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ORIGINAL: Neilster

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ORIGINAL: Neilster

BTW, my Scottish mates want them to bugger off. They'd also like a proper, independent country like everyone else, please, and English people who bang on about their poxy pretend parliament tend to get punched repeatedly in the head [;)]

The above represents the situation advocates of Scottish independence like to pretend exists. The reality is that every time they have a poll a greater number of English people think Scotland should be independent than Scottish people do! Informing Scots of this usually produces looks of bafflement and prolonged silences that are most entertaining, as the implications sink in. [;)]

But I mentioned it because it's the situation that actually exists among my Scottish mates. [;)]

Cheers, Neilster

warspite1

I think you missed the point mate. I'm sure your Scottish mates think as they say - and fair play that's their choice. But the point - and its a serious one - is be careful what you wish for.

It is hard, if not impossible, to see how the generous healthcare and education benefits Scotland receive at present - much better than we in England receive - will be able to continue once the English are not around to pay for it.

I think you missed the point mate. I'm sure your Scottish mates think as they say - and fair play that's their choice. But the point - and its a serious one - is be careful what you wish for.

It is hard, if not impossible, to see how the generous healthcare and education benefits Scotland receive at present - much better than we in England receive - will be able to continue once the English are not around to pay for it.

There's no point for me to miss. I live in a properly independent country where we run all our affairs. I don't care about the economics of your Greater British Co-Prosperity Sphere [:)]

Cheers, Neilster

ORIGINAL: Neilster

I think you missed the point mate. I'm sure your Scottish mates think as they say - and fair play that's their choice. But the point - and its a serious one - is be careful what you wish for.

It is hard, if not impossible, to see how the generous healthcare and education benefits Scotland receive at present - much better than we in England receive - will be able to continue once the English are not around to pay for it.

I live in a properly independent country where we run all our affairs. I don't care about the economics of your Greater British Co-Prosperity Sphere [:)]

Cheers, Neilster

warspite1

I won't bother answering that one. There's only one way this will end up and I have too much respect for Australia, and the Aussies generally, to head there.

ORIGINAL: Neilster

There's no point for me to miss. I live in a properly independent country where we run all our affairs. I don't care about the economics of your Greater British Co-Prosperity Sphere [:)]

Cheers, Neilster

Taking GB out of this equation, there's still a lesson to be learned, for those willing to hear it Neilster. One need look no further than Canada to see a provincial separatist movement rear its head occasionally-threatening not only itself, but the rest of the national stability. Could the Quebecois maintain their very high standard of living as an independent country without the largess of the rest of Canada? Doubtful.

We could delve into the politics of 'protectorates' or 'territories' of the US deriving some benefit without 'paying into' the system what they yield too. Puerto Rico and Guam would be good places to start.

Lastly, I can't believe that there has been no talk *ever* about one of the original six federated colonies taking their marbles and going home, pointing the dirty finger at the others that "don't pull their weight".

It's the nature of the beast, mate. We get 'splitters' that want to separate North Colorado from South Colorado, North California from South California, Texas (and most other states) from the Union, etc. every flipping year. They're just brushed off as blowing off steam. They're disaffected in general and blinded about the self-serving impracticality of developing their own system of governance.

It's got nothing to do with being properly democratically run. It's about letting the fringe elements blow off their steam, but understand fully the costs of their frustrated secessional goals. Usually cooler heads prevail.

Taking GB out of this equation, there's still a lesson to be learned, for those willing to hear it Neilster.

Cool. Then they should learn it or whatever. I'm familiar with the concept. There's a long running secessionist movement in Western Australia but here it's based on economically powerful states or areas wanting to go it alone.

This doesn't have anything to do with me though. I was just reporting what my Scottish friends think.

Cheers, Neilster

Aye. I've got some Scottish friends too that have talked about this movement over the years. They pretty typically realize that such an effort, if realized, will be disastrous to their economy. Of course, they're pretty level-headed. Mostly, they derive 'mileage' from sticking it in the eye of the English, but they hope it doesn't go further than that. Kind of like the Quebecois.

Sounds like a new movie and game could come out of this.

