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RE: three blind mice

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:13 pm
by bigred
Another day of hell:
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Morning Air attack on IA 22nd Brigade, at 51,79 (Kuantan [Malaya])

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2m21 Zero x 7
Ki-21-IIa Sally GP x 95
Ki-48-Ib Lily GP x 51



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
110 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally GP bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 50 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally GP bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 50 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally GP bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 50 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-48-Ib Lily GP bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 8 x 50 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-48-Ib Lily GP bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 8 x 50 kg GP Bomb
29 x Ki-21-IIa Sally GP bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 50 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking CW 1st ISF Base Force ...
Also attacking IA 22nd Brigade ...



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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4)

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:16 pm
by bigred
ORIGINAL: el cid again

ORIGINAL: bigred

ORIGINAL: Historiker


[:D]
Oh, ich sehe wir haben Interesse von einem echten Deutschen bereit, AE Geschichte zu machen. Kommen Sie jetzt Historiker wissen wir, Sie wollen uns helfen.

ausgezeichnet!

Sie verstehen Deutsch!
Auch wirklich, aber nix sagen

RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4)

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:27 pm
by bigred
Bad news

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4)

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:49 pm
by bigred
Only in this game, the slaughter seems to be going both ways! It is more like how I play than
most Allied players do. I believe in the offensive defensive rather than the run, bastion up and
wait to come back with overwhelming forces.

Bluntly, an allied player has to become aware of the abilities and weakness of the allies and Japs to play forward. To do so and not understand the IJ strong points of the game will greatly increase allied casualties. Roughly I have been playing AE about two years and I give credit to FatR (my other game in nov43) for being a good mentor.

RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4)

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:07 pm
by bigred
Talk about hanging around

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4)

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:47 pm
by bigred
Not much of a surprise.

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RE: three blind mice

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:35 am
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: bigred

3 blind mice:

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Balabac I [W Is] at 70,82, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Zyuyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Hidaka Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Raizan Maru, Shell hits 46, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD RN Scout
DD RN Thanet
DD RN Thracian

Japanese ground losses:
3046 casualties reported
Squads: 89 destroyed, 67 disabled
Non Combat: 71 destroyed, 101 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 35 (7 destroyed, 28 disabled)
I have always wondered how, when all the ships in a convoy are sunk, some of the guns and vehicles are merely "disabled". Perhaps they had balloon tires that let them float upside down until IJN barges with cranes could recover them??

Unrelated question from a realitive newbie: What does the "RHS" in the title stand for?

RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4)

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:32 am
by Historiker
ORIGINAL: bigred

ORIGINAL: el cid again

ORIGINAL: bigred



Oh, ich sehe wir haben Interesse von einem echten Deutschen bereit, AE Geschichte zu machen. Kommen Sie jetzt Historiker wissen wir, Sie wollen uns helfen.

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Sie verstehen Deutsch!
Auch wirklich, aber nix sagen
google translator ftw? [;)]

RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4)

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:07 pm
by el cid again
ORIGINAL: bigred

ORIGINAL: Historiker
Achtung Leser. ElCid wird für eine qualifizierte Nippon Kommandant für seine anderen Test-Spiel suchen. Dont be shy und Zeitbedarf ist etwa 2/3 Umdrehungen pro Woche.
[:D]
Oh, ich sehe wir haben Interesse von einem echten Deutschen bereit, AE Geschichte zu machen. Kommen Sie jetzt Historiker wissen wir, Sie wollen uns helfen.


FYI in RHS we have a number of German units - many from an unpublished mod by Mifune - otherwise imported from WITP RHS. These include die Erste Monsons submarines, raiders, tenders (one of which was sunk in this game already by a US submarine), and rather efficient transports (useful for moving "ores" - resources - from the mainland to Japan. A few units start on the map in Japan and Manchukuo. The rest appear in the SW map corner at a tiny island which is not developable - and should not be developed by either side nor captured by the Allies. This island - a dot location without art - is almost invisible and NOT a supply source nor a developed base in any sense. It is a point for Axis units to appear - period. But it is real! It is Amsterdam Island, a volano with no suitable place for a port or airfield - and the only attempt to do something there economically (raise cattle) failed.

