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BBfanboy wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 3:10 pm FG, did you leave the ship docked for more than one turn? It can take up to 3 days to unload a large device. I experienced this unloading 6" coastal guns at a small port.

BBfanboy wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 3:10 pm Since when is their industry at Peleliu needing resources? Are you referring to supply to build forts/port/airfield? That can be unloaded from an amphibiously loaded vessel - i.e. start an amphibious TF, assign xAK or AK type vessels, dock and load supply (they will load 80% of ship capacity) and send them to the island.

Yaab wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 3:30 pm FraunGausch, unload your resources in Babeldaob. If the code can push surplus resources to the adjacent port level 0 in Peleliu, it will do so (thousgh 500 x 0 should be 0). If not, expand the port in Peleliu to level 1, and afterwards always drop resources in Babeldaob (see manual section 9.3.3.3)

RangerJoe wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 5:15 pm No port? Use the amphibious mode or fast transport task forces if possible. Also use these task forces for very small ports since the unloading may actually be faster than for docked task forces.

Unable to load/unload devices? Check the port size to determine the maximum load/unload size possible. Naval support squads will affect this positively at ports size 1(1) or larger.

BBfanboy wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:32 am

RangerJoe wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 5:15 pm No port? Use the amphibious mode or fast transport task forces if possible. Also use these task forces for very small ports since the unloading may actually be faster than for docked task forces.

Unable to load/unload devices? Check the port size to determine the maximum load/unload size possible. Naval support squads will affect this positively at ports size 1(1) or larger.

IIRC, you cannot load resources amphibiously. I don't know what mod or version he is playing that puts industry on Peleliu so I am surprised about the resource requirement.
The manual has info about port unload capacity both per 12 hour phase and per item.

Chris21wen wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:58 am Two separate problems here. This is under 28b. There seems to be conflicting info in the manual?

In the first a cargo ship cannot unload resources at a size 0 port. Size 0 ports have no unloading/loading capability. E.g. It cannot dock and they are no lighters etc. Naval support won't help.
You can load cargo ships in amphibious mode and they will unload in amphibious mode but very, very slowly, 20 a day per ship. Amphibous TF that can dock at a friendly port have a reduce docked unload capacity. Manual says 125 per ship per turn. Page 142 section 6.3.3.3.2.2 new manual.

The second problem is much simpler, it's to do with device load costs. Basicaly no device can be unloaded if it's load cost exceeds the ports daily handling capacity. From above the load cost 198, 139 etc is > 125, the amphibious docked unload rate.

FranGuasch wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:48 am Perhaps a bit OFF Topic, but can not find a better place to ask for this


I am having problems loading/ unloading heavy artillery

I have no idea where to find the port size / naval requirements, whatever to unload my 30 cm, 24cm and so on

I decide to buy several kwantung heavy arty to bombard Corregidor, then had problems loading these in Fusan.

So.. I sent these to Port Arthur, and finally got them loaded

So i sent them towards Manila, tried landing in a couple areas (unsure exact ones, believe port 1) but then i could land these in a port size 2, perhaps had to dock them.

So, after capturing the base, sent these towards bangkok.. a size 4 port... but uncapable

Guess problem is similar to reload naval heavy weapons, I need some Naval support or whatever, but can not find exact values

Device Load cost for these mortars is 198,139, 58

Another topic, port 0 unload resources (supply?)
Peleliu has no port (0), I wanted to unload a few resources onto it to get the industry going. Found no way to do it. No unload available at port 0. Can i do something about it? A specific ship class? AK? Some naval support on it?

Chris21wen wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:11 am I repeat what I said ealier the load cost of the Hvy art is greater (193 or 139) than the unload ability of an amphibious TF (125) in port. It will never unload on it own while in an amphiboius TF, it matters not what size the TF is. Naval support, like it does for all unloading increased a ports unloading capacity, 125 in this case. If as you said you sent 116 nav sup the amount that can now be unlaoded daily is 125+116 =241. This is now greater than the load cost of the Hvy art so it unloads.

Not sure how long your TF sat in Bangkok but you could sent it back Saigon or anywhere else where it can unload, then reforming a cargo/transport TF, before going back.

The clues in the name 'Over the beach' Used for assualting bases. Also applies to any TF where ship size will prevent it docking and hence either preventing or drastically slowing down loading or unloading. Primarily at ports sized 0-3.

Can I ask why you have attached an image of the preferences screen?

FranGuasch wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 7:05 am

Chris21wen wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:11 am I repeat what I said ealier the load cost of the Hvy art is greater (193 or 139) than the unload ability of an amphibious TF (125) in port. It will never unload on it own while in an amphiboius TF, it matters not what size the TF is. Naval support, like it does for all unloading increased a ports unloading capacity, 125 in this case. If as you said you sent 116 nav sup the amount that can now be unlaoded daily is 125+116 =241. This is now greater than the load cost of the Hvy art so it unloads.

Not sure how long your TF sat in Bangkok but you could sent it back Saigon or anywhere else where it can unload, then reforming a cargo/transport TF, before going back.

The clues in the name 'Over the beach' Used for assualting bases. Also applies to any TF where ship size will prevent it docking and hence either preventing or drastically slowing down loading or unloading. Primarily at ports sized 0-3.

Can I ask why you have attached an image of the preferences screen?

Ye, thanks everybody problem is solved.

Screen is here because of the "weird" peleliu production asked. Hope there is info about the exact scenario played

I play just basic scenario 1, but seems this is an updated version, as seems scattered LI around is not in previous versions

Moltrey wrote: Mon Jun 02, 2025 8:36 pm For the benefit of those who would rather have Alfred's Logistics 101 on a pdf to peruse, here you go.
Enjoy!

Alfred's Guide to WITPAE Supply.pdf

homer82 wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 4:51 am Nice, thanks!

FranGuasch wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:48 am Perhaps a bit OFF Topic, but can not find a better place to ask for this


I am having problems loading/ unloading heavy artillery

I have no idea where to find the port size / naval requirements, whatever to unload my 30 cm, 24cm and so on

I decide to buy several kwantung heavy arty to bombard Corregidor, then had problems loading these in Fusan.

So.. I sent these to Port Arthur, and finally got them loaded

So i sent them towards Manila, tried landing in a couple areas (unsure exact ones, believe port 1) but then i could land these in a port size 2, perhaps had to dock them.

So, after capturing the base, sent these towards bangkok.. a size 4 port... but uncapable

Guess problem is similar to reload naval heavy weapons, I need some Naval support or whatever, but can not find exact values

Device Load cost for these mortars is 198,139, 58

Another topic, port 0 unload resources (supply?)
Peleliu has no port (0), I wanted to unload a few resources onto it to get the industry going. Found no way to do it. No unload available at port 0. Can i do something about it? A specific ship class? AK? Some naval support on it?

Moltrey wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 4:17 pm

homer82 wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 4:51 am Nice, thanks!

You bet Senior Chief!
Us old sea dogs have to stick together (woof!)