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Haie und kleine Fische ("Sharks and Small Fish")
By Wolfgang Ott

Has been made into a movie in 1957 - can be found on youtube.

My candidates:

- Run Silent, run deep by Beach (includes a love story, so perfect for Hollywood - but it would probably be turned into another movie that shall not be named...)
- Japanese destroyer captain by Hara
- The Arnheiter Affair by Sheehan (The Caine mutiny was fiction - the Arnheiter affair was real)
- With the old breed by Sledge
- the Bolitho series by Douglas Reeman (aka Alexander Kent)

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget

ORIGINAL: Apollo11
#3
Haie und kleine Fische ("Sharks and Small Fish")
By Wolfgang Ott

Has been made into a movie in 1957 - can be found on youtube.

WOW - unbelievable!

I never knew that there was a movie (albeit black and white and from 1957) about that book (and I have read the book many many times in past 30+ years)... [X(]

Thanks for info!


Leo "Apollo11"

How did I forget Red Phoenix!

I'd love a whole series of Bolitho movies but you can't stop at only 1......or 5.

Charles Dickens - A Christmas Carol. I think this would be great subject for a film.

[:D][&o]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

I understand remake of "Damnbusters" is in the works.

I lay 10:1 they change the name of the squadron commander's dog.

I wonder if the younger generation will accuse them of ripping off dialog from Star Wars instead of it being the other way around.

ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget

ORIGINAL: Apollo11
#3
Haie und kleine Fische ("Sharks and Small Fish")
By Wolfgang Ott

Has been made into a movie in 1957 - can be found on youtube.

My candidates:

- Run Silent, run deep by Beach (includes a love story, so perfect for Hollywood - but it would probably be turned into another movie that shall not be named...)
- Japanese destroyer captain by Hara
- The Arnheiter Affair by Sheehan (The Caine mutiny was fiction - the Arnheiter affair was real)
- With the old breed by Sledge
- the Bolitho series by Douglas Reeman (aka Alexander Kent)

Run Silent, Run Deep has been done. 1958, starring Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster. Don Rickles has a role as well.

With the Old Breed was one of the sources for The Pacific mini-series.

- Guns of the South (Turtledove)
- Samurai (Saburo Sakai)
- The blonde knight of Germany (the bio of H. Hartmann)
- The night watch (by S.Pasini....i bet you don't know him[:)])
- The Gates of Fire (by S.Pressfield)

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
I bet we all have favorite books that haven't been made into movies. Here are five that I wish Peter Jackson would take on:
1. Hiero's Journey (by Sterling Lanier)
2. HMS Ulysses (by Allistair McLean)
3. Arundel (by Kenneth Roberts)
4. Rabble in Arms (by Kenneth Roberts)
5. Oliver Wiswell (by Kennth Roberts)
What books might you nominate? (Also, any of you gents ever read Hiero's Journey? It's been a favorite of mine since I find it in a shop outside Salt Lake City in 1974, but I've never known another person who has read it (outside of my children).

P.S. Having a great screenwriter and director would be critial to the success of the venture. Without it, you end up with Allistair McLean's Ice Station Zebra or Kenneth Robert's Northwest Passage, both of which were imminently forgettable films.

So sorry to move the thread back to the OP question, but ...
While I love Hiero's Journey, I think I would'a died and gone to Heaven if somebody righteous would do:
3. Arundel (by Kenneth Roberts)
4. Rabble in Arms (by Kenneth Roberts)
Two of the greatest books in our National Heritage. They are so flatly and completely historical, that they are perfect. But they contain, within themselves, a radically revisionist concept that rings utterly true. And you know just what I mean, yeah CR?.

For that alone, if somebody righteous did these, they would blow the doors off Star Wars or Harry Potter, or anything else. I'm not smart enough to be Steve Nason or Peter Merrill, not big enough for Cap Huff, but I'm old enough for Doc Means. I just might apply.

[ed] must say I'm impressed with your choices.

Xenophon's ANABASIS which Coyle like totally ripped off for Ten Thousand.
Farley Mowat's "And No Birds Sang" a gripping autobiographical story of a young, idealistic Canadian Infantry Officer in 1943-44 Italy.
John Harris's "A Covenant With Death" which would break the hearts of the biggest warmongers. Probably wouldn't go. I picture thousands of movie-goers walking out in tears and a quick trip to dvd for a wonderfully tragic story.
Thomas Keneally's (Schindlers Arc) "Confederates" a superb story of Jackson's corps in the Antietam campaign written by the masterful Austalian!! author. An incredibly authenic narrative of ordinary men at war.
The last a must read, IMHO, as a current Canadian, for ACW buffs.
cheers

I have to agree with "HMS Ulysses," "The Lensman series," and "Ender's Game."
I'd add "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" and for Heaven's Sake do an accurate version of "Starship Troopers." The original version of ST was almost as bad as the first "Dune."
I'd also love to see A&E do a continuation of the Hornblower series.

Any of the Flashman series. Of course, it wouldn't be a family film...

ORIGINAL: JWE

3. Arundel (by Kenneth Roberts)
4. Rabble in Arms (by Kenneth Roberts)

Two of the greatest books in our National Heritage. They are so flatly and completely historical, that they are perfect. But they contain, within themselves, a radically revisionist concept that rings utterly true. And you know just what I mean, yeah CR?.

For that alone, if somebody righteous did these, they would blow the doors off Star Wars or Harry Potter, or anything else. I'm not smart enough to be Steve Nason or Peter Merrill, not big enough for Cap Huff, but I'm old enough for Doc Means. I just might apply.

[ed] must say I'm impressed with your choices.

I think you're referring to Roberts' treatment of Benedict Arnold, which is fascinating and compelling.

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

Any of the Flashman series. Of course, it wouldn't be a family film...

