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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:05 pm
by rkr1958
Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #5. The Western Front.
In the hopes of not overreacting to the CW intervention into Denmark, the Germans move forces into to Denmark to respond. Most importantly, they continue their transfer of forces from the East to the West for the impending invasion of the Low Countries and then France.
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:09 pm
by rkr1958
Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #5. Sian, China. Japanese Strategic Bombing.
Turning to Asia, the Japanese successfully bomb Chinese production reducing it by 1.
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:14 pm
by rkr1958
Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #5. Ground Strike, Land Combat. China [75,139].
The Japanese are finally able to engage the communist Chinese in northern China and clear the way for an attack on Tungkwan, China (next turn or later with fine weather). Though successful, the land combat disorganize much of the remaining Japanese land forces in northern China which basically ends Japanese combat operations there for the remainder of this turn.
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:15 pm
by rkr1958
Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #5. Northern (communist) China.
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:18 pm
by rkr1958
Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #5. End of Impulse.
Game turn attached. So, should the French DOW Italy?
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:40 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: Finarfïn
Hello,
nice to see another aar from you
.
I know i'm late but how did you go to Frederickshaven. I count 5 PM (4 clear hex +1 for the strait),
but as usual i can be wrong;).
Fin
Fin,
The cost is 4 movement points because the option railway movement bonus is in play. (4 clear hexes + 1 for the straits - 1 for the railway across the straits)
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:45 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: rkr1958
ORIGINAL: Orm
Is Japan letting China use sea supply?!
I'm not sure what you mean? How would China get sea supply?
From a Chinese coastal hex across the sea to Pakhoi and then two land hexes to Nanning.
As I see it, the cavalry in Amoy would be OOS unless sea supply was provided.
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:07 pm
by Jagdtiger14
I like your idea of allowing viewers to have input, but I would have liked it much better if you had come up with that from the start.
As for a possible French DOW on Italy, what French naval assets are currently in port? What does the French/Italian border look like (I see part of it and the Italians look strong there)? What about Tunisia/Libya? If its only to get surprise on the Italian naval assets, I don't see enough French naval assets to make it worth the US chit hit at the moment. Perhaps the French fleet can coalesce in the Med in the near future and decide then depending on Italian activity there. On the other hand, the possibility of Italian bombers showing up on the French-German border might force this issue anyway.
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:41 am
by rkr1958
ORIGINAL: rkr1958
Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #5. End of Impulse.
So, should the French DOW Italy?
Also, the
Soviets will claim Bessarabia this next impulse. Should the Germans allow the claim?
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:52 am
by Centuur
Let the Italians go to war. A French DoW on Italy isn't that good for US entry.
If it's an oil game and the USSR has STRAT air force within reach of the Ploesti oilfields, the answer is always: yes. Otherwise: do you want another front where you need German units to fight? I don't think so.
On Jutland: stack the CW units, or otherwise they run the risk of being destroyed. Having single stacks is a bad idea when on defense.
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:24 am
by Centuur
ORIGINAL: Orm
ORIGINAL: Centuur
Sure, you can bottle them up. But it will need at least 4 reasonable good units to do so and they need to be backed up by the Luftwaffe with ground support availability. This is because the CW has all those large shiney BB's ready to start giving shore bombardment to make things very bad for the Germans.
Imagine the London MIL arriving in Denmark and a stack decides to attack a single German INF. CW puts in the BB's and there is a juicy 4-1 or even 5-1 if there isn't a German bomber to provide ground support.
And it gets even more difficult to contain the CW there, when the RAF gets a shiney Hurricane or Spitfire into Denmark too. Then Germany needs Me-109's too...
No, you've made a mistake, and the CW should exploit it. No waiting on what the enemy does first! They should be punished for conquering Poland and invading Denmark. Those countries are betrayed and the British Empire comes to the rescue.
And the nicest thing is: if Germany starts flying the Stuka's into Denmark to attack the CW there, the CW simply pick up the expensive units (like the HQ and the MECH) and leave the MIL to get slaughtered. And it's going to be winter too...