Braveheart 2 [;)]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Aye. I've got some Scottish friends too that have talked about this movement over the years. They pretty typically realize that such an effort, if realized, will be disastrous to their economy. Of course, they're pretty level-headed. Mostly, they derive 'mileage' from sticking it in the eye of the English, but they hope it doesn't go further than that. Kind of like the Quebecois.

warspite1

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What incredible foresight my friend and his wife had!

Their son is named George, and was born on July 22 (some 20 years ago).

ORIGINAL: Zorch

What incredible foresight my friend and his wife had!

Their son is named George, and was born on July 22 (some 20 years ago).

warspite1

Right, so basically, the Royal couple just copied your friend. They should have a word - that's not cricket [:-]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Zorch

What incredible foresight my friend and his wife had!

Their son is named George, and was born on July 22 (some 20 years ago).

warspite1

Right, so basically, the Royal couple just copied your friend. They should have a word - that's not cricket [:-]

Ironically, George's nickname has always been "King".

British press on royal birth

You always know you've won an argument when the opposition resort to lies and untruths.

- Private Eye is a satirical magazine - its headline, which is actually quite funny, is more about the fact that the news occupied the papers and news programs for days rather than any anti-royalist sentiment.

The Daily Mail front page was of course completely made up. The royals do not live off the state - they work damn hard for this country and bring in millions.

How the birth was really reported

Was actually back over that side of the pond, I thought the coverage of the event was pitched pretty much at the right level.

Newspapers went a bit more crazy than the TV.

Congrats to the Royal couple.

I didn't have interweb access, but I did call Louis as a middle name to my family. (after Louis Mountbatten obviously)

ORIGINAL: catwhoorg

Was actually back over that side of the pond, I thought the coverage of the event was pitched pretty much at the right level.

Newspapers went a bit more crazy than the TV.

Congrats to the Royal couple.

I didn't have interweb access, but I did call Louis as a middle name to my family. (after Louis Mountbatten obviously)

Before the name was announced, I told my wife that Alexander would be a good first name. Missed it by thaaat much [:)]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

You always know you've won an argument when the opposition resort to lies and untruths.

- Private Eye is a satirical magazine - its headline, which is actually quite funny, is more about the fact that the news occupied the papers and news programs for days rather than any anti-royalist sentiment.

The Daily Mail front page was of course completely made up. The royals do not live off the state - they work damn hard for this country and bring in millions.

How the birth was really reported

Aye. According to the Sydney Herald (lower right), they have the entire heirarchy of the royal family tree on the page with the comment that "they will all go to PNG" below. Are the royals going to Port Moresby for vacation or getaway? Seems a bit distant for a little fun in the sun, idnit?

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay

I was secretly hoping for:

Tarquin Fin-Tim-Lin-Bin-Whin-Bim-Lim-Bus-Stop-F'tang-F'tang-Olé-Biscuitbarrel.

Oh well. Maybe next time.

warspite1

Yeah it was very close to happening too. There were lots of heated arguments between the Royal Family members overheard on Tuesday evening by the nursing staff. However, try as she might, The Queen just could not get William and Kate to go along with it..... so they got their way with plain old George.

Well, now they have a second chance. Let's hope that common sense prevails this time.

ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay

I was secretly hoping for:

Tarquin Fin-Tim-Lin-Bin-Whin-Bim-Lim-Bus-Stop-F'tang-F'tang-Olé-Biscuitbarrel.

Oh well. Maybe next time.

warspite1

Yeah it was very close to happening too. There were lots of heated arguments between the Royal Family members overheard on Tuesday evening by the nursing staff. However, try as she might, The Queen just could not get William and Kate to go along with it..... so they got their way with plain old George.

Well, now they have a second chance. Let's hope that common sense prevails this time.

warspite1

'Fraid not. They have eschewed Tarquin Fin-Tim etc etc for plain old Charlotte. It seems common sense has no place in the Royal Household...[&:]

[:D]

But in all seriousness - congratulations to the Royal Couple, Prince George and of course little Princess Charlotte

Her Royal Highness Princess Charlotte Elizabeth Diana of Cambridge.

4th in line to the throne.

-10 opinion towards Prince George. She'll be starting a Plot soon, too.