They already made one. Malcom McDonald in Royal Flash. http://www.amazon.com/Royal-Flash-Malco ... s=flashman

Why remake Ulysses? I saw that stupid movie. It was about some old Jewish Irishman and the only thing it had to do
with the Royal Navy was some chic named Barnacle and it was in Dublin when the main RN facilities were at Cork/Cobh.
And in 1904 when nothing important was going on around there. No explosions or fires or battleships or battleships floating
around like burning Lincoln Logs and no Kate Bekinsale!! Yeah, they threw around a few f-bombs but really? Whatever.
what a dumb idea.
cheers

ORIGINAL: JWE

While I love Hiero's Journey, I think I would'a died and gone to Heaven if somebody righteous would do:
3. Arundel (by Kenneth Roberts)
4. Rabble in Arms (by Kenneth Roberts)
Two of the greatest books in our National Heritage. They are so flatly and completely historical, that they are perfect. But they contain, within themselves, a radically revisionist concept that rings utterly true. And you know just what I mean, yeah CR?....

I'm not smart enough to be Steve Nason or Peter Merrill, not big enough for Cap Huff, but I'm old enough for Doc Means. I just might apply.

These characters (in bold) are from Arundel and Rabble in Arms. They are memorable, as are such things as "Old Shaman Doc Means" (who appears when several Patriots are taken captive by the Indians and taken out west), "Philadelphia as Seen from Cooper's Ferry, and Mary Mallinson a/k/a Marie de Sabervois.

Be sure to catch Oliver Wiswell for additional unforgettable characters and elements like Thomas Buell, Perkins Metallic Tractors, "Nut Brown Maidens," and Lord Frances Rawdon at the Siege of Ninety-Six.

ORIGINAL: msieving1

Run Silent, Run Deep has been done. 1958, starring Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster. Don Rickles has a role as well.

With the Old Breed was one of the sources for The Pacific mini-series.

Well in that case I have to quote Apollo11:

I never knew that there was a movie about that book (and I have read the book many many times)... Thanks for info!
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Guess that over here (I'm German) the "Haie" movie made in Germany about a German sub is better known and shown more often (relatively speaking) on tv than the "Run Silent" Hollywood film about a US sub in the Pacific. I have checked a movie database and the German title of "Run silent" is misleading - gives the impression it it a film about a German sub ("U23 - Tödliche Tiefen"). Also it seems the film takes great liberties with the book - for example, in the book Bledsoe dies and Richardson survives, in the film it is the other way round. So I uphold my request for a remake closely following the book - love-story included [:'(] [duck&cover].


About "The Pacific" mini-series - did not know it is based on Sledge. Did not have a chance to watch it, when it was on tv over here it collided with the tv schedule of my wife - and I opted for instead of

ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget

ORIGINAL: msieving1

Run Silent, Run Deep has been done. 1958, starring Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster. Don Rickles has a role as well.

With the Old Breed was one of the sources for The Pacific mini-series.

Well in that case I have to quote Apollo11:

I never knew that there was a movie about that book (and I have read the book many many times)... Thanks for info!

Guess that over here (I'm German) the "Haie" movie made in Germany about a German sub is better known and shown more often (relatively speaking) on tv than the "Run Silent" Hollywood film about a US sub in the Pacific. I have checked a movie database and the German title of "Run silent" is misleading - gives the impression it it a film about a German sub ("U23 - Tödliche Tiefen"). Also it seems the film takes great liberties with the book - for example, in the book Bledsoe dies and Richardson survives, in the film it is the other way round. So I uphold my request for a remake closely following the book - love-story included [:'(] [duck&cover].


About "The Pacific" mini-series - did not know it is based on Sledge. Did not have a chance to watch it, when it was on tv over here it collided with the tv schedule of my wife - and I opted for instead of
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Run Silent, Run Deep had absolutely NO resemblence to the book. Author Capt. Ned Beach was pretty PO'ed about it. When they asked about the studio buying the rights to the book , he was pretty bitter and said "They only bought the title!". [:(]

I had forgotten about HMS Ulysses! That was a fantastic book. Hope I still have it somewhere. Would make a great war movie! Also agree on Red storm rising. Must be one of the best books out there on a Soviet/Nato war?

danlongman, I think you are confusing something! HMS Ulysses

I would really, really love to see Robert Jordans Wheel of Time books made into a HBO series. Sadly that not going to happen. Just to big to do!

Anyone read the book "To kill the Potemkin". That would make an awsome movie. Sad ending and all! [:)]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
I think you're referring to Roberts' treatment of Benedict Arnold, which is fascinating and compelling.

Yes. In the time period and setting of the books, he was one of the best and brightest we had. His later actions have been demonized and extend to everything he ever was or did, but he once was a man anyone would follow into Hell itself. Lo, how the mighty fall and are surrounded by the craven.

And 'pig-nuts' and Campbell, Easton and Brown! And Hogendorp and ship design, and the best description I ever read about Valcour Bay. And Pompey's ultimate lobscouse; "Got everytin in it G'nl, and some ship braid, and a snapper turkle, yow!"

As you might imagine, I love these books. When I first read them, some 40 odd years ago, I simply had to get a copy of Philadelphia as seen from Cooper's Ferry. It was a print by Joseph Wood, done in 1801 and so perhaps well known to Kenneth Roberts, but out of his book's timeline. Nonetheless, I got one and it's one wall of my office, just opposite to "The Empress of China; In the Straits of Sunda, July 30 1784" by Raymond Massey.

Kenneth Roberts should be required reading for any young mind. A good movie (or two), righteously done, might prompt todays youth to read his stuff and maybe do a skoosh of critical thinking.

I would like to see the third of the Gettysburg movies: Last Full Measure.
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