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Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:20 am**

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Yak-25 Yak-25M and Yak-25K (Flashlight A )
Engines:Mikulin RD-5A not RD-9
Armament Yak-25 Yak-25M : Two N-37L cannons 50rpg - 100 rpg in overload Configuration
No bombs or unguided rockets and no guided AAMs (Interceptor aircraft not a fighterbomber)
Armament Yak-25K :four K-5 (RS-1U) (Nato code name AA-1 Alkali) No guns
Radar:Yak-25 RP-1D (Detection range 12 km 7,5 miles track range 2km 1.25miles)
Yak-25M RP-6 Sokol limited lock-down capability (target at 300 meters)
(Detection range 30km 16,2nm : (70km 43,5miles 16sq m target))
Track 30km 18,6 miles 16sq m target
Typical service rating night and bad weather medium altitude detection :15km 8,1 nm :lock-on 5km 2,7 nm
low level detection 8km 4,3 nm lock-on 3 km 1,6 nm
Yak-25K RP-1U (same as MiG-17PF) Seach range 7.5km 4nm lock on 4.5km 2.4nm
Performance Yak-25:
Max speed- 708mph 616kts at 13123ft - 684mph 594kts at 16404ft -(CWDB 990kts)
Initial climb 9840ft/min - time to hight 2,3 min to 16404ft (avg. 7132ft/min). 6.4min to 32808ft (avg.5126ft/min)
Service ceiling 45600ft
Weight empty 6210kg normal loaded 9220kg
Takeoff run 775 meters landing run 825 meters normal to/weight
Range: Clean 1305 miles 1134 nm - 1678 miles 1459 nm with ext. tank
Fuel internal: 3445 l. 758 imp gal (6063lbs 2750 kg) one 151 imp gal belly tank
Performance Yak-25M:
Max speed: 682mph 593kts at 9840ft
Initial climb 8861ft/min time to hight 2,8 min to 16404ft (avg. 5716t/min) 7.9min to 32808ft (avg.4153ft/min)
Weight empty 6410kg max loaded 10045kg
Range: Clean 1249 miles 1086 nm - 1591 miles 1383 nm with ext. tank
Takeoff run 800 meters landing run 850 meters normal
Fuel internal: 3445 l. 758 imp gal (5952lbs 2700 kg) one 151 imp gal 540 kg 1190lbs conformal aux.tank
Performance Yak-25K:max speed at 16404ft 621mph 540kts Build in small numbers - less than 40.Hardly a service aircraft (Testbeds)
All versions no RWR and not designed for Carrier ops.- Impossible for this aircraft to land on a carrier
with its special undercarriage
Barny
Ref:
Yefim Gordon: Yakolev Yak-25/-23/-27/-28
Bill Gunston & Yefim Gordon:Yakolev Aircraft since 1924

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:35 pm**

Add Boom refueling for F-105. F-105s were able to be refueled by both boom or probe-drogue.

Look at the pictures on the right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_refueling#Compatibility_issues

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:14 pm**

When building my 1950 scenario, I noticed a lack of civilian and commercial aircraft to add. Only a neutral DC-3 was available. It's a low priority of course, but could we have a few more civilian and commercial prop planes for 1946-? Preferably the bigger ones, like DC-4s. Thanks [:)]

Posted: **Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:10 pm**

Independence class CVL has 17 medium A/C space in current database.
It is not enough to load her typical A/C complement.
24x F6F + 9x TBM (24/2 + 9 = 21)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independen ... ft_carrier

French navy's Arromanches (Colossus class CVL) has 11 medium A/C space currently.
Her A/C complement in Suez Crisis:
14x F4U + 10x TBM + 2x HUP-2 (14/2 + 10 + 2 = 19 )
http://www.acig.info/CMS/?option=com_co ... &Itemid=47

Posted: **Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:39 pm**

Avenger of Royal Navy has agility 3.
Other TBM in CWDB has 2.

Posted: **Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:55 pm**

ORIGINAL: Temple

When building my 1950 scenario, I noticed a lack of civilian and commercial aircraft to add. Only a neutral DC-3 was available. It's a low priority of course, but could we have a few more civilian and commercial prop planes for 1946-? Preferably the bigger ones, like DC-4s. Thanks [:)]

Posted: **Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:58 pm**

Hi will add and update all your comments for the next DB Builld

ORIGINAL: Mgellis

ORIGINAL: Temple

When building my 1950 scenario, I noticed a lack of civilian and commercial aircraft to add. Only a neutral DC-3 was available. It's a low priority of course, but could we have a few more civilian and commercial prop planes for 1946-? Preferably the bigger ones, like DC-4s. Thanks [:)]

Along these lines, a few ideas...