RE: three blind mice

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:17 pm
by el cid again
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: bigred

3 blind mice:

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Balabac I [W Is] at 70,82, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Zyuyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Hidaka Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Raizan Maru, Shell hits 46, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD RN Scout
DD RN Thanet
DD RN Thracian

Japanese ground losses:
3046 casualties reported
Squads: 89 destroyed, 67 disabled
Non Combat: 71 destroyed, 101 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 35 (7 destroyed, 28 disabled)
I have always wondered how, when all the ships in a convoy are sunk, some of the guns and vehicles are merely "disabled". Perhaps they had balloon tires that let them float upside down until IJN barges with cranes could recover them??

Unrelated question from a realitive newbie: What does the "RHS" in the title stand for?


RHS stands for Real Historical Scenario.

It was inspired by RSH (Real Sub Hunter) and suggested by Joe Wilkerson - long ago - in WITP days. At that time we were working on CHS - on plane data - and when it was not ultimately included - the CHS coordinator suggested a separate mod. Joe came up with the name. It is not intended to imply other mods are not historical - is is just a name - which seemed more appropriate then as we were working on a similarly named mod.

RHS has no "author" in its credits - just "the RHS Team" - because it was the product of several people and many suggestions from the forums. For about three years lots of art was done by Cobra. For more years lots of data work was done by Mifune. I did a great deal of work on files you can not see - called pwhexe - which are the map from the point of view of the computer. Today in RHS we have seasonal pwhexe files - so there is more ice in winter - less in "monsoon" (= summer) - and this really matters in the North - while non paved (i.e. secondary roads) turn to mud in the monsoon in places like Burma. It is pwhexe that permits rivers to become navigable in RHS - and sometimes that is a seasonal thing. In upper Burma the Irrawaddy becomes useless - a counterintuitive thing - in the "wet" monsoon - too much flow down narrow gorges. In the North, rivers freeze over - and ships cannot sail - but some places get ice trails - or even ice roads. In Spring, "break up" of the ice prevents both sailing and ice roads from existing - while in Fall - only two months long - you get the best navigation - three rivers in Siberia and three in Canada open to the usable Arctic Ocean.

RHS for AE is in beta - not released - and among other things - needs a bit more art work. We are testing to find data problems - to be sure our technical changes actually work as intended. A newly written installer is in test.

RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4)

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:27 pm
by Historiker
ORIGINAL: el cid again
ORIGINAL: bigred

ORIGINAL: Historiker


[:D]
Oh, ich sehe wir haben Interesse von einem echten Deutschen bereit, AE Geschichte zu machen. Kommen Sie jetzt Historiker wissen wir, Sie wollen uns helfen.


FYI in RHS we have a number of German units - many from an unpublished mod by Mifune - otherwise imported from WITP RHS. These include die Erste Monsons submarines, raiders, tenders (one of which was sunk in this game already by a US submarine), and rather efficient transports (useful for moving "ores" - resources - from the mainland to Japan. A few units start on the map in Japan and Manchukuo. The rest appear in the SW map corner at a tiny island which is not developable - and should not be developed by either side nor captured by the Allies. This island - a dot location without art - is almost invisible and NOT a supply source nor a developed base in any sense. It is a point for Axis units to appear - period. But it is real! It is Amsterdam Island, a volano with no suitable place for a port or airfield - and the only attempt to do something there economically (raise cattle) failed.
How is the lack of building costs for german units reflected? Did you use my duration-method?

RE: three blind mice

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:35 pm
by BBfanboy
Thanks for the detailed description of your team mod El Cid. I like the idea of having riverine forces and more seasonal effects. Will check in every now and then to see the great artwork and read up on the effects of your mods.

RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: Turn 7 Begins - lots of action

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:27 pm
by el cid again
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 12, 41
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Sub attack near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 186,96

Japanese Ships
SS I-23

Allied Ships
AM Grebe



Captain of SS I-23 elects not to launch torpedoes at this target
I-23 diving deep ....
AM Grebe fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Grebe fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Grebe fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Grebe fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Grebe fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Submarine attack near Batavia [Java] at 49,97

Japanese Ships
SS I-66 [Later I-166]

Allied Ships
xAK UK Taiyuan



xAK UK Taiyuan is sighted by SS I-66 [Later I-166]
SS I-66 [Later I-166] launches 3 torpedoes at xAK UK Taiyuan


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Sub attack near Emirau I [Bismarks] at 106,120

