as GPU.) I can SLI on my own if needed/wanted. SB i7 2600k CPU. 8 GB RAM, WD 1 TB HD (I have three legacy HDs I'll reuse in some combo. Didn't go SSD this round.) Massive amounts of CPU air cooling; the heatsinks alone are five inches long, plus four 200mm case fans. HAF case. 1000W Corsair PSU. Razer Blackwidow Ultimate illuminated clicky keyboard. Logitech MX518 mouse. HP ZR24w 24 in IPS monitor.
Going to be a Ferrari next to Bessie's Studebaker. Can't wait. But I must.[:)]
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:15 pm
by ilovestrategy
Reminds me of playing Lord of the Rings Online on an ancient machine. There was no grass and the water on the lakes and streams was just a white sheet. When my gaming machine arrived I installed LOTRO and oh my god, it was like playing a new game with the grass flowing in the wind and seeing the ripples in the water.
I'm such a nerd. [:D]
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:31 pm
by sfbaytf
Sounds like a good beast of burden. I used Nvidia and ATI in the past. I now have an ATI in my machine. I've heard of driver issues with NVidia cards fairly recently with certain games. Don't know if that's been sorted out.
With multi core CPUs and GPU superprocessing becoming the norm it won't be long before we have the capabiliy to have human like AI and photorealistic WitP!
I've been away for an extended period. After a year plus cranking out 3-5 turns a day I took a break and got into guns and tactical shooting. Talk about fun!
I bought War in the East when it came out and played a little then left it alone. I'm now considering a game, but the East Front is a completely different beast. Looks like one big sausage factory.
I do see the latest WitP updates adds some new scenarios.
Argh too many games and guns and not enough time.
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: sfbaytf
For whatever its worth I bought a liquid cooled computer a while back and I love it. No need to overclock as it was a decent beast. I do love the fact its much quieter than my previous machine. Even with stealth fans my previous computer sounded like a 747 when I fired it up and it was a dual core, not a quad like my liquid cooled one.
I wouldn't go back to just fan cooled systems now. I used to build computers myself. If you have any basic mechanical aptitude you should be able to build your own liquid beast. Heat is the enemy of electronics.
Besides IIRC you served on a sub. Aren't you all trained to be Mr Fix it and hands on ready to do anything with a screwdriver and wrench?
I was a supply officer. I was handy with a pork chop or a DD1348 (6 part).[:)]
I've been away from AE for a week researching every piece of gear I'm about to buy, now that Bessie is dead. Delving into Sandy Bridge Turbo Boost multiplier effects versus standard overclocking, SLI power and heat versus one big GPU, how a 1000W power supply will affect the older house wiring we have and whether I'll need an electrician to reroute some circuits in the walls, TN versus IPS monitors, and power gaming mice, to name a few. Going to order Friday.
Going Turbo only; no overclock. Going to get SLI-ready on PSU and mobo, but wait to see how power consumption and GPU card prices behave in the next year. (GeForce x570 as GPU.) I can SLI on my own if needed/wanted. SB i7 2600k CPU. 8 GB RAM, WD 1 TB HD (I have three legacy HDs I'll reuse in some combo. Didn't go SSD this round.) Massive amounts of CPU air cooling; the heatsinks alone are five inches long, plus four 200mm case fans. HAF case. 1000W Corsair PSU. Razer Blackwidow Ultimate illuminated clicky keyboard. Logitech MX518 mouse. HP ZR24w 24 in IPS monitor.
Going to be a Ferrari next to Bessie's Studebaker. Can't wait. But I must.[:)]
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:55 pm
by ilovestrategy
I've used both Nvidea and ATI. I never really saw one being better than the other.
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:36 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy
Reminds me of playing Lord of the Rings Online on an ancient machine. There was no grass and the water on the lakes and streams was just a white sheet. When my gaming machine arrived I installed LOTRO and oh my god, it was like playing a new game with the grass flowing in the wind and seeing the ripples in the water.
I'm such a nerd. [:D]
Bessie was like that with "Fallout: New Vegas." I managed 1.5 run throughs, but the graphics were dialed down so low that bad guys magically appeared six feet in front of me already firing.
I have a list of shooters I could never touch, starting with COD3 and later. Going to be a loud summer in Frostbite Falls. [8D]
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:42 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: sfbaytf
Sounds like a good beast of burden. I used Nvidia and ATI in the past. I now have an ATI in my machine. I've heard of driver issues with NVidia cards fairly recently with certain games. Don't know if that's been sorted out.
With multi core CPUs and GPU superprocessing becoming the norm it won't be long before we have the capabiliy to have human like AI and photorealistic WitP!
I've been away for an extended period. After a year plus cranking out 3-5 turns a day I took a break and got into guns and tactical shooting. Talk about fun!
I bought War in the East when it came out and played a little then left it alone. I'm now considering a game, but the East Front is a completely different beast. Looks like one big sausage factory.
I do see the latest WitP updates adds some new scenarios.
Argh too many games and guns and not enough time.
Welcome bqck!
I've always had ATI cards, but they've been bought and I neve rlike to buy any product in the m idst of a merger/buy-out. Also, I've had issues with Crystal drivers not keeping up in the past. Nvidia is sort of the stqandard gaming card line now, at least for action, and they've put physics processors on the card which I don't understand , but sound cool. [:)]
I've been lurking in the WitE forums some, and it seems like the game was shipped undone, or at least undertested in 1943- onward. GG again facing the design challenge of what to hard code for the historical path bunch, and what to leav eopen for the4 what-if crowd. The blizzard turns sounds like it was a mess, b ut I understand that's sorta fixed. Now the German retreat era is causing problems. I may play WitE someday, but not until it's stable.
The latest AE betas add a huge amount to the game, especially in the logistics side. Worth taking a look.
RE: OT-CyberPower gaming PCs
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:21 am
by sfbaytf
I'll take a look. Don't know if I want to dive back in for a full blown campaign. I'm going to be relocating for work in a few months and things may get hectic for a while. A smaller scenario may be ok. I do miss the 42 and 43 Campaigns from the original WitP.
Been looking in the WitE forums too and looks like some more work needs to get done. I'm not surprised it was a massive undertaking to begin with. Sounds like they do want to eventually create a Western Front and North Africa game so they do have incentive to get things right eventually. Personally I think they should have began with the Western Front before taking on the East Front, but that's just my bias. I do wonder how "fun" it will be playing 42-43 on the Eastern Front. One thing WitP AE has going for it is its still fun and challenging for both side in 43-44. Sounds like on the Eastern Front its just a big attrition grind.