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RE: Turn 14
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 4:43 pm
by 821Bobo
Regarding the fuel I also believe it is useless to bomb it, but its fun [:D]
Loki, it seems Moscow is safe. With the mud season Dave started to prepare for Blizzard. But with my luck on weather he still may change his mind.
RE: Turn 14
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 4:47 pm
by loki100
ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS
36 Mig 3 was probably overkill. ...
actually don't move any unless Moscow is directly threatened. When they flip to Il-2 production in early 1942 they also reset at a value of 1 (regardless of what you've evacuated). So you may as well stock up on Migs (they actually are quite good in a bomber role as they carry rockets) and then move the single Il-2 factory in 1942. It'll repair soon enough, but you will be short of Il-2s till the summer of 1942 (another reason to build a core of ShAP units around the Migs till then)
RE: Turn 14
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 4:56 pm
by 821Bobo
ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS
I have to say your industry evacuation plan could use some minor refinement.
You only needed to evac one LI-2. Transport aircraft aren't all that important at this stage and you could afford to let the industry regrow. If you want to supply partisans you can do the same with LBs.
Pe-3 is a fighter bomber and sub par to boot. Either let them die or evacuate one.
10 Pe-2 from Moscow when again you only needed one. It will be a while before the IL-4s and DB-3Bs are in short supply.
36 Mig 3 was probably overkill. You will get more of that type aircraft out before the production run which is good. But at the same time a smaller evacuation would have allowed you to take out other stuff like arms and vehicles.
I share your pain on the one guards rifle division. Dave did exactly the same thing to me.
Reduced blizzard is going to likely keep him close to Moscow, so good luck with that when the time comes.
I know that my evacuation was not optimal but until T10(?) I have not been under pressure.
Li-2: in some previous games I was able to supply Leningrad via air for couple of turns. They may be useful in 41.
Pe-3: I agree they are actually useless but I am playing for fun and I like to have some groups flying them.
Pe-2: you right, there is no point to evacuate more
MiG-3: In previous game vs Brian, in late 42 I ran out of fighters. MiG-3 pool was empty and I did not had enough other fighters in pool to reequip squads with new models. I think its worth the get from the MiG factory as much as you can.
Regarding the guard division I was surprised when I noticed it will rebuild.
And yes, I do not expect any huge gains from the Blizzard. At least he will probably not run.
Turn 15
Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 4:32 am
by 821Bobo
25.9.1941 - 1.10.1941
I have spotted at least 2 Pz Korps front of Voronezh therefore Il-2 evacuation had priority. Voronezh factories are actually the only ones producing IL-2. I needed to evacuate as much as possible otherwise I would be out of production for long time.
37(from 44, I will be 5-6 weeks w/o IL2 production) IL-2 from Voronezh
1 IL-2 from Voronezh
Germans have captured Osinovets without any problems. Supply is now possible only via air.
Turn 15
Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 4:35 am
by 821Bobo
I have lost only few hexes in Moscow sector and luckily no new pocket.
Turn 15
Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 4:48 am
by 821Bobo
Well maybe it is only one Pz Korps down there, in front of Voronezh. But one Korps is enough for locking industry there. Better safe than sorry. From Tula to the south, my lines are very weak(with exception of Donbass).
RE: Turn 15
Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 5:28 am
by morvael
Leningrad is to be finished before mud. Moscow is target for snow offensive. In the south he'll want to cause some havoc and destroy factories.
RE: Turn 15
Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 5:39 am
by 821Bobo
Maybe not, he is really digging hard. Also with Panzers but that may well be deception together with our mail correspondence.
Turn 16
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 7:40 am
by 821Bobo
2.10.1941 - 8.10.1941
Factories evacuated:
8 armament points from West Moscow
3 armament points from Kalinin
3 armament points from Lipetsk
Looking at the numbers I am pretty sure something more was evacuated but probably I forgot to write it.
Airbase keeping Leningrad in supply has been displaced. Now only supply drops are available. CVs are not that bad, with some luck(so far I had none) I may hold it for couple more weeks.
Turn 16
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 7:52 am
by 821Bobo
New medium size pocket with 12 rifle divisions between Orel and Kursk. It seems my worries about Voronezh were unnecessary.
Moreover Panzers had reached Moscow but were thrown back by the mighty RA.
RE: Turn 16
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 7:55 am
by 821Bobo
And the south with little change. Only small retreat forced by the Orel-Kursk pocket
RE: Turn 16
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 8:34 am
by loki100
looks like Dave is settling down to a few last pockets designed to reduce the size of the Red Army rather than going for critical cities?
be good if you can hold Leningrad into the mud turns, that will delay any transfer of troops to other sectors at least
RE: Turn 16
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 8:47 am
by 821Bobo
Currently I am waiting for the first snow turn. He will maybe try something however in mud season I was "lucky" as usual and we had lot of snow and even a clear weather but Dave has been passive.
RE: Turn 16
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 3:34 pm
by Peltonx
I think dave is looking at a 2 yr plan as per your opinions.
Job#1 take Leningrad.
He can dig in and you will not be able to move him along 1/2 the front or more as its very short.
You done a good job controlling his panzers over the summer.
Turn 17
Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 4:00 am
by 821Bobo
9.10.1941 - 15.10.1941
Industry evacuated:
10 vehicle points from Moscow
3 HI points from Moscow
All quit on the Eastern front. Dave is digging hard from Leningrad to Black sea.
Probably final 1941 lines.
edit. It was not so quiet after all. I forget that Leningrad fell [:(]
Turn 18
Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 4:09 am
by 821Bobo
16.10.1941 - 22.10.1941
Industry evacuated:
9 HI points from Moscow
2 IL-4 from Moscow
It was a long summer with not a single mud turn but finally with mud season we have bad weather in every zone. No actions at all this week.
OOB and casualties by end of summer campaign.
PS. ignore the low count of A/C. I moved most of them to National reserve. The real numbers are around 9k.