Japanese Ships
xAKL Kanaiyama Maru, Torpedo hits 4
CS Kamoi
PB Tama Maru #8

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 5



SS Ghost Submarine 5 launches 6 torpedoes at xAKL Kanaiyama Maru
Ghost Submarine 5 diving deep ....
PB Tama Maru #8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tama Maru #8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tama Maru #8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tama Maru #8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tama Maru #8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 190,88

Japanese Ships
SS I-25

Allied Ships
DM Breese



SS I-25 is sighted by escort
DM Breese fails to find sub, continues to search...
DM Breese fails to find sub, continues to search...
DM Breese fails to find sub, continues to search...
DM Breese fails to find sub, continues to search...
DM Breese fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Submarine attack near Saipan [Marianas] at 107,91

Japanese Ships
xAK Hirota Maru, Torpedo hits 3

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 4



xAK Hirota Maru is sighted by SS Ghost Submarine 4
SS Ghost Submarine 4 launches 6 torpedoes


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Submarine attack near Kota Bharu [Malaya] at 53,75

Japanese Ships
xAKL Hachirogata Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS RNN KXII



xAKL Hachirogata Maru is sighted by SS RNN KXII
SS RNN KXII launches 4 torpedoes at xAKL Hachirogata Maru


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Sub attack near Lahaina [Maui] at 191,89

Japanese Ships
SS I-17

Allied Ships
DMS Trevor



SS I-17 launches 5 torpedoes
I-17 diving deep ....
DMS Trevor fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Trevor fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Trevor fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Trevor fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Trevor fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Sandakan [BNoBNEO] at 70,88, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 1
CL Kuma
DD Asakaze
DD Matsukaze

Allied Ships
PG Asheville, Shell hits 1



Reduced visibility due to Rain with 35% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Rain and 35% moonlight: 1,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
Range closes to 1,000 yards...
Range increases to 3,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages PG Asheville at 3,000 yards
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...


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ASW attack near Kota Bharu [Malaya] at 53,75

Japanese Ships
DD Shikinami
CA Mogami
DD Nowaki
DD Ayanami
DD Hagikaze

Allied Ships
SS RNN KXII



SS RNN KXII launches 4 torpedoes at DD Shikinami
RNN KXII bottoming out ....
DD Ayanami fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Shikinami fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hagikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hagikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hagikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hagikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hagikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Emirau I [Bismarks] at 106,120

Japanese Ships
CS Kamoi
PB Tama Maru #8

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 5



SS Ghost Submarine 5 is sighted by escort
Ghost Submarine 5 diving deep ....
PB Tama Maru #8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tama Maru #8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tama Maru #8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tama Maru #8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tama Maru #8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Night Air attack on Kuantan [Malaya] , at 51,79

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes


Allied aircraft
KNIL 139WH-3 x 3


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x KNIL 139WH-3 bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Submarine attack near Shanghai [E Sea] at 92,55

Japanese Ships
ARD Repairs Section 102, Torpedo hits 4

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 6



ARD Repairs Section 102 is sighted by SS Ghost Submarine 6
SS Ghost Submarine 6 launches 6 torpedoes


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Submarine attack near Shanghai [E Sea] at 92,55

Japanese Ships
ARD Repairs Section 102, Torpedo hits 3

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 6



ARD Repairs Section 102 is sighted by SS Ghost Submarine 6
SS Ghost Submarine 6 launches 6 torpedoes


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Sub attack near Emirau I [Bismarks] at 106,120

Japanese Ships
CS Kamoi, Torpedo hits 3
PB Tama Maru #8

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 5



SS Ghost Submarine 5 launches 6 torpedoes at CS Kamoi
Ghost Submarine 5 diving deep ....
PB Tama Maru #8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tama Maru #8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tama Maru #8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tama Maru #8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tama Maru #8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Marcus I [S of Jpn] at 123,84

Japanese Ships
xAKL Kayo Maru, Torpedo hits 2

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 1



SS Ghost Submarine 1 launches 6 torpedoes at xAKL Kayo Maru


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Submarine attack near Saipan [Marianas] at 107,91

Japanese Ships
xAK Daibu Maru, Torpedo hits 2

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 4



xAK Daibu Maru is sighted by SS Ghost Submarine 4
SS Ghost Submarine 4 launches 6 torpedoes


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Sub attack near Truk [Car Is] at 112,108