So put 4 units into Denmark by the CW and let Germany handle this...
Oh: and I forget the best part of this: the CW can just decide to leave the units in Denmark doing absolutely nothing but tying up German units by simply being there...
What if Germany abandon the Jutland Peninsula altogether for now? Just defending the German border and Zealand (with Copenhagen). More CW units in Jutland means less units in Belgium and France. Should be time enough to clear that mess up after the fall of France and before USSR and USA has entered the war.
German, and possibly Italian, naval bombers (with escorts based in Zealand) could make Fredirikshavn a dangerous port for CW.
A lot of this is true. However, it is not as easy to control the North Sea by Germany with the NAV's (not even if the Italian one comes into the area too). Also: why should the CW advance to the Danish-German border? Frederikshavn makes a nice airport for a NAV to start attacking German shipping in the Baltic...
Personally, I believe it is better to have the Germans react to something the CW has done, than to wait untill the hammer falls in France.
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:55 am
by composer99
Re: France vs. Italy
Don't bother declaring war with France at the moment, IMO. Search rolls are too variable to guarantee smacking down the Italian fleet.
Re; Bessarabia
If you're playing with oil allow the claim, full stop.
If you're not playing with oil, I still would allow the claim if it were me, but think through what the USSR can do, first.
(3 resources is a lot to give up at this stage of the game.)
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:46 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: rkr1958
ORIGINAL: rkr1958
Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #5. End of Impulse.
So, should the French DOW Italy?
Also, the
Soviets will claim Bessarabia this next impulse. Should the Germans allow the claim?
If France DOW Italy then I would deny the claim. There are not enough US markers in the pools for both declarations of war so keeping US out of the war is worth the cost of losing Romania.
If France play it cool then I would allow the Soviet demands. USSR has enough forces on the border to continue a war against Romania and would soon conquer them.
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:15 pm
by rkr1958
ORIGINAL: Centuur
On Jutland: stack the CW units, or otherwise they run the risk of being destroyed. Having single stacks is a bad idea when on defense.
Peter, Right now I have a stack of 3 units in Jutland blocking the Brits. Are you saying that I need two stacks of multiple units there? Or, is a single stack of multiple units good enough?
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:17 pm
by rkr1958
So the consensus appears to be:
Should the French DOW Italy? NO
The Soviets will claim Bessarabia this next impulse. Should the Germans allow the claim? YES
And that's what I'll do.
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:51 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: rkr1958
ORIGINAL: Centuur
On Jutland: stack the CW units, or otherwise they run the risk of being destroyed. Having single stacks is a bad idea when on defense.
Peter, Right now I have a stack of 3 units in Jutland blocking the Brits. Are you saying that I need two stacks of multiple units there? Or, is a single stack of multiple units good enough?
I think he commented on the CW units and not the German forces.
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:47 pm
by rkr1958
ORIGINAL: Orm
ORIGINAL: rkr1958
ORIGINAL: Centuur
On Jutland: stack the CW units, or otherwise they run the risk of being destroyed. Having single stacks is a bad idea when on defense.
Peter, Right now I have a stack of 3 units in Jutland blocking the Brits. Are you saying that I need two stacks of multiple units there? Or, is a single stack of multiple units good enough?
I think he commented on the CW units and not the German forces.
Got it and taken care of (mostly) as you shall soon see.
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:05 pm
by rkr1958
ORIGINAL: Orm
Is Japan letting China use sea supply?!
Orm, So I used the form to trace the supply to the Chinese 2-4 cavalry corps. It's supply route is using sea supply. Though I'm not sure what Japan can do about it? I assume it's the CW and French ships in the China and South China Seas that are supplying this unit.
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:06 pm
by rkr1958
Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #6. Nationalist Chinese.
RE: Historical Global War AAR #2
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:07 pm
by rkr1958
Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #6. communist Chinese.