Douglas DC-6
Number built: 704
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-6
http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/ ... dc6_en.php
http://www.airlines-inform.com/commerci ... -6%20.html
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/ ... ain?id=190
http://www.brinkley.cc/AC/dc6f.htm

Douglas DC-4
Number built: 80 DC-4 and 1,163 C-54/R5D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC-4
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/ ... ain?id=189
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft ... aft_id=110
http://www.boeing.com/boeing/history/mdc/dc-4.page
http://www.airlines-inform.com/commerci ... -DC-4.html

Douglas DC-8
Number built: 556
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-8
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/ ... ain?id=192
http://www.dc-8.co.uk/specs.htm
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft ... aft_id=244
http://ialcargo.com/specs/dc8.pdf
http://www.brinkley.cc/AC/dc873f.htm

Lockheed Constellation
Number built: 856
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Constellation
http://www.airlines-inform.com/commerci ... ation.html
http://www.historynet.com/the-legendary ... lation.htm
http://www.aviation-history.com/lockheed/1049.html
http://www.ruudleeuw.com/connie-text.htm
http://www.mcchord.org/magazine/Lockhee ... lation.pdf
http://www.what2fly.com/manufacturer/lo ... n_l749.php

Vickers Viscount
Number built: 445
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_Viscount
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/ ... ain?id=380
http://www.vickersviscount.net/Pages_Te ... sions.aspx
http://www.vickersviscount.net/Pages_Te ... ntent.aspx
http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/ ... unt_en.php
http://www.eastmidlandsairport.com/emaw ... scount.pdf

De Havilland Comet
Number built: 114 (including prototypes)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Comet
http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/ ... 106_en.php
http://www.canadianwings.com/Aircraft/a ... ?COMET-113
http://www.aer.ita.br/~bmattos/mundo/airliner/comet.htm

Antonov An-2
Number built: 18,000+ (!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-2
http://www.an2flyers.org/an2specs.html
http://www.sibwings.com/an2/manual.pdf
http://www.classicwings-bavaria.com/html/biplane.php

Tupolev Tu-104
Number built: 201
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-104
http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/ ... 104_en.php
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... tu-104.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... -specs.htm
http://aviation-safety.net/database/typ ... -104/specs

Tupolev Tu-134
Number built: 852 (850 + 2 prototypes)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu-134
http://www.airlines-inform.com/commerci ... u-134.html
http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/ ... 134_en.php
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... tu-134.htm
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/ ... ain?id=375

I hope this helps.

Posted: **Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:22 pm**

ORIGINAL: Temple

When building my 1950 scenario, I noticed a lack of civilian and commercial aircraft to add. Only a neutral DC-3 was available. It's a low priority of course, but could we have a few more civilian and commercial prop planes for 1946-? Preferably the bigger ones, like DC-4s. Thanks [:)]

And a few more...

Yakovlev Yak-40
Number built: 1,011
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-40
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/ ... ain?id=386
http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/ ... k40_en.php

de Havilland Canada DHC-4 Caribou
Number built: 307
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilla ... -4_Caribou
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/ ... ain?id=180
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft ... aft_id=164
http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/ ... hc4_en.php
http://www.aviastar.org/air/canada/deha ... aribou.php

de Havilland Canada DHC-6 Twin Otter
Number built: 850+
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilla ... Twin_Otter
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/ ... ain?id=181
http://www.719skvadron.no/dhc6/dhc6-spec.htm
http://www.airlines-inform.com/commerci ... Otter.html

Piper PA-31 Navajo
Number built: 3942
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-31_Navajo
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/ ... ain?id=311
https://www.aopa.org/Pilot-Resources/Ai ... ftain.aspx

de Havilland Canada DHC-2 Beaver
Number built: 1,657
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHC-2
http://www.dhc-2.com/Tech_Specs.html
http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%20p ... land/6.htm
http://www.airlines-inform.com/commerci ... eaver.html

de Havilland Dove
Number built: 542
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Dove
http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/ ... 104_en.php
http://www.natureandtech.com/?cat=78
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/ ... ain?id=184

Convair CV-240
Number built: 1,181 (all versions)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_CV-240_family
http://www.aviastar.org/air/usa/convair-240.php
http://www.prop-liners.com/c240tech.htm
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/ ... ain?id=169

I hope this helps.

Posted: **Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:40 am**

Is this thread a good place for CWDB errors? Loadout for Lincoln B.30 RAF 2000lb LDGP, RAF 250lb LDGP includes RAF 500lb LDGP not RAF 250lb LDGP.

Posted: **Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:38 pm**

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ORIGINAL: Baloogan

Is this thread a good place for CWDB errors? Loadout for Lincoln B.30 RAF 2000lb LDGP, RAF 250lb LDGP includes RAF 500lb LDGP not RAF 250lb LDGP.