Japanese Ships
TK Kaizyo Maru, Torpedo hits 2

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 9



TK Kaizyo Maru is sighted by SS Ghost Submarine 9
SS Ghost Submarine 9 launches 6 torpedoes


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Sub attack near Shanghai [E Sea] at 92,55

Japanese Ships
ARD Repairs Section 102, Torpedo hits 2

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 6



SS Ghost Submarine 6 launches 6 torpedoes


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Sub attack near Saipan [Marianas] at 107,91

Japanese Ships
xAK Madras Maru, Torpedo hits 3

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 4



xAK Madras Maru is sighted by SS Ghost Submarine 4
SS Ghost Submarine 4 launches 6 torpedoes


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Morning Air attack on Viet Tri [Tonkin] , at 68,55

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27a/b Nate x 9



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-27a/b Nate sweeping at 20000 feet



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ternate at 78,102

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty TB x 13



Allied aircraft
KNIL B-339D Buffalo x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty TB: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CA Houston
DD Stewart
CL Boise



Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G4M1 Betty TB bombing from 4000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
KNIL Ambon Ptl with KNIL B-339D Buffalo (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on USN Guam Base Force, at 106,95 (Guam [Marianas])

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete FDB x 8



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x F1M2 Pete FDB releasing from 1000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on USN Guam Base Force, at 106,95 (Guam [Marianas])

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete FDB x 8



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x F1M2 Pete FDB bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on USN Guam Base Force, at 106,95 (Guam [Marianas])

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake FR x 4



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x E13A1 Jake FR bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 2xJAAF Tp 1 Air DC, 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Red 4th New Fld Amy Corps, at 92,38 (Yangku [NE China])

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally GP x 19



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
485 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-21-Ic Sally GP bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 15 x 50 kg GP Bomb
9 x Ki-21-Ic Sally GP bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 15 x 50 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Red 4th New Fld Amy Corps, at 92,38 (Yangku [NE China])

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally GP x 15



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
115 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-21-Ic Sally GP bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 15 x 50 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on PA 3rd/12th Inf Battalion, at 81,75 , near Tuguegarao [Lzon]

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally GP x 18
Ki-27a/b Nate x 8



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
232 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 26 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21-IIa Sally GP bombing from 4000 feet *
Ground Attack: 15 x 50 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 76,61

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27a/b Nate x 6
Ki-36 Ida COOP x 6
Ki-48-Ib Lily GP x 3
Ki-51b Sonia GPDB x 2



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL ROC Barge Group 3
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 17
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 19
xAKL ROC Ning Hai
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 14
xAPc ROC Ferry 28, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 20



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-27a/b Nate bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-36 Ida COOP bombing from 4000 feet
Naval Attack: 8 x 30 kg GP Bomb
2 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb
3 x Ki-48-Ib Lily GP bombing from 4000 feet
Naval Attack: 8 x 50 kg GP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAPc ROC Ferry 28


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Morning Air attack on ROC 48th Corps, at 87,49 , near Shou Hsien [E Chi]

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27a/b Nate x 15
Ki-30 Ann GP x 9



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
260 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-30 Ann GP bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 50 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 76,61

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-36 Ida COOP x 14
Ki-48-Ib Lily GP x 4
Ki-51b Sonia GPDB x 10



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 14
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 17, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL ROC Ning Hai, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 20
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 16
xAKL ROC Barge Group 3, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 18
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 19, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk



Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-36 Ida COOP bombing from 4000 feet
Naval Attack: 8 x 30 kg GP Bomb
4 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb
4 x Ki-48-Ib Lily GP bombing from 4000 feet
Naval Attack: 8 x 50 kg GP Bomb
2 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb
4 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL ROC Ning Hai
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL ROC Barge Group 3


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Morning Air attack on PA 3rd/12th Inf Battalion, at 81,75 , near Tuguegarao [Lzon]

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27a/b Nate x 14
Ki-51b Sonia GPDB x 17



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 3000'
Ground Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb
2 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 1000'
Ground Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb
4 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 2000'
Ground Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on ROC 48th Corps, at 87,49 , near Shou Hsien [E Chi]

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27a/b Nate x 15
Ki-51b Sonia GPDB x 20



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
430 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 2000'
Ground Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb
8 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 2000'
Ground Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb
4 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 1000'
Ground Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb
4 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 3000'
Ground Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Red 4th New Fld Amy Corps, at 92,38 (Yangku [NE China])

