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RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:23 pm
by dak41
Turn15:agc:All the armor has gone south, infantry attacking where it makes sense.

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RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:25 pm
by dak41
turn15:ags1:Panzers still heading south. Don't see much in the way. He still reamains stuck like glue to the Dneiper.

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RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:28 pm
by dak41
Turn15:ags2:He's definitely stopped 1st Panzer. 11th army digging in north of the Cirmea.

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RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:12 am
by 2ndACR
Need to pull the 11th army troops at the Crimea back some to locations where the Russian can only mass a max of 3 units against you. Get in the choke points. If you allow him to be able to get attacks from 2 hexes or more, he is going to break your line come blizzard. I would make sure the Romanian Mtn units are down there also. Swapping out a regular inf div for a German Mtn div broken down to regiment in each hex with a normal German inf div will make the blocking force down there much better come blizzard if you can locate in areas he can only mass 3 units against you. If you move all the Ally mountain units down there and locate with a regular German div, you could use the German Mtn as your reserve down there to break his teeth.

You need to get some Ally troops in any size 2 and above town/city and start them digging. Those cities will help protect them from Blizzard. The blizzard will butcher the allied troops much worse than your German troops. Only the Mtn troops are worth anything come the 2nd to 3rd turn of blizzard. Allies that is. The others will crumble like a wet piece of paper at the slightest attack.

RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:28 am
by Callistrid
Your front line seems to be awfull. You failed to capture Leningrad, Moscow, Stalino... any valuable object. I belive the retreat to the non-blizzard line would be the best strategy at this time. Saving your troops morale, manpower + equipment. In 42 you can try to hit the strong soviet forces, with high morale troops.

RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:20 am
by dak41
Good ideas. Yeah I planned on pulling those 11th army divisions back to the choke points. I have them forward deployed right now so the other units behind them can dig in unmolested. This AAR is several turns behind due to the server crash. But I am giving up the offensive and focusing on getting ready to try to survive winter.

RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:22 am
by dak41
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Need to pull the 11th army troops at the Crimea back some to locations where the Russian can only mass a max of 3 units against you. Get in the choke points. If you allow him to be able to get attacks from 2 hexes or more, he is going to break your line come blizzard. I would make sure the Romanian Mtn units are down there also. Swapping out a regular inf div for a German Mtn div broken down to regiment in each hex with a normal German inf div will make the blocking force down there much better come blizzard if you can locate in areas he can only mass 3 units against you. If you move all the Ally mountain units down there and locate with a regular German div, you could use the German Mtn as your reserve down there to break his teeth.

You need to get some Ally troops in any size 2 and above town/city and start them digging. Those cities will help protect them from Blizzard. The blizzard will butcher the allied troops much worse than your German troops. Only the Mtn troops are worth anything come the 2nd to 3rd turn of blizzard. Allies that is. The others will crumble like a wet piece of paper at the slightest attack.

Good ideas. Yeah I planned on pulling those 11th army divisions back to the choke points. I have them forward deployed right now so the other units behind them can dig in unmolested. This AAR is several turns behind due to the server crash. But I am giving up the offensive and focusing on getting ready to try to survive winter.

RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:25 am
by dak41
Your front line seems to be awfull. You failed to capture Leningrad, Moscow, Stalino... any valuable object. I belive the retreat to the non-blizzard line would be the best strategy at this time. Saving your troops morale, manpower + equipment. In 42 you can try to hit the strong soviet forces, with high morale troops.

Yes it is.Yep that's my only (slim) hope

RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:31 am
by 2ndACR
You are going to be hard pressed, that is for sure, no matter what you do really. Focus on killing and beating the crap out of every Cav unit you can see or get at. They are the worst demon's you will face during the blizzard. Encircle them if you can and kill them, they should always be your priority target.

RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:27 pm
by dak41
ORIGINAL: 2ndACR

You are going to be hard pressed, that is for sure, no matter what you do really. Focus on killing and beating the crap out of every Cav unit you can see or get at. They are the worst demon's you will face during the blizzard. Encircle them if you can and kill them, they should always be your priority target.