Posted: **Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:39 pm**

Noted

ORIGINAL: fool12342000

Avenger of Royal Navy has agility 3.
Other TBM in CWDB has 2.

Posted: **Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:40 pm**

Noted

ORIGINAL: markadmiral

Aloha,

There are two scenarios I would like to start working on. These are Paracels (Xisha) 1974 - this pits four Republic of Vietnamese ships versus 4-6 PLA Navy ships. All PLA Navy ships are in the database, but there was one EDSALL class (DE) and two BARNETGAT class small seapolane tenders (recast as patrol craft) in the fight. The other battle I am considering is the 06 Aug 1965 Battle of Shantou, where two ROCN subchasers were sunk by the PLA Navy. They were trying to land agent provocatuers to take advantage of the chaos in the PRC as the Cultural Revolution gathered steam. Didn't work out so well. This would be a good cat and mouse scenario with the KMT trying to sneak in at night to the coast and the PLAN trying to guess where they will land. The ships I would for both need are:

RVN Edsall DE (3 x 3"/50 guns)•
2 × 40 mm AA guns (1 × 2)
• 8 × 20 mm AA guns (8 × 1)
• 3 × 21 in (530 mm) torpedo tubes (1 × 3) (U.S. advisors did not provide torps)
• 8 × depth charge projectors
• 1 × depth charge projector (hedgehog)
• 2 × depth charge tracks

RVN Barnegat PF (1 X 5"/38; 2 x 81mm mortars)

TWN/ROCN PC-461 class (290 tons)
Armament: 1 3"/50, 1 40mm, 4 20mm, depth charges, hedgehog (estimate)

I've got some stats (not sure how reliable they are)

Thanks,

Mark

Posted: **Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:41 pm**

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ORIGINAL: fool12342000

>>06 Aug 1965 Battle of Shantou, where two ROCN subchasers were sunk by the PLA Navy.

Two ships are
PCE-45 Chien Men (ex-AM-387 Toucan, Auk class)
PC-118 Chang Chiang (ex-PC-1232, PC-461 Class)

Posted: **Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:31 pm**

According to
http://orbat.com/site/history/historica ... orbat.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_Meteor

Egypt, Syria and Israel used Meteor NF Mk13, not Mk14.

Posted: **Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:10 pm**

Hunter F.1 / F.2 / F.4 / F.6 should be fighter instead of attacker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Hunter_variants

Meteor TT.20 should be target towing instead of EW
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_Meteor#Variants

Sea Hawk F.1 / F.2 should be fighter instead of attacker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Sea_Hawk#Variants

Posted: **Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:48 pm**

Noted

ORIGINAL: fool12342000

According to
http://orbat.com/site/history/historica ... orbat.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_Meteor

Egypt, Syria and Israel used Meteor NF Mk13, not Mk14.

Posted: **Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:49 pm**

Noted

ORIGINAL: fool12342000

Hunter F.1 / F.2 / F.4 / F.6 should be fighter instead of attacker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Hunter_variants

Meteor TT.20 should be target towing instead of EW
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_Meteor#Variants

Sea Hawk F.1 / F.2 should be fighter instead of attacker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Sea_Hawk#Variants

Posted: **Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:56 pm**

Hey Sirius,

I'm planning to do an episode focusing on the 1950s, early early 1960s using the CWDB, I was wondering if there was anything particular you would like me to showcase? Anything in the CWDB you are particularly passionate about.

I've been playing almost exclusively DB3000 till about a week and a half ago when I realize that "F-22s destroying everything in their path" while realistic isn't really as much fun as 12 F-102A firing a volley of Genie rockets at a large soviet bomber formation!

Plus since the era doesn't have as many sensors per platform the game runs faster with 800+ units in the air!

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:18 am**

P38L's max speed should be 360kt instead of 461kt.
http://www.aero-web.org/specs/lockheed/p-38l.htm
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsh ... asp?id=495

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_P ... 28P-38L.29
Its weapon is 1× Hispano M2 20 mm cannon with 150 rounds
But currently, it has 20 x 20mm Hispano Mk5 x 2 Burst [50 rnds] -> 20 x 50 = 1000 rounds.
Should it be 6 x 20mm Hispano Mk5 x1 Burst [25 rnds] ?

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:52 am**

P-47D's max speed should be 376kt instead of 420kt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_P ... derbolt.29
Or 364kt according to
http://www.aero-web.org/specs/republic/p-47d.htm

Currently, its weapon is 2 x 50 Cal Quad with 20 x 12.7mm/50 MG Burst[10 rnds] -> 2 x 20 x 10 = 400 rounds

Should it be 17 x 12.7mm/50 MG x 4 Burst [100 rnds] per mount ?
(17 x 100 x 2 = 3400 rounds)

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