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-32 Mary GP x 12



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-32 Mary GP bombing from 20000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 50 kg GP Bomb, 2 x 15 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Sandakan [BNoBNEO] at 70,88

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 7



Allied aircraft
KNIL 139WH-3 x 6


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
KNIL 139WH-3: 2 destroyed



CAP engaged:
Ryujo-1 Daitai with A5M4 Claude (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on Kavieng [N Ireland] , at 106,122

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes


Allied aircraft
RAAF Hudson I x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x RAAF Hudson I bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Batao [Tawi Tawi] at 70,93

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val DB x 6



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Peary, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk



Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D3A1 Val DB releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val DB releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Jolo [S Is] at 73,88

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 10
B4Y1 Jean x 6



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK UK Fatshan, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B4Y1 Jean launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm T91 Mod 1 Torp



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Isabela [Basilan] at 75,90

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B4Y1 Jean x 4



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAPc PC Zamboanga Ferry, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAPc PC Jolo Ferry



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B4Y1 Jean bombing from 5000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Batao [Tawi Tawi] at 70,93

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate TB x 9



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B5N2 Kate TB launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 45cm T91 Mod 2 Torp



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Morning Air attack on Georgetown [Penang] , at 49,74

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27a/b Nate x 30



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
30 x Ki-27a/b Nate sweeping at 11000 feet



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 50,84

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty TB x 25



Allied aircraft
RAF Buffalo I x 21


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty TB: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
TK UK Pleiodon, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
xAPc Irwdy FltCo Sabana, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
PG Dragonfly RGB
xAPc Bengkalis Ferry 2
xAPc IrwdyFC Pu Lo Chung
AM RAN Ballarat



Aircraft Attacking:
24 x G4M1 Betty TB launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm T91 Mod 2 Torp

CAP engaged:
No.21 Sqn RAAF with RAF Buffalo I (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
No.453 Sqn RAF with RAF Buffalo I (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
No.488 Sqn RAF with RAF Buffalo I (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ternate at 78,102

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty TB x 5



Allied aircraft
KNIL B-339D Buffalo x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty TB: 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty TB: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CL Boise
CA Houston



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x G4M1 Betty TB bombing from 4000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
KNIL Ambon Ptl with KNIL B-339D Buffalo (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hwaiyin [Yellow R] at 93,50

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5M1 Mabel TB x 5



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAPc ROC Dong Hai 6, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAPc ROC Dong Hai 1, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B5M1 Mabel TB bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

ROC Dong Hai 6 dead in the water ...
ROC Dong Hai 1 dead in the water ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAPc ROC Dong Hai 1


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kiungshan [Hainan] at 71,61

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick FB x 10



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 7
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 4
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 9



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick FB bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 76,61

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 4 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27a/b Nate x 5



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 15
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 20



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-27a/b Nate bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Red 4th New Fld Amy Corps, at 92,38 (Yangku [NE China])

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51b Sonia GPDB x 10



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB bombing from 20000 feet
Ground Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sandakan [BNoBNEO] at 70,88

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 1



Allied aircraft
KNIL 139WH-3 x 3


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



CAP engaged:
Ryujo-1 Daitai with A5M4 Claude (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Raid is overhead



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cebu [Cebu] at 80,86

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty TB x 9



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAPc Turquoise USAT
xAPc PC Tacloban Ferry 2



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G4M1 Betty TB bombing from 4000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Submarine attack near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 183,102

Japanese Ships
SS I-8

Allied Ships
xAKL CW Hirondelle, Shell hits 32, heavy fires, heavy damage



xAKL CW Hirondelle is sighted by SS I-8
SS I-8 attacking on the surface
Ohara R. decides to submerge SS I-8 due to damage


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Pre-Invasion action off Kota Bharu [Malaya] (51,75)

40 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAK Okuni Maru
xAK Azuchisan Maru
xAK Amakusa Maru

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


xAK Okuni Maru firing at CW FMSV Brigade
xAK Okuni Maru fired at enemy troops
xAK Azuchisan Maru fired at enemy troops
xAK Amakusa Maru fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Kota Bharu [Malaya] (51,75)

TF 279 troops unloading over beach at Kota Bharu [Malaya], 51,75





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Ground combat at Lingayen [Luzon] (79,75)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5575 troops, 102 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 181