Yep, been doing that too. You will see that in an upcoming turn when I post it. He had a bunch of cavalry out in front of Stalino, and 1st Panzer took a joy ride thru the herd. But I will be looking for other cavalry to whack in the next couple of turns also.

All my TOE is skewed to infantry right now: infantry,Mt.Inf,engineers,MG,airborne,airlanding. If they don't carry a rifle TOE is 50%. Thinking about sending all my airbases to Poland or Rumania to prevent the aircrews becoimg frost bite victims. Might leave some bases behind for transports.

RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:52 pm
by Flaviusx
Running back to Poland amounts to a declaration of strategic bankruptcy that will merely hand over the game to the Soviet, if he knows what he's doing. It just delays the inevitable. This idea that somehow you can recover after such a drastic runaway won't work. The Soviet, lacking any pressure at all on their replacement situation will blow up and need only wait until 1943 to build an offensive army and then grind their way to Berlin.

If you really feel you need to do this...resign. Start fresh.

RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:16 pm
by dak41
ORIGINAL: Flaviusx

Running back to Poland amounts to a declaration of strategic bankruptcy that will merely hand over the game to the Soviet, if he knows what he's doing. It just delays the inevitable. This idea that somehow you can recover after such a drastic runaway won't work. The Soviet, lacking any pressure at all on their replacement situation will blow up and need only wait until 1943 to build an offensive army and then grind their way to Berlin.

If you really feel you need to do this...resign. Start fresh.

I didn't say I was running back to Poland. Just sending empty airbases back while their planes are in national reserve.

RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:23 pm
by dak41
Turn16:agn: building second line up here., making sure units that can be attacked by 3 hexes have support units attached, preferable pioneers.Also making sure all HQ's have artillery/flak, since they piled up in some headquarters, and not others.

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RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:25 pm
by dak41
Turn16:agc:Guderian disobeys von Kluge and heads for the river! Probably pay for this crazy business, but hopefully it will draw him from the western side of the river.

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RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:33 pm
by dak41
Turn16:ags: Attacked some weak units with 1st Panzer, don't want to wander out too far here, with mud coming, plus 1st panzer is tired. Axis allies given shovels and ordered to dig positions from Z-town to the sea of Azov. Lot of Soviet cavalry around Stalino out on the open steppes. hmmm.

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RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:36 pm
by dak41
Turn17:agn:Some battles here to inflict casulaties on him where it looks easy or to gain a position. But mostly getting ready for winter.

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RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:39 pm
by dak41
Turn17:agc:Yep he isolated some of my panzers. I was able to limk up all of them. Pulled back. Poor guy at the end isn't going to make it out.Could have kept more panzers to maintain contact with him, but that would just get them cutoff also.

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RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:42 pm
by dak41
Turn17:ags:1st Panzer played whack a mole with his cavarly near Stalino, I didn't keep track of his losses but hopefully it hurt (a little).

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RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:49 pm
by Flaviusx
Somebody uptopic was urging you to run past the blizzard line, i.e., to Poland. Seriously, don't do this. Not against Ketza, who knows what he is about (playing either side, even) and would take every advantage of this. It's not the answer. You're definitely in a pickle, and I see no easy answer for you. In your shoes I would very frankly resign and try again. This is a lopsided match, and Ketza ought to know better than to play a rookie. He's probably one of the top 5-6 PBEMers in this game on either side, and should stick to the heavyweight division.




RE: dak41_vs_ketza

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:20 pm
by Bozo_the_Clown
Don't send your airbases to Germany. Instead use them to guard the most important rail line against partisans.

And watch those 70 miles of front line guarded by Romanians and Hungarians along the Dnepr. They won't be able to hold the line. If you don't watch it he is going to establish a bridgehead there before the blizzard and then keep on rolling south during the blizzard. He's just going to smash right through there and cut off all the troops to the east.

Good luck!