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 84

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 84 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Lingayen [Luzon] !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: fatigue(-)



Assaulting units:
1st Formosa Inf Regiment
48th Div Recon Regiment
48th Division Pack Field Artillery Regiment


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Ground combat at Lucena [Luzon] (79,79)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8166 troops, 122 guns, 35 vehicles, Assault Value = 371

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 232

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 232 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Lucena [Luzon] !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:



Assaulting units:
20th Pack B Inf Regimental Combat Team
16th Recon Regiment
9th Pack B Inf Regimental Combat Team
2nd Tank "Rgt" Battalion


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Ground combat at Guam [Marianas] (106,95)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11314 troops, 86 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 177

Defending force 825 troops, 0 guns, 38 vehicles, Assault Value = 18

Japanese adjusted assault: 80

Allied adjusted defense: 9

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Guam [Marianas] !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Allied ground losses:
426 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 91 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 12 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 45 (45 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Assaulting units:
144th Draft B Inf Regimental Combat Team
IJN 15th Base Force /2

Defending units:
USN Guam Base Force


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Ground combat at Sandakan [BNoBNEO] (70,88)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1493 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 45

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 35

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 35 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Sandakan [BNoBNEO] !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:



Assaulting units:
JNAF 6th Co
JNAF 8th Co /1
16th Naval Guard Unit
15th Nav Gd /1


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Ground combat at Daet [Luzon] (81,79)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 383 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 22

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 22 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Daet [Luzon] !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:



Assaulting units:
1st Sasebo SNLF Co


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Ground combat at Kota Bharu [Malaya] (51,75)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3395 troops, 36 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 135

Defending force 1023 troops, 6 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 32



Assaulting units:
CW 3rd ISF Base Force
CW FMSV Brigade
IA 8th Brigade

Defending units:
22nd (18 Div) Recon Regiment


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Ground combat at Wu-ch'uan [Inr Mon] (92,33)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4972 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 120

Defending force 2494 troops, 20 guns, 27 vehicles, Assault Value = 50


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
ROC 11th Corps

Defending units:
4th Cavalry "Bde" Regiment


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Ground combat at Po Lo [S China] (78,59)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 6024 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 171

Defending force 453 troops, 21 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 4



Assaulting units:
ROC 63rd Corps

Defending units:
2nd 4cm RpdFire Gun Battalion



RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: RHS China Theory

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:29 pm
by el cid again
China in RHS is at the core of the game. It is what the War in the Pacific is about. It is the opposite of a "quiet China" scenario - which I presume is for players who love an oceanic naval game without regard for the strategic rationale for the war. The proximate cause of the war was the embargo by the US, UK and NEI of oil, iron ore and rubber UNLESS it changed its policy in China. This in the broader context that Japan, more than any other nation, depends on imports. It cannot feed itself - something understood when Commodore Perry said so, advocating Japan open up to trade "so you don't have to drown girl babies in years of famine." Japan would become addicted to that trade, to feed its ever growing population. Japanese policy was different from European or US colonial policy mainly in that it started later in time and was successfully taking over colonial domination of China, to the detriment of Western interests. ROC archives indicate the ROC formally attempted to maneuver the USA into war with Japan, and believes it succeeded in that object. [See Origins of the Pacific War, Stansford University Press, Youli Sun, a Chinese academic given access to the KMT archives.]

For this reason, RHS has made a consistent effort to better model China, its economy, its geography, and its armed forces. In strategic terms, China is to Japan as the USSR is to Germany - a country invaded which is essentially too big to digest - a country it is desired to extract raw materials from and exploit industry in - and a country it hopes to divide and dominate. The number of locations in China has been increased by upwards of 100%. Locations were added mainly so the economic assets of the area could be modeled, but also so the Allies gain the ability to fortify that location and order supplies (resources, etc) to stockpile there, the ability to base aircraft there, and to explain why there is a road or rail line (or several) to that place (getting rid of the many "roads to nowhere" in stock). The sheer impact of these new locations, plus additional economic assets in existing locations, greatly increases the strategic and economic strength of China, and slows down any attempt to conquer the country - as there are more places to fight over where the fight can be difficult (because the place can be fortified).

There are several flavors of Chinese military forces. Since they operate under a nominal unified command, all except the RED faction operate under ROC command, with the technical exception of the tiny ROC Navy Command - a special creation to permit mainly riverine operations - requiring unrestricted units in order to load. A number of ROC and RED divisions can conduct amphibious operations, or make strategic movement by naval or merchant vessels - which is not the general case for Chinese units. All Chinese units operate within a semi-unified designation system - the numbers for each unit are part of a national scheme - and are historical. In spite of this, there are real differences between the different families of units. As well - some units retain traditional, pre reform names, as they really were better known by their old name than by the official name. Thus - every case of a "route army" is a case where that is what the unit was called, popularly, because of its fame with its no longer official name - which always is "corps."

Type 1: ROC: The biggest family of Chinese units is ROC government units. These are always prefixed by ROC and do NOT include the name of a province. Note that the group army HQ has been entirely removed from the OB: a group army is another name for a corps - and it is not a higher command echelon. On the other hand, War Areas, which serve as Army commands, are more rationally and historically located, permitting supporting line units except in the most remote areas of China. They are subdivided into sub groups:

Type 1A: Regular ROC: These are units with weapons and organizations nominally standardized in China. A "heavy corps" has three divisions in it - and was formerly known as a "route army." A "light corps" is a glorified division, treated as such - its name has "corps" in quotes and ends in the formal formation div. A heavy corps is a three division formation, formerly (and occaisionally still) known as a group army. A normal corps has two divisions and was formerly called (and occasionally still called) a field army. [If a unit was so famous under its older name it was still called that, I use that vice its formal official name]

Type 1B: US Equipped ROC: These are units using US weapons instead of ROC standard weapons. They often also are stronger units. There are two kinds of these: those organized before the Pacific War, and those organized BY the USA in India. These latter have more modern US weapons and standard US Army organization. These later divisions can divide like US divisions can.

Type 1C: Provincial ROC: These are units raised and often (but not always) maintained by Provinces. [Some such units, from provinces which are enemy controlled, retreated outside their original Province, and are now fed by national resources instead of local ones. They generally recruit men from the same Province, not merely for patriotic reasons, but also so they speak the right language. There are 634 dialects in China, and several command languages in use in this period.] These units are most often "light corps" - but occasionally semi-elite, larger and stronger "heavy corps." Provincial ROC also has cavalry formations, identified by the name of their Province in the unit name.

Type 1D: Warlord ROC: These are units of local warlordy's who have a loose arrangement - and nominal national unit designation - but are wholly controlled by an independent Warlord who runs an area. As such, these units are generally static, tied to the place the Warlord controls, gets men and supplies from, and is politically safe in. That static nature is not hard and fast - similar to guerilla units - under pressure - these units will become mobile. If they do, and if later they get well fed by supplies, they will "plant" and become static again. Old habits die hard: Warlords will tend to become warlords where ever you put them. EXCEPTION: Warlord cavalry units - the weakest of all Chinese units - pretty much pure horsemen with few heavy weapons - often hire as mercenaries - and they are always mobile.

Type 2: RED: Communist units are similar to ROC units but differ in several respects. They use Russian weapons instead of the national ROC weapons. They also have a separate command, nominally subordinate to the ROC command, and in important respects, similar to a war area command - it is a de facto Army HQ - of higher than usual quality and attributes than is normal in China. There is also a small RED riverine naval force, all based at Yenan, the locus of Red political power. This "micro navy" only has motor junks and a variation that function as landing craft. The transport junks may be converted into landing craft junks at a tiny shipyard at Yenan. The RED HQ and subordinate formations all have there real wartime commanders.

Type 3: Guerillas: Both ROC and RED guerilla "regiments" (which are actually battalions and stack as such) exist in RHS. These are not merely small land combat units, but quasi supply independent ones. ROC units have one static device in the formation they point at - so if well fed they will become (and many start out as) static. This because they tend to have ties to a local area, which they feed off of. RHS units are "self feeding" to some extent - enough that if not subject to combat - ROC units will tend to stay at 70% of their nominal full size and RED ones will tend to stay at full strength. IF partly fed by a LOC with a supply source, both will get supply heavy to a small degree and both will rebuild to full strength if below it. These units may undertake "missions" deep into enemy territory - because they will survive without supplies - where they can jump on LOC and be a source of constant irritation to the enemy. Under attack, they almost always retreat rather than surrender - even of most devices are lost. They can be killed however. In which case they will regenerate at Chunking, as all Chinese units do. This usually takes odds of high hundreds to one, although with a shock attack after air attack attrition, only dozens to one may work.

ROCAF is considerably larger than in stock, with more kinds of planes, and more base forces. These are distributed so there are no isolated places with short range fighters unable to move to other parts of China. It is generally possible to move from any part of China to any other - even the most remote areas - and from distant Sinkiang to or from the USSR - for most plane types. ROC also has a functional aviation factory working up (it was turning out reworked P-40s when the war began, and nearly got the CAF CW-21 Demon into production. As in the real war, the Japanese must take upper Burma to threaten this plant. [The CW-21 - also in service and even made in NEI - is a radical, high performance, light interceptor - US in origin but differing from USAAF preferences in design. It was successful re Japanese fighters - but overwhelmed by numbers.] ROC also nominally has the CNAC - a US owned airline with three kinds of equipment - DC-3s, DC-2s and Lockheed Model 18s - the former pressed into US service out of India early in 1942, before the US had lots of air transport in theater. These planes ought to be transferred to safer locations - as IRL - and used for air mobility and supply - as IRL - although many RHS players ignore them altogether.

ROC Navy is also present - never mind it was wiped out as a fighting force on the sea before the Pacific War began. [The two ROCN "cruisers" both eventually appear in IJN service - as escorts.] Nevertheless, ROC Navy HQ relocated to Chunking when the government (and most universities and other institutions) did - after the fall of Nanking. It is there and controls a significant river fleet - including two RN and one USN gunboats (formerly subject to ROC command from Feb 1942 IRL). This fleet consists of small transports and tankers, numbers of junks, a peculiar, Chinese form of landing craft modified from junks, and a few modestly armed gunboat junks. ROCN
motor junks may be converted to gunboat junks at any ROC shipyard, of which there are many distributed along the rivers and coasts of China. Other elements of ROCN are in isolated pockets along the coasts (these being assigned to UK SE Asia command) or on the Yellow River - which is isolated from the sea by flooding of its lower section - and which has three different "micro navies" on it - one RED, one ROC and one IJ Army!

Geography: In RHS, the Yangtze river gorge is modeled by "cliffs" - blocked hex sides - above Wuhan. Also, the Yellow, Yangtze, and Pearl rivers are fully navigable - including tributories of the Yangtze in Central China. This creates opportunities and vulnerabilities - and it appears the game system works well with riverine elements. The many ports along these rivers have small shipyards where naval vessels can be repaired or converted - and where a few junks appear regularly. Consideration is being given to how to model the "flooded region" of the lower Yangtze? And the one functional part of the Grand Canal during the war connects the Yangtze from the Lower Yellow River - which is navigable for a few hexes below the flooded region. The Upper Yellow River offers the only good LOC in Outer Mongolia. The Yangtze is navigable to ocean ships all the way to Wuhan - where ocean ships have been built since the 19th century - and by shallow draft vessels to (and beyond) CHunking.


RE: Duplicated post - ignore

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:33 pm
by el cid again
This is a duplicate post deleted for that reason.

RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: RHS China Theory

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:04 pm
by bigred
well

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: RHS China Theory

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:05 pm
by bigred
also

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: RHS China Theory

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:05 pm
by bigred
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Afternoon Air attack on Cebu [Cebu] , at 80,86

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 34
B4Y1 Jean x 9
B5N2 Kate TB x 14



Allied aircraft
P-40E Kittyhawk x 10


Japanese aircraft losses
A5M4 Claude: 4 destroyed
B5N2 Kate TB: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Kittyhawk: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B5N2 Kate TB bombing from 5000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
9 x B4Y1 Jean bombing from 5000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
24th PG/3rd PS with P-40E Kittyhawk (1 airborne, 2 on standby, 7 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes


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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: RHS China Theory

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:08 pm
by bigred
and finally
edit I meant allied units
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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: RHS China Theory

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:11 am
by el cid again
ORIGINAL: bigred

well

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Aha- he figured it out (partly)

I also have SURFACE SHIPS with aircraft in the detection net!

Spread over a large area - I fear the game is too effective at air search - so I limit all
such planes to 25% or 50% searche settings (the default setting for an I boat is 25 %
if it has a Glen - because much of the time the sea prevented